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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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You're running the same team as me! Should really try to play with his Cent Rush assist since it's an overhead. Having an unblockable setup with it is really nice, but you have to kind of learn how to use it well since it's pretty slow at coming out.
shaowebb
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Guh...finished finals. 19 pages of stats, standard deviations and variance formulas out the yin yang and a ton of stuff. My eyes feel like their bleeding...
Please God someone tell me somekind of cool news about this game. Anyone of note using Iron Fist yet besides Justin Wong? Also who is Combofiend using now? Anything to perk me up...
Please God someone tell me somekind of cool news about this game. Anyone of note using Iron Fist yet besides Justin Wong? Also who is Combofiend using now? Anything to perk me up...
People have been saying combofiend is using Nova/Spencer/Hawkeye now, though I've seen no direct evidence of it yet.
I saw Genghis get second place at the box arena tourney today, losing only to DiosX, and he used Iron Fist on point. Congrats on finishing finals man.
Red Arremer
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Nova's best assist is Nova Strike (the overhead, I believe it might also OTG - not sure - but I know it ground bounces if it catches the enemy from the air). Centurion Rush is OK, and Gravimetric Pulse is only good if you take care, cause it'll drain Nova's red life even as an assist.
As for Hawkeye, all of his assists are good. Violent Fizz hits OTG and poisons, but I made the experience it's somewhat easy to punish. Triple Shot (Greyhound is its name I believe) is really good as well, I don't have to explain it anyway cause well you use it LOL. The last one is the one that's like faster Hidden Missiles. Since you use Vergil, you can use it to lock your opponent down while you are approaching them.
Nova's best assist is easily Centurion Rush. A ground bounce and an overhead. The Gravimetric Pulse assist is only good on zoning teams and even then you have to be super careful about using it meaning it's half assed because you are sacrificing red health for just a meatier shield. Nova Strike is a wall bounce combo extender at best, not really super high priority... Iron Fist Dragon Fang gets the job done better.
NEC teams was crazy. Salt was EVERYWHERE, tons of blow ups, big names got bodied, grand finals was epic and tense, people actually were exhausted due to over hype. Tons of character variety and technology seen.
RyRy is using Iron Fist although it seems like an assist character really. There was something crazy learned about Iron Fist at the tournament and it's that his st.H passes over (or through) crouching characters who have a short hit box. It's worth looking into because it decided a match.
NEC teams was crazy. Salt was EVERYWHERE, tons of blow ups, big names got bodied, grand finals was epic and tense, people actually were exhausted due to over hype. Tons of character variety and technology seen.
Red Arremer
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If by "character variety" you mean "everyone played Wesker", then you are correct.
Also, you're mixing Nova Strike with Centurion Rush. Nova Strike is that one where he comes diagonally from above, Centurion Rush is the one where he dashes forward.
Also, you're mixing Nova Strike with Centurion Rush. Nova Strike is that one where he comes diagonally from above, Centurion Rush is the one where he dashes forward.
Were we watching the same top 3? Because Wesker wasn't even the most used character, out of the 3 teams there were only 2 Weskers entirely and ChrisG switching to Wesker at the end so a total of 3. Those 3 teams had more Magnetos than Weskers. I had the character usage stats in the NEC thread. The rest of the top 3 is split very evenly across 30 characters. I am not even concerned what the lower end of teams rankings had, I am sure there were a ton of Weskers but all were terrible and got bodied hard.
People noticed Wesker being used because of the over hype around him. Everytime someone had Wesker at anchor it was like the commentators and everyone else had to point it out with a loud speaker that Wesker was on deck. When Wesker beat even one character at the end people felt the need to yell out "DARK WESKER RISING". The top 3 had more Sentinel match finishers than Wesker... true story.
Posting it here in case people missed it (this is top 3 teams for UMVC3 at NEC so this is character spread across 9 players)
Magneto: 3
Wesker: 3* (ChrisG changed to Wesker for final set, it was 2 before that set)
Akuma: 2
Sentinel: 2
Ryu: 2
Zero: 1
Dormammu: 1
Amaterasu: 1
X-23: 1
Dante: 1
Hawkeye: 1
Firebrand: 1*
Felicia: 1
Super Skrull: 1
Taskmaster: 1
Deadpool: 1
Vergil: 1
Nova: 1
Iron Fist: 1
C Viper: 1
Nemesis: 1
Magneto: 3
Wesker: 3* (ChrisG changed to Wesker for final set, it was 2 before that set)
Akuma: 2
Sentinel: 2
Ryu: 2
Zero: 1
Dormammu: 1
Amaterasu: 1
X-23: 1
Dante: 1
Hawkeye: 1
Firebrand: 1*
Felicia: 1
Super Skrull: 1
Taskmaster: 1
Deadpool: 1
Vergil: 1
Nova: 1
Iron Fist: 1
C Viper: 1
Nemesis: 1
well, the disheartening fact is that ChrisG switched to Wesker, acknowledging that the character is stupid right now instead of sticking with the team he brought with him. he feels too much like people just throwing in Phoenix and auto winning.
His team was doing fine and he was bodying people with it. He got beat by an anchor Wesker and got salty over it so he put him in his team as a clutch.
Meh oh well.
scytheavatar
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Wesker is essential for ChrisG playstyle, he needs the OTG to do max damage off Ryu's air throws and having a fundamental, fish for punishing character as an anchor is much more fitting for him than a zoning character like Hawkeye. His Ryu/Firebrand/Hawkeye team was never going to work on the long run, that had 3 characters that need meter to be at their best and I think he was always going to have to choose between Ryu or Firebrand in a team. And in the end he choose Ryu.
I kindna wish he would pick up Morrigan, he is a big fan of her and I liked his Morrigan when he played her in Big 2 vs RayRay.
scytheavatar
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I do know that Tokido is playing Magneto/Doom/Phoenix now...
honestly, it was more like everyone was playing too brain dead to get a beam assist to deal with nemesis+drones, which when you look back on it, would solve every problem.
ChrisG using Tatsu to get in against that did not work at all.
ChrisG shut down Nemesis and Drones with Hawkeye alone. The match up looked free. It was only when ChrisG actually went IN and tried to grab Nemesis but got scooped up by the anti-air command grab. His matches against "Unknown" were lost due to Wesker bullshittery which is what made him switch to Wesker in the first place.
But I do agree with the former, other people just didn't realize that a team of 3 point characters like Spencer/Wolverine/Wesker isn't going to get you past Nemesis + Drones individually. And then said people have a salty breakdown or some shit.
Pretty much.
Interesting. Surprisingly not that cheap of a team.
Red Arremer
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Speaking of Marn, what's up with that jail meme the stream monsters have been posting all the time?
scytheavatar
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29095487&postcount=5
CTRL-F Marn is in jail. TL
R is that the entire fighting game community hates Marn and want to troll him.QisTopTier
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My god Anchor Arthur is so fucking retarded now. Almost on par with xfactor 3 felicia now. *almost not quite there* Top it off with firebrand and arthur actually HELPING EACH OTHER A GREAT DEAL and lulz I wonder if Seth had something to do with that. You literally cant press a button or call an assist or the match is practically over.
Red Arremer
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29095487&postcount=5
CTRL-F Marn is in jail. TL
Ah, cool post, thanks.
corrosivefrost
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Everyone should be fortunate enough to thank Eighting for restraining Wesker. If people are salty now, just imagine what they would do if Wesker had an "Ouroboros release" mode where he turns into or harnesses the form at the end of RE5? If you thought he was a pain in the ass now...
QisTopTier
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Hmm seems arthur has a short loop with S, j.M, j.H, into AXE but it's fucking stupidly strict, probably a 1 framer
Killa Sasa
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Haha glad I'm not the only one who realizes this. Arthur was always a better anchor than people gave him credit for, and the system changes + his buffs make him even scarier. If he activates XF after you and has gold armour at the anchor position, one Lance = your death. Chip, Hit, or as a blockstring to time you out.
QisTopTier
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Incorrect you can push block then jump out of it. I don't know how that works but it works.
Reasons why anchor arthur is stupid.
You press a button or summon an assist and he has 3 meter. You just lost up to 2 characters.
You try to attack him and he has 1 bar and xfactor you just lose your character because gold armor heavenly slash has srk properties and can loop with itself for up to 1.4 million damage. Gold armor has invincibility frames on it as well, I use it to dodge gimlet all the time.
Any random bad button press full screen into a lance.
Running isn't really possible cause he can dash with his j.S VERY VERY FAST into 50/50 mix ups once he is in. which leads to heavenly slash loops.
Super jumping isnt really a good idea cause he can just super jump up with you and throw a lance and lock you into that place as you fall back straight down.
sonicspear64
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No he had it right. Human Rocket Punch (Nova Strike M) goes forward and Centurion Rush M goes down forward from above. Funny thing is that there's a typo in the guide. It says Centurion Rush L instead of Nova Strike in the table with assists. If only Nova had that assist. It would probably be the best low assist in the game.
strider is so weird to play. his assist is amazing, but you don't want him as anchor b/c he just can't handle anchors who can out zone him. and he really isn't made to punish people with meter, you need to stay on top of where you are positionally and the screen and hopefully punish accordingly.
his meter use is either-> dump it into ouroboros if you've got a favorable matchup or save it all for combo enders.
his meter use is either-> dump it into ouroboros if you've got a favorable matchup or save it all for combo enders.
Red Arremer
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This is how Wesker's sunglasses should work imo:
LeMaximilian
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Ultimate Assist Me Outtakes - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCgFLK3lGg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCgFLK3lGg
Hold on a second, did you guys just say Arthur is a good anchor in Ultimate? Very interesting, I like Arthur, from a pure fanboy perspective. Played so much Ghost and Goblins on my C64, even got to level 2, when I was younger. If Arthur is good in this game, I pretty much have to try him out now. The knives are a fun assist, anyway.
Do you start with him on point to get him gold, or do you just leave him meter, so he can do it himself when anchoring?
Do you start with him on point to get him gold, or do you just leave him meter, so he can do it himself when anchoring?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What's up with flood of Firebrand today online?
Edited: NVM he was in winner team for 3 vs 3 in tournament scene.
Edited: NVM he was in winner team for 3 vs 3 in tournament scene.
sixteen-bit
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He chills in the shadows, treat him like DP
Will do, just as soon as I'm done with Zelda. It's been really bad for my Marvel that it released on the day of Zelda... Now I just got to find a middleman for my "with Arthur" team. Felicia/???/Arthur. Captain America is a possibility, but I think I need to keep that slot open to ideas. Don't need anyone with more difficult execution than Felicia on the team, though. One is enough.
sixteen-bit
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Self defense class for Marvel players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt08Xtn9x9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt08Xtn9x9o
I put him on point. If he's against a character who has difficulty against zoning, Hulk for example, he can hold his own for a good while, then use Gold Armor and switch out. If he's against a good rushdown character, use Gold Armor as soon as you can and switch out. You'll get an even better assist during the fight that way, and Arthur will be ready to use XF3 immediately when he comes out.
Using him as an anchor is probably safer, but you won't get a better assist.
Karsticles
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Update on my own team:
My favorite point characters are presently Phoenix, Skull, and Akuma. I'm surprised at how well Akuma works, because his new aerial demon flip auto-corrects for fireballs, so I can really mess with people.
My favorite point characters are presently Phoenix, Skull, and Akuma. I'm surprised at how well Akuma works, because his new aerial demon flip auto-corrects for fireballs, so I can really mess with people.
Ah. Well, I tend to go by ratios. Hawkeye has a maximum number of 3 things to say during a match in terms of win/intro quotes. When 2/3 of those are about being married, I count that as "a lot".
Oh sure, there's definitely yomi in everything, but I like characters that are based off it.
If you ever want to actually read what I wrote, let me know and we can keep talking about this.
Ah that sounds about right. It's a gamble to have him on point, but it could pay off. So... I just have to use the "Hold A1 or A2 to swap your point with that assist" trick to swap Arthur in if the opponent is a good matchup for him? The game starts before the "FIGHT!" sound, after all.
I was going to get the "Don't switch or call assists" achievement in ranked...then the guy rage quit.
EDIT: Fought another beginner, managed to get it! I hope I didn't frustrate them too much.
EDIT: Fought another beginner, managed to get it!
I hope I didn't frustrate them too much.You could do that I guess. If you're not gonna use Gold Armor before switching, just put him as anchor.
QisTopTier
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This is such a huge ass waste though, one of the best things about gold armor is that he is invincible during the activation, using it to swap out after and not guarantee a kill is iffy.
Gold armor daggers are not THAT much up of an upgrade over regular ones, and fire is only good for so many characters. If he is using the kitty regular daggers is way more than enough for her to rip through teams.
Listen to him McNum, he's better than me
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