Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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Thanks, I'll try that.
FindMyFarms
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Anyone down for games? I'm on PSN right now, tag is same as here.
Parallax Scroll
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What changed about Wesker in ultimate that makes this possible now?
Karsticles
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I see you lurking GB! At first I had to laugh - Felicia? How can that work? Then I kept thinking about it, and it makes a weird kind of sense. I'll give it a shot, but I'm skeptical just because Felicia has never really clicked for me. It's like Zero. Last night I spent an hour trying to do a Zero combo, and I JUST CANT DO IT. His lightning strike just seems like an RDP move to me, so I always input RDP instead of DP. And Rekkoha looks like Captain Corridor to me, so I'm always doing QCB instead of QCF. I must look like one of the cockiest Zero players ever, since I end all my combos in Sougenmu.
Also, C. Viper has the same unblockable snap-in setups Firebrand does, and I can build more than a bar every time for net meter gain while I slaughter a team. 'Tis fun! The execution requirement is much higher, since I have to snap, dash back, call Dark Hole, dash forward, Focus Attack all very quickly.
FUCK YES!!!!!!
Why do you think Albert changes are coming? I love that we're calling him Albert now. =D
Yeah, he can juggle an assist forever with it. A Nemesis hit my Morrigan once, and I was blocking for a few seconds with Dormammu trying to feel out the timing of the move, and then I noticed Morrigan was like 90% dead - d'oh!
BlazBlue...
They made Wesker's Cobra Strike teleport cancelable. You couldn't do that in Vanilla.
Parallax Scroll
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Ah, I see. I should really start using that.
I'll be salty. I hope they learned their lesson from the knee-jerk sentinel patch....
Unconditional
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I think they just need to remove that glasses buff. dumbest thing ever.
if they learned their lesson, they would actually nerf someone who needs to be nerfed
loooooooooool
ihearthawthats
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what lesson was that? if sent's 910k hp in vanilla was too low, they could've raised it back for ultimate. instead it turns out that it needed to be lowered even moreso along with a few other nerfs.
Make him anchor, use x-factor and faceroll some buttons after using Ouroborous or however the fuck it's spelled!
^Which many people think was a not so smart balance change. Due to his size, sentinel has a lot of bad matchups. At high levels, more HP would actually help him stay viable.
In regards to the Wesker shades, like I said I cannot see any significant difference with them on or off -- I really wouldn't care if they nerfed that and left everything else alone.
Still searching for a main team. Currently running Nem/Deadpool/Spencer. Took Thor off of this team but now I don't have cover for Nemesis as I'm using quick work assist with deadpool. Although that plus tentacle reach makes the opponent have to guess which one to block. It's been working in ranked matches for me so far so I'll keep at it.
ihearthawthats
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sure it would help him stay viable. but where does that leave the other big characters like thor and hulk who are seen to have even less tools?
I would say that hulk is pretty damn good right now. Especially with his GTFO 1 hit of armor assist. Thor got buffed...but he's still Thor.
ihearthawthats
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definitely, but thats what i mean. with the sent nerfs, the big characters are a lot closer now in terms of tiers. i'd be cool with an even 1mil sent but if i had to choose between the 2, i'd much prefer 900k sent over 1.3mil sent.
Just sounds like something knee jerk Capcom would do. I don't expect it, I just said the salt from it would be delicious. There are people who think Wesker should just stay the same, glasses and all.
If Capcom does do something it will probably be something stupid like shave off 150K health from him. That's Capcom's mantra when it comes to balancing apparently. IDEALLY they should just act like the glasses "mechanic" was a bug and remove it completely. No one is going to complain or lose sleep over it.
He couldn't teleport cancel his Cobra Strike before. It was pretty weird that the move was excluded since he could do it off of Ghost Butterfly and all his gun shots. It makes doing his BnBs a lot easier... not that people even DO BnBs with Wesker outside the people who have been playing Wesker since day 1 Vanilla (ie. ChrisG).
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I think they won't touch the glasses mechanic even though it's the dumbest new change. I think they were genuinely enthused with that idea, and his character portrait with the half broken glasses reflects that.
Exactly. Like I said on the previous page, the herp derp combos for Wesker are a strategic decision (at least for me). With assists he can take a character from one corner to the other usuing the herb derp combos. With his swag combos, hit stun scaling prevents optimum positioning for the resets.
The half-broken glasses showed in his vanilla portrait, too.
I don't notice the extra damage if *I* take the glasses off. I do if they're knocked off, though, as it's basically an extra 100k tacked on to my BnB I do with him that Dahbomb laughed at pre-hyper.
He doesn't even need assists to go from one end to the other. Assists just help make sure he's in prime phantom dance territory.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Like Wesker!! haha. He's not an IOH waiting to happen like Sent.
BTW, Fubar posted this in the comments of the SRK article about the throw breaking bug:
"Unfortunately, you are not going to be happy with what else they considered a "glitch""
He was quoting somebody talking about Wright in regards to wanting to have to get 5 instead of 3 pieces of evidence.
What do you mean Fubar!!! Answer us for Kadey!
Maybe they will change the HUD too a little? Since they listen to their fans alot and all that jazz.
Yeah, extended ground combos with Wesker create too much hitstun scaling for certain relaunches. I usually go for the extended ground ones anyway and then forego the relaunch, but there's no real reason to.
Oh shit here begins the carnival of stupid."Unfortunately, you are not going to be happy with what else they considered a "glitch"
*Prays for Wesker sunglasses being a glitch*
Spencer's Wire grapples could be the other thing they forgot to patch.
That's not true. Using Cobra Strike and Ghost Butterfly guarantees that I bring the opponent close enough to the corner before even doing a launch. After the launch I just call an assist, do low gun shot and tap the opponent with st.L to go into the rest situation. I can relaunch from here too but I wouldn't get more than a couple more hits in the air before they drop off so this is where it's best to just either do a reset or use meter.
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Professor Beef
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what if they gave footdive to hsien-ko
you would be dancing naked in the streets, that's what
Foot dive on Hsien Ko would be a waste of a tool. She can't self OTG into a full combo like Doom can. It would just be a nuisance although at least she can drop to the ground quicker like Arthur can. A dive kick that caused stagger or aerial ground bounce on the other hand would be much better.
I honestly don't know what to expect with the patch. I just hope it's something reasonable and not "LOL Capcom" bad.
I honestly don't know what to expect with the patch. I just hope it's something reasonable and not "LOL Capcom" bad.
I was thinking more along the lines of removing Doom's stupid S. divekick in general, and then giving Hsienko a ground bouncing/counterhit stagger divekick.
I imagine that he patch will be as Bizazedo said... the removal of invincibility from much of Wright's assists.
Why would they nerf a low tier non-tournament character?
I am now accustomed to Doom. The dive kick is retarded but at least he does have a retarded tool to abuse. It keeps characters like him competitive. I wished Iron Man had something similar. His Knee Dive from MVC2 which if caused an aerial ground bounce or stagger would make him 10 times more used in tournaments.
I am now accustomed to Doom. The dive kick is retarded but at least he does have a retarded tool to abuse. It keeps characters like him competitive. I wished Iron Man had something similar. His Knee Dive from MVC2 which if caused an aerial ground bounce or stagger would make him 10 times more used in tournaments.
Professor Beef
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With Hsien-Ko getting footdive, or Solar naked?
Ugh, that would be awful.
Sentinel is not a low tier, non-tournament character. Just the fact that his assist is still S tier and his DHC is safe/strong and persists after activation makes him a B tier character. The fact that he does solid damage and has limbs that need to be respected means he is B+. You will keep seeing Sentinel being used in tournaments as long as this game gets played, at the bare minimum as an assist and people will still get hit by the odd frying pan for the match wins.
Phoenix Wright is garbage and taking out the invincible assists would make him the worst character in the game... far below Hsien Ko.
Phoenix Wright is garbage and taking out the invincible assists would make him the worst character in the game... far below Hsien Ko.
I am not a fan of using Ghost Butterfy midscreen... I like using Jaguar Kicks in combos for the extra oomph.
Though you've said yourself that Capcom takes casual level balancing into account. Casuals don't know how to deal with Turnabout Phoenix Wright. I can see Capcom reducing the invincibility. That's the only thing that I can imagine a "glitch" with Wright.
Maybe chaining evidence gathering? Or hiding inside Maya shield? I don't know what else it could be.
Or maybe we're on the wrong track and fubarduck was referring to something else entirely.
I fought some dude in Ranked using Ace Attorney as a point character vs my Wesker lol... Poor guy, the guy got 3 pieces of evidence and had a pixel of health. He actually hit my assist and got into turnabout mode only to immediately get shot by Wesker's gun and die... poor SOB.
Well, it's just a rumor.
Buuut, if y'do know how to use him and have the proper DHC's / THC's to keep him safe, he stomps casuals into the dirt.
Why? They do less damage (I thought?).
Buuut, if y'do know how to use him and have the proper DHC's / THC's to keep him safe, he stomps casuals into the dirt.
Why? They do less damage (I thought?).
Gunstarheroes
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I'll be salty as shit as one of the very few good things about one of my characters getting nerfed and fucking Wesker and bullshit exists. If they fuck over more of my characters in this patch without nerfing the ones that need it, i may ragequit.
Nah, I don't think so. I've only faced a few Wrights online. I just think that people have problems dealing with his fully invincible assist (even though it can technically be hit).
I use him sometimes because I really adore the character. Based on my limited Player Matches, a lot of people don't know what to do when Phoenix reaches Turnabout.
Yeah, I never use Jaguar Kick because of how it effects damage scaling. It might depend on the combo, though.
I'll have to look into that... maybe I will use Cobra Strike instead. I was usuing Jaguar Kick because it did not seem to impact hitstun deterioration too much and pushed opponents a bit toward the corner.
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