XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Shit does that make it pretty much safe then?
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT4| Nothing Stops This Patch!
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Shit does that make it pretty much safe then?
commanderpepper
Member
Helm breaker could always be safe as explained in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRcNehnoSrw
I guess the bold cancel helm breaker allow for making the move safe easier and more consistent.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Yea it seems a lot more consistent and easier to handle now.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Too difficult to do during actual matches though. I gave up on that shit a while back.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I actually do that a lot. Very useful tool when combined with assists.
Canceling Helm Breaker is one of those things that puts Theory Dante near the top, but is next to impossible to do in a real match(and if you tried it, it's more likely to get you killed than win you any games). While I don't doubt people can get consistent with it in training mode or combos, doing it in neutral isn't worth it - if you're not accounting for the right height, or if there's more hitstop than you were expecting, you could fuck it up super easily and get bopped for your troubles.
In other news, yesterday I blocked a shit ton of Zero incoming mixups that I don't see anyone block and felt myself super hard, while today I couldn't block Thor's tridash j.L to save my life(it crossed up half the time, so it's honestly pretty hard to block, but it still felt bad, man). OTZ
Still, I played the Thor(who was pretty good, and ran Thor/Dorm/Shuma) with point Strider, and it was an experience. Most of the games were won with XF2/3 Dante, but the fact I managed to kill Thor quite a number of times with Strider is a win in my book. Baby damage vs 1.25 million health, aka 6 combos to kill. It's been a while since I played point Strider, so it was good experience. Really need to get consistent with his double-jump instant overhead j.Hs though - it's too good not to have.
I've started doing that more often, since I've managed to get semi-consistent. I'd do it more if I didn't play online(since consistency goes out the window online). It's also nice when you're trying to hit someone with Reverb Shock, but it whiffs because they jumped or dashed back and you're open for attack, but Fireworks comes out and bops them. Another great thing to integrate into your neutral is s.H > Weasel Shot on whiff. It's really strong against ground based characters, and if they don't have a whole lot of mobility, or assists to counter it, it's really hard for them to deal with. If they block it on the ground, it's free pressure and mixups, too(unless it's Haggar, but that's par for the course). Hell, s.H to the straight shots isn't that bad, either. I've stuffed Chris' Magnum with it a few times(preemptively, anyways).
In other news, yesterday I blocked a shit ton of Zero incoming mixups that I don't see anyone block and felt myself super hard, while today I couldn't block Thor's tridash j.L to save my life(it crossed up half the time, so it's honestly pretty hard to block, but it still felt bad, man). OTZ
Still, I played the Thor(who was pretty good, and ran Thor/Dorm/Shuma) with point Strider, and it was an experience. Most of the games were won with XF2/3 Dante, but the fact I managed to kill Thor quite a number of times with Strider is a win in my book. Baby damage vs 1.25 million health, aka 6 combos to kill. It's been a while since I played point Strider, so it was good experience. Really need to get consistent with his double-jump instant overhead j.Hs though - it's too good not to have.
Watching Dante specialists 7 years from now is going to be like watching record runs for DJ Max.
commanderpepper
Member
I think that Doom does one rep and goes into super which leads to DHC into Spencer.
JeTmAn81
Member
How long you can combo with Doom depends on how long the preceding combo was. Hitstun does apply here. Usually I don't see Doom get more than two reps.
Ah, so it's like the Spencer hard tag, so two reps with a smaller combo, otherwise just do 1 rep.
What is everyone's thoughts on this team vs team Nemo? I feel like they're pretty similar but Doom is more solid not just on point, but as an assist for Spencer and Nova for incoming, and it's easier to call too. Bolts on the other hand, provides lockdown which is pretty handy, whether it's to snipe out the opponent's assist or set them up for Nova or Spencer shenanigans. I think the unfamiliarity of Bolts vs Plasma Beam gets me ton of birthdays I shouldn't too, haha.
In practice it's much more stable. Doom leaves less room for errors and it accomplishes the same thing on all of the relavent characters in the game. If you can do the same thing but with less effort the road with less effort is usually the way to go in Marvel. Also, because Doom leaves faster it's safer.
Leaves less room for throw/command throw shenanigans though.
I'm learning team Clockw0rk. It's pretty fun, is there anything I should know about Vergil/Strider? I can do the hightime to vajra confirm, occasionally in a real match, and judgement cut+vajra combo extensions already.
Bit of practice in training room and I got the Doom stuff down off a short combo, somewhat longer combo, and off of Nova's air grab. It's pretty easy, extending Doom's combos with Nova or Spencer is very similar to extending with Vergil's Rapid Slash so I got it down fast.
Is comboing off of High Time + Vajra just a tight link? Can't ever get that down.
Is comboing off of High Time + Vajra just a tight link? Can't ever get that down.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Smacking Vajra assist is sooooo satisfying.
It's strict timing for the vajra call. Once you get that down a cr.m or standign m will catch them.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Perfected Terry Bogard online, then won a second time only for him to switch to Morrigan on point and beat me 5 in a row.I respect his play and quick adaption but man he taunts/teabags and complains about Zero a lot.
I remember the very first time I fought him and I coincidentally picked the exact same team. I play a different order though. I beat his ass twice and then he barely squeezed out a couple wins and then crushed me a third time. He then proceeded to talk shit about how to actually use the team or something. I was like.... dude... you won one more than me.
I love that team though, but I use it as a gimmicky Dante team. Permanent devil trigger. Shit is mad fun.
He's fun to play in person, played a set with him using team Nemo. His Strider is damn good offline, and online it's not much different. He's pretty chill and wouldn't have guessed he was the same guy who used to send me hate mail.
But yeah he got teabag friendly when I dropped my XF3 Dante comeback. I do use Zero May Cry so I'm used to it but c'mon man, haha.
The connection was surprisingly pretty damn good with him though (5 bars) , I wanted to play more. Can be hard finding more than 3-4 bars from Hawaii.
Yo Link, I was dodging ranked matches cause after the first one, the Lag was OD and didn't wanna play in that. I think it might've been me tho lmao.
Is quackbot a good/known player? We played 3 matches yesterday, I beat him twice, he beat me once then T-bagged me like a mad man. I was like what the fuck? Seriously? Get into a match with him today, bop his shit, tbagged/taunted at the end like crazy and didn't give him the runback.
Dudes be catching feelings over marvel.
Is quackbot a good/known player? We played 3 matches yesterday, I beat him twice, he beat me once then T-bagged me like a mad man. I was like what the fuck? Seriously? Get into a match with him today, bop his shit, tbagged/taunted at the end like crazy and didn't give him the runback.
Dudes be catching feelings over marvel.
He was playing Mag/Doom/Haggar so probs wrong guy. It was WWB QuackBot.
I was out the whole time bro! Just got home. I check the usual threads on my phone lmao, tell me tomorrow!
The Mango Sentinel
Member
C'mon dawg
He can hold that shit, dude felt himself after one win and I didn't even tbag or anything our first couple games. Just being friendly little me. He didn't ask for a runback, I just didn't play him in ranked anymore. Plus my connection is straight fucked right now.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Haha, I understand. It's what most people do anyway. I personally just like giving someone as many rematches as they want so I can curbstomp them over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
I just wanna take their damn soul and crush their spirits.
And then send them a "ggs" at the end of it all. The hatemail is usually pretty amazing.
Doing it in real life is the best though.
Marvel's most likely gonna downplay the X-Men in spite of Fox (so we'll probably just get Wolverine, Deadpool, Storm, & Magneto....maybe Sentinel if Capcom begs hard enough). Black Widow, Ms./Captain Marvel, & Thanos are guaranteed.
I'd go as far as to say Star-Lord & Groot are safe bets seeing how GotG is about to become an A-list franchise.
Dyni Crippler
Member
Yeah, seriously. I was playing against a Ghost Rider that was giving me a hard time (yes, I have problems againt GR, I'm that bad) and, when he killed both Wright and Frank, he started teabagging like crazy. What the hell, mate?
Then Spencer came in and I killed his whole team. He must've been salty as hell by the end of the match.
Flying High
Member
This is how broken playing against galactus online in UMVC3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWGxGbXOfOs&feature=youtu.be
racketpunch
Member
That's pretty funny
Professor Beef
Banned
The best part is that you cant even kick people from lobbies so you can't nip that shit in the bud.
At least Nitsuma isn't making more fighters.
At least Nitsuma isn't making more fighters.
I feel like there is some irony that the most broken shit in the game has Hidden Missiles on there.
I imagine Star Lord with some quirky movement options and stun guns/bombs/projectiles, and Groot as a non shitty Nemesis. Gamora and Drax can show up in cameos/stages/Lv3s.
I'd also love if Cosmo and Adam Warlock made into the games somehow too. Adam Warlock could have a fun moveset and Cosmo could have a cute cameo somewhere in the game.
I'd also love if Cosmo and Adam Warlock made into the games somehow too. Adam Warlock could have a fun moveset and Cosmo could have a cute cameo somewhere in the game.
Or, knowing Marvel, Drax would replace X-23, Groot would replace Sentinel, & Gamora would be Marvel's answer to Dante.
Don't make me laugh son!
I'm not talking all 40+ moves, I mean in the sense that Gamora would have a variety of guns plus her Godslayer sword.
Then that would just make her another Deadpool type character ie. guns + swords character.
Although truth be told the sword normals of DP aren't that well implemented.
There isn't really anything interesting you can do with either Gamora or Draxx in terms of playstyle. Yeah sure you could give them cool gadgets and weapons but you can give that to RR and Starlord too. They don't have special abilities of their own that stand out. Dante even without all his weapons still has an air dash, a teleport, bold cancel/jump cancel and Devil Trigger.
Have to draw from his comic roots to make him any fun though. Iirc, he has minor psycic and energy related powers. Combined with those knive you get a new Psylocke with a command grab.
I would rather just have Psylocke than Draxx.
Karsticles
Member
Be truthful: do you think SFIV is more fun than Marvel? Or, if you had to choose for only one of these games to have existed in your life, would you be more glad for SFIV over Marvel?
Professor Beef
Banned
Yes.
SF4.
UMvC3 is a bad game that happens to be fun to play. If I were to compare it to all the other fighters on the market, it is probably the worst in terms of in-game content.
I don't know why SF4 was even brought into it.
Bad features or lack of them are terrible no matter what game or genre it is. SF4 got a lot of its bad stuff fixed due to numerous updates but it's still not up to snuff feature wise with other games. It's the most popular and well known FG out now yet its missing basic features.
At least Nitsuma didn't have his name attached to the debacle known as SFxT.
Bad features or lack of them are terrible no matter what game or genre it is. SF4 got a lot of its bad stuff fixed due to numerous updates but it's still not up to snuff feature wise with other games. It's the most popular and well known FG out now yet its missing basic features.
At least Nitsuma didn't have his name attached to the debacle known as SFxT.