this is amazing, though they should replace nerdjosh with pr rog: http://shoryuken.com/2011/12/05/ultimate-mvc3-1000-showmatch-2-saturday-700-pm-et/
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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LOL @ that pic of Marlin Pie.
You stole my post! LOL
This is cool. I'll just use Spider-Man's black alt, fill my H&H deck with three Black Panther cards, and pretend.
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.....Will it ever stop hurting guys? :'(
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Quote for a new page because it's free stuff.
Professor Beef
Banned
Cross-posting from the NEC thread, but adding some more notes, too. I've tested this with Wesker, Ryu, and Wolverine on a single team. When I try to DHC out of Maximum Wesker with a QCF super, I consistently get Ryu/Wolverine's level 3 supers. However, if I do the same thing but start with Wolverine or Ryu and DHC into Wolvy/Ryu, I get what I want. I'm not waiting any longer after the flash, I'm not holding directions/buttons. I really have no idea what is going on here.
SolarPowered
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Hawkeye is a much better fit. Black Panther would've been too similar to Taskmaster.
sorry bro
Saved for Pringles edition.
Ya'll ain't listening!
MarlinPie and Josh are going to be pot monsters. Even though I want MarlinPie to take it all, he's not ready yet and is still trying to get away with year-long combos.
sixteen-bit
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Then the clear solution is to take Taskmaster's bitch ass out the game.
UMvC3: Wakanda Edition. Holla at me, Capcom. I got another $40 with your name on it, brahs.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah I was gonna say. That's not how time works.
I approve.
Does a tiger knee motion fix the issue?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Couldn't you do like a HCF motion to mitigate that?
Parallax Scroll
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It seems like a TK motion for the first super may fix it, but you need to be careful not to let the stick pass through Forward on its way back to neutral. I need to test it some more to be sure.
For the second super, nope. You can even do a 360 motion for the second super and you'll still get the dragon punch super.
Professor Beef
Banned
This is a pretty funky oversight on Capcom's part. It seems that Wesker really does need a patch, but for more than just his sunglasses. It seems that if you try to DHC immediately out of Maximum Wesker, the next character will do their SRK-motion super. I've been testing it now for the past 10+ minutes with various characters. I didn't have trouble DHCing into QCF-motion supers if they didn't involve Wesker, but if he starts the chain, it fucks everything up.
Can anyone else test it? I know Parallax Scroll has been working on it, but I would like to hear from others as well.
Can anyone else test it? I know Parallax Scroll has been working on it, but I would like to hear from others as well.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Also it's the games stupid input system.
Professor Beef
Banned
The input system in this game is nowhere near SSFIV. I know my inputs, and there is definitely something wrong with Wesker starting a DHC.
EDIT: If you wait until Wesker starts zipping around, then there is no problems. I should've stated that earlier.
can you write that apology letter to Chris G for ever doubting him now
I bought the Season's Beating and it was incredible, great quality. I wish they would release all the tournaments like that and I would buy it all without a second thought.
Professor Beef
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I need to find the right "i'm sowwy" emoticon to include in my letter first.
to be fair, you're saying that characters with derp safe block strings are good for the game and shouldn't be taken out, which isn't exactly smart.
QisTopTier
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I don't think some of you understood what I ment when I said Chris G plays Marvel like Guilty Gear, it's a huge ass complement. He's only going to get better, and yes Ultimate has some fucking messed up input issues on some stuff I notice it from time to time.
watching you mash and getting two hypers simultaneously never gets old q!
QisTopTier
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LOL that DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE. Do hyper, let go of dpad, mash, DHC! how does that even work. it's off a single motion too!
Oh no. My problem with Taskmaster is not that I think he's bs to play against. Of the higher tiers, he's my favorite in that regard. My problem is that apparently, his presence is the only thing preventing me from playing as Black Panther. As such, fuck him.
lolProfessor Beef
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To be fair, my ASW bias makes me see anything ASW-related as an insult.
Parallax Scroll
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OK, here are my own conclusions based on testing Phantom Dance -> Shinkuu Hadoken DHC in training mode with input display on, Xbox version of UMVC3, using a TE stick with stock parts.
- If you're holding a direction when the super flash for Phantom Dance starts, that direction will stay in the input buffer.
- If that direction was Towards, and you input a QCF super during the super flash, you will always get a dragon punch super instead if there's enough meter.
- If you're holding a direction other than Towards when the super flash starts, or the stick is in neutral, you'll be able to do Ryu's QCF super normally.
- I've found 2 ways to consistently get Shinkuu Hadoken:
Option 1: Do Phantom Dance with a tiger knee motion. Watch the input display. As long as the up-forward (or any direction other than forward) is the final direction before the super flash, you can do the Shinkuu Hadoken normally.
Option 2: Instead of doing Phantom Dance as 236+PP, do it as 2365+PP. As in, let the stick return to neutral before you push PP. This way Ryu can come in with no directions already buffered.
- If you're holding a direction when the super flash for Phantom Dance starts, that direction will stay in the input buffer.
- If that direction was Towards, and you input a QCF super during the super flash, you will always get a dragon punch super instead if there's enough meter.
- If you're holding a direction other than Towards when the super flash starts, or the stick is in neutral, you'll be able to do Ryu's QCF super normally.
- I've found 2 ways to consistently get Shinkuu Hadoken:
Option 1: Do Phantom Dance with a tiger knee motion. Watch the input display. As long as the up-forward (or any direction other than forward) is the final direction before the super flash, you can do the Shinkuu Hadoken normally.
Option 2: Instead of doing Phantom Dance as 236+PP, do it as 2365+PP. As in, let the stick return to neutral before you push PP. This way Ryu can come in with no directions already buffered.
The inputs issues exist in Vanilla too, sometime you'd end up doing a SRK Super with Akuma instead of the Hadoken one and it was a pain in the ass to burn your X Factor just to save Akuma.
Apparently this thread in Shoryuken has the solution(s) for the DHC input problem.
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/gimlet-dhc-input-bug.149514/#post-6148852
Apparently this thread in Shoryuken has the solution(s) for the DHC input problem.
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/gimlet-dhc-input-bug.149514/#post-6148852
Parallax Scroll
Banned
That thread has a lot of useful info, but the posters in the thread can't agree on all the specifics, and they're too busy calling each other idiots with bad execution to reach any kind of consensus.
at least we know on gaf that people don't have bad execution, they're just bad in general, amirite?
Professor Beef
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Letting go of the direction is the safest thing for me, since I'm awful at TKing. Hawkeye also has the same problem as Wesker.
I'm guessing nobody really noticed this since 1) everyone uses Wesker as an anchor, and 2) nobody has enough meter to botch a level 3.
Sounds like the internet to me!
Is there an SD link to this? 3.6 Gigs is way too much for me to download.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Speak for yourself. Oh wait, you probably already were.
OOOOOOOO
Well there's the stream archived version. But that doesn't have the miced up players. Or the player cam.
giancarlo123x
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That explained a lot about my wesker dhc. I thought it was me making mistakes but it wasn't whole time. Sometime I activated Phantom Dance and I tried go into dhc and it didn't activate because I never had 3 bars for "strange input errors" to activate level 3 so I failed with dhc.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
What's important to remember is that you don't need to be holding Forward for a long-ass time for this "glitch" to occur. Just doing qcf+PP and immediately letting go of the stick is usually still "holding" Forward for too long. I had to intentionally delay the PP for Wesker's super in order to prevent the "glitch."
This is particularly hard to test because input display doesn't show when you returned the stick to neutral.
This is particularly hard to test because input display doesn't show when you returned the stick to neutral.
Professor Beef
Banned
As long as Wesker can be used as an anchor, nobody will see this problem, mirite? DON'T NERF GLASSES!
Parallax Scroll
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It applies to other characters/supers as well. Someone claimed that the number of frames on the super before the flash is a factor.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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OMG Nova's energy javelin was destroying my Phoenix Wright. Most of the time I can just sit back and carefully block and push to collect my evidence and keep people off of me with Hulk's Gamma Charge Up assist and knock people away with Ryu's hurricane kick. This one move was destroying my team. I like this team and don't wanna change it just yet. Any tips?
Professor Beef
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Yeah I read that, I was just joking around.
Stand inside Maya's barrier instead of behind it.
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