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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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its nobody in the trenchcoat mafia.
no need to guess its dormammu. i generally just hate him because he is such a great counter to my zoning. i don't think he is that broken though. only thing i don't like is his life. i don't think any teleport character should have 1 mil life. 900k should be the highest they get. i don't understand how capcom thinks strider and rocket deserve such low health when characters like wesker and dormammu who have just as many great tools deserve such high health. rocket and strider should get 800k health.
Noel does not know how to deal with this Chris match up at ALL.
Neither do I really.
I think Dorm's fine with the high life total because he's absolutely massive. Same reason Sentinel could probably use a little more HP. Wesker's probably 50-100K too high, and I totally agree re: Strider/Rocket- the 750 club (including Akuma) should probably all be bumped to 800K.
Mr Touchdown
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Akuma can stay right where he is
Strider needs more damage or health... Pick one Capcom.
Rocket needs more health.
Also Nova, Vergil, Skrull... That team is fun.
sixteen-bit
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So Noel didn't quit Marvel afterall?
Glad to see it's not just me sucking at fighting Spencer (though that's definitely part of it). Spencer is the fucking derpiest of the derp and I can't fucking stand him. Brain-dead magic series combos that deal dumb damage, up grapple, near half-screen overhead that confirms into said combos and cancelable via Armor Piercer on block for mixups, dumb health, easy approach options - that restrict his opponent's mobility, a j.S that covers the entire bottom half of his body, restricting an opponent's mixups when he's airborne, Bionic Arm etc.
I'm WAY more hateful of this character than Wesker. Spencer is a better Wesker IMO. He gets in whenever he wants, however he wants, and runs mixups for days with Command Grab/Overhead/cr.L/Armor Piercer. Shit's even worse when he's in X-Factor, because Overhead to Cr. L becomes a frame trap (I think, in any case, he can confirm into cr. L on hit). As Viscant says, people outside Combofiend don't hold back with him because even without a projectile Assist, getting in is relatively free.
My training partner plays Spencer on Anchor. Last night I consistently plowed through his first two characters (Wesker/Nova/Hawkeye/Jill in variation) and had my entire team run-through by XFL 3 Spencer. Final score of the night was like 45 - 18, him, and a good 60-65% of my losses were due to not being able to handle Spencer at the end.
So fucking salty.
I'm WAY more hateful of this character than Wesker. Spencer is a better Wesker IMO. He gets in whenever he wants, however he wants, and runs mixups for days with Command Grab/Overhead/cr.L/Armor Piercer. Shit's even worse when he's in X-Factor, because Overhead to Cr. L becomes a frame trap (I think, in any case, he can confirm into cr. L on hit). As Viscant says, people outside Combofiend don't hold back with him because even without a projectile Assist, getting in is relatively free.
My training partner plays Spencer on Anchor. Last night I consistently plowed through his first two characters (Wesker/Nova/Hawkeye/Jill in variation) and had my entire team run-through by XFL 3 Spencer. Final score of the night was like 45 - 18, him, and a good 60-65% of my losses were due to not being able to handle Spencer at the end.
So fucking salty.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't think I've hit a Rhino Charge once in Ultimate.
Sir Garbageman
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I hate fighting Spencer too, does so much freaking damage.
Anyway, looking to potentially mix up my team. Currently going with She-Hulk / Task / Ryu. Thinking about replacing Ryu at anchor with a new character. Anyone have any suggestions? Preferably someone with decent health and not too execution heavy (online pad warrior).
The most likely suspects seem to be Doom, Dorm, Spencer, Sent and Wesker.
Thanks.
Anyway, looking to potentially mix up my team. Currently going with She-Hulk / Task / Ryu. Thinking about replacing Ryu at anchor with a new character. Anyone have any suggestions? Preferably someone with decent health and not too execution heavy (online pad warrior).
The most likely suspects seem to be Doom, Dorm, Spencer, Sent and Wesker.
Thanks.
"God's Beard!"
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Spencerrrrrrrr <3
He plays like Wesker+Magneto with a punish hyper, and my other two characters are Wesker and Magneto lol
He plays like Wesker+Magneto with a punish hyper, and my other two characters are Wesker and Magneto lol
sixteen-bit
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I don't understand how it could be secret in the internet age.
In this internet era yeah things get exposed more quickly but not instantaneously. The quicksilver glitch came out at the end of vanilla iirc.
"God's Beard!"
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I think you quoted the wrong person? And the spiderman thing isn't useless. I saw Killa Sasa do it on Filipino Champ.
yeah i did, my bad
sixteen-bit
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I'm glad you've seen the light.
"God's Beard!"
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I'm so sorry for doubting Threi.
I agree with Viscant that teleporters generally can make Ghost Rider their bitch, with the exception of Dante and maybe Vergil since they telegraph their teleports a bit more obviously. I love correctly guessing a back teleport with Vergil and punishing with level 3.
Zoners are not much of a problem with the right assists, the exception being Dormmamu who I think is probably his worst match up in the game.
Zoners are not much of a problem with the right assists, the exception being Dormmamu who I think is probably his worst match up in the game.
Great podcast. I put Hawkeye second, but I didn't put as much thought into it as Viscant seems to have. I just thought Hawkeye with hidden missiles is way better than Doom with forward arrows. I can do an easy 200-300k in chip from hidden missiles if they are on the ground with Hawkeye (basically s.H arrow to piercing arrow twice plus missile chip).
The podcast also made me want to put some work into Rocket Raccoon though. Try out that spitfire assist.
The podcast also made me want to put some work into Rocket Raccoon though. Try out that spitfire assist.
I used to tell people that all the time. I despise fighting Taskmaster with Zero.
Taskmaster's huge pool of HP also contributes to this. SHIELD SKILLS through everything..
This is honestly the only thing that bugs me about Spencer. If I could jump through the cable of his bionic arm instead of it creating an artificial roof over my head, I'd actually be completely fine with the character.
If you get hit by Bums Haggar, might as well just unplug your controller. It's a 100% combo every damn time.
Can't wait to see him play at Curly Mustache 2.
crimsonspider89
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Taskmaster is just a really solid character all around. Now imagine if he had shit tons of mix ups, thank god he doesn't.
Just going to out hitbox you.
Just going to out hitbox you.
killer sasa was using that anti-phoenix tech with spidey to dismantle a phoneix player during one of the tournaments he entered, it looked pretty effective.
also, I still think Wesker has the easiest high-pay off combos besides Sentinel. You actually have to use the QCF and SRK motions during a Spencer combo.
have you seen the web swing into arrows mix up? its STUPID GOOD
"God's Beard!"
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Spencer's combos are weird because they change pretty dramatically depending on where you are on screen with the wallbounce. You can't just dash H and have it work every time like Wesker. I haven't really gotten it down yet.
"God's Beard!"
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OTG assist, DHC in for the buff and stronger x-factor? I haven't listened to the podcast.
you get all of that in the anchor position. Its really strange. He claims Wesker isnt as good on point anymore. Which i find bizarre. Wesker does stupid amounts of meterless damage and is still a fantastic battery. I guess i have to investigate these Zero meterless combos and try them out to compare but i still think Wesker is great on point or on anchor. With someone who needs meter seccond and a good assist third.
Listening to it hes 1000000000000000000000x correct when it comes to Dr Doom. The character is stupid.
sixteen-bit
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You don't like hearing about him and his life instead of what the actual guests have to say?
crimsonspider89
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Wesker gets some type of assist plus meter as well usually. You usually can get about two meters as well as whoever your anchor is as an assist factor. Whether it be combo extension or projectile.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
You lose half of what really makes Wesker great when he doesn't have an assist to back him. When he's second you have all that meter stored and glasses off if he DHC's in.
I really don't think Doom is better than Mags though. He's more of a team player, thanks to assist, but that's about it, imo. FOOTDIVE is retarded tho.
I really don't think Doom is better than Mags though. He's more of a team player, thanks to assist, but that's about it, imo. FOOTDIVE is retarded tho.
The whole tangent when they talk about Firebrand ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Explaining why nobody gives a rats ass about Firebrand is actually quite simple
I was strongly considering a Zero / Wesker / Phoenix team a few weeks ago. Only issue is I haven't had the time to really learn Phoenix (rl killing me), but even knowing nothing, it's very viable.
I, and I'm sure there's better, but I can do 560k-580k ish (I forget exactly, been a few weeks), meterless, with Zero on point. It does take two assists, but it works on everyone except like Raccoon, Joe, and Arthur. And there are variations of it for them, too.
It even goes into a potentially nice reset immediately afterward. And it builds a little over 1.6 bars.
That being said, I don't like Wesker second, either, unless it's a Phoenix team. I like to ToD people and his DHC just....doesn't.
the_log_ride
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What'd he say?
Who are the resident Zero specialists here? I need help with his lighting loops. Are the L Raikosens supposed to be TK'd, or do you jump up and quickly do them?
"God's Beard!"
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I can do that with Wesker... or Spencer. Or Magneto.
Without Assists? Without X-Factor?
That's one of the first things I was hoping people would start doing when I found out that his taunt got a hitbox now.lol, watching the PeacefulJay stream and someone playing Deadpool used a taunt mid combo before using the teleport failure OTG into super to finish them. Superb.
"God's Beard!"
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Oh, not without assists. Well, I can get pretty close.
Wesker gun loop does a lot of damage. You can get close to 800k with one bar and no assist, and 900k with one assist.
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