UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
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Is this the one you mean Max, or am I just behind?
MARVEL MADNESS! Part 1 - UMVC Gameplay by Maximillian
If so, Great! Fun stuff contained within, I enjoyed the Strange, Strider, and Firebrand bits myself! Shulkie tech looked nice as well.
(haha, guess I shoulda posted before watching
)
Thanks for the gameplay btw, if that wasn't understood..
MARVEL MADNESS! Part 1 - UMVC Gameplay by Maximillian
If so, Great! Fun stuff contained within, I enjoyed the Strange, Strider, and Firebrand bits myself! Shulkie tech looked nice as well.
(haha, guess I shoulda posted before watching
)Thanks for the gameplay btw, if that wasn't understood..
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Oh I get it...sersteven said:
You are better off not thinking about it in my opinion. It was driving me crazy at first, but this is just the kind of thing that happens to the characters and franchises that no one cares about.
It is what it is.
Darkstalkers colors weren't bad because of bad references. They were bad because no one on the team cared enough to even put interesting colors. They couldn't even lift some old colors that were good...enzo_gt said:
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crimsonspider89 said:
Awesome vid, but which one is Max and who is he playing against? Also, it's weird without voices for characters, can you turn them off this time?
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All of that whining about She Hulk being nerfed to hell was nothing but hot air lol.crimsonspider89 said:
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Urgh
Oh Jenny
Ima still stay with you at least day one, but man...
so shorter, making harder to get a relaunch, by getting a wall bounce which renders her Hyper semi useless, and overall looking heavier is not a nerf?
Oh Jenny
Ima still stay with you at least day one, but man...
SolarPowered said:
so shorter, making harder to get a relaunch, by getting a wall bounce which renders her Hyper semi useless, and overall looking heavier is not a nerf?
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enzo_gt said:
Whoa, I really did read that in their respective voices.
Edit: Also, shaowebb, when did you need the survey by? I'd love to help when I get the chance.
Karsticles
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Great video Max. Thanks for showing a bit of Firebrand - I know you're not keen on him. Those She-Hulk relaunches. -_-
Watch out, you'll make She-Hulk players start whining even though they don't know the full extent of her changes!
Too late...
Oldschoolgamer
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Yea...that wallbounce combo of She Hulk's is just nasty.
QisTopTier
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Videos of how to not play firebrand!!! 
Spire on ghost rider looked good, needed some spread shot love though!
Videos are great though, thanks for giving the community sight into the game ahead of time!
Spire on ghost rider looked good, needed some spread shot love though!
Videos are great though, thanks for giving the community sight into the game ahead of time!
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LOLOL yeah and it totally last into another match!Jintor said:
goldlion054
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Watching Max's video helped me realize just how much I'm going to dislike Ghost Rider
Face it Tiger..
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MMMmm.. DAT She-Hulk change is delicious!
Karsticles
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Perhaps it would be more helpful to give advice than to tell him he's not good?Videos of how to not play firebrand!!!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
goldlion054 said:
Yeah, I noticed.
She-Hulk seem to need a LOT OF adjustment with our habits and she might not be same tier as she was.
~Devil Trigger~
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watchout, you might be whining.GuardianE said:
She can still topedo x hyper like old, but at that euro event some people complained that her moving forward more now on the Hyper fucks it up near corner?
Face it Tiger..
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GuardianE said:
Well, I'll try for resets..
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The hyper launches her forward more, which makes you cross yourself up at certain distances. This seems to be an intentional, but I don't quite comprehend the purpose of the change.
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Maybe it makes her a tiny bit better for certain DHCs.Karsticles said:
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As far as I know, the third hit on the Emerald series was pretty much a universal DHC. The first hit hasn't changed in terms of range AFAIK, so I don't think it will help her as a hyper to DHC into. Maybe they just wanted to give her something frustrating?
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I mean connecting the first hit. Jumping forward a tiny bit may help her when someone decides to DHC her into the stage. Most of her normal DHC stuff involved getting your opponent into the corner so that you could safely DHC her into the stage.Karsticles said:
Yeah... it may be a small bit, but tiny things like that could turn into something pretty huge later. No one would have ever expected Sent's drones to be as good as they are. Changing them into a simple blockstring asist had a pretty big effect on how people perceived them in UMvC3.Karsticles said:
Who knows what the future may hold...
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not reallySolarPowered said:
point character just has to be a bit close to opponent, and Jenny would DHC fine, no matter where on stage you are. It has solid range.
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I'm talking about bringing her in with the DHC emerald cannon. EC is currently a stationary hyper that only gets her in via DHC if the opponent is trapped in the corner. Giving it a tiny bit of extra horizontal coverage may be useful under certain circumstances and with certain characters.~Devil Trigger~ said:
Say UMvC3 version is like this...
Doom ground FINGER LASERS+new EC=Connected DHC
While MvC3 version is like this...
Doom ground FINGER LASERS+old EC=No connection for full DHC
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You know I help people with stuff, they just gotta ask. But Max has had the game for awhile the video could just be an older series of matches. On top of the game still being new, who's to say the person using firebrand wanted to really use him as well might of just played them to show off the character a bit for all of us.Karsticles said:
But eh, some base ideas.
Blocked attacks should end in either of the flight mode start ups, the back or forward one depending on character you are fighting and location.
Use the glide after a behind flight mode start up for a quick mix up attack.
During a block string call an assist, fly behind, if assist looks like it wont hit, fireball straight down. Unfly and fly behind again. Or straight up.
For getting in full screen, short hop diagonal down fireballs are your best bet for covering ground, it works similar to how joe can get behind vomerangs to advance in.
If you got the hang of Doom or Modok and the basic idea behind weskers teleport game. firebrands basic play should start to magically ooze out of your hands in no time
Edit: Karst just want's to steal stuff from me, TRUE GOAL REVEALED.
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Nah. We'll have functionally different teams. I won't be able to use Firebrand's Hell's Elevator moves for assist mixups since all of Dormammu's assists are bad for mixups. I plan to mainly play a delay game with Fireball H's combined with air dashes to make them mix up for full combos, and if I need to go in, using Dark Hole to pin my opponent for instant overhead mixups. Left/right mixups won't be doing a lot for me I fear.
Does he really retain his momentum when doing this like Joe does? I'd need to see a video.
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No he doesn't maintain his momentum, but when the fireballs hit the ground they have a firebottle effect plus they are in general slower than him. Which is why you do a low to the ground diagonal one to get distance.Karsticles said:
You can do high low mix ups with the same set ups just about.
Oldschoolgamer
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Dr.Strange looks really scary. For someone with as much as stuff as he has, some of Strange's normals look like they have really good range...
Who on the cast is going to zone him out? Press a button, then you're going to have to read a book. Mash buttons trying to rush down, then get hit with a teleport and risk Impact Palm loops, or use a projectile and get countered. Some of that stuff in the video....o.o
Who on the cast is going to zone him out? Press a button, then you're going to have to read a book. Mash buttons trying to rush down, then get hit with a teleport and risk Impact Palm loops, or use a projectile and get countered. Some of that stuff in the video....o.o
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thats what im sayingSolarPowered said:
if the point character doing the hyper is at fair range, Shehulk will connect EC coming in, weird to add that annoying change.
I DHCed into EC, from Goddess Bracelet, Gamma Tsunami, Gamma Crush, Cutting time, Chaotic flame....anything with hitstun.
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Ahaha, apparently I created a fad with the FINGER LASERS!.
Edit: And with that I mean the bolding and putting them in all caps.
Edit: And with that I mean the bolding and putting them in all caps.
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The fire disappears if Firebrand takes damage, though, and the move has slow startup - I don't think you'll be able to approach safely like this. There's also no evidence that he can have more than one out at once and stack them, which would mean dead periods between fires. If we could, there would be problems with his combined mobility and endless fire juggle combos.
Hell's Elevator might not put my opponent in Dark Hole range, though. I'm interested in exploring his dash attacks for this, since they push my opponent back a bit.
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Never said anything about having more than one out at once haha. Even if the start up isn't the fastest thing in the world, there is a reason why I said fullscreen. Sure you wont use it against every character, but it's an added option vs members of the cast that have issues vs that type of stuff.Karsticles said:
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The reason Joe's Voomerang series work is that each one keeps your opponent busy while you are loading up the next one. If Firebrand has to spit each one out individually, and can't have multiples on the screen, he won't be able to do the thing you are describing in most situations. Personally, I plan on just using Bon Voyage to get in when I need to, and then canceling into Luminous Body for a 50/50 mixup if it fails. Easy and safe!
I could see your method as a good way to zone heavies by using fireball H, and then throwing some L/M fireballs while it travels, and then refreshing H again.
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Guys I just wanted to give everyone props so far on the surveys about your rankings and opinions on the cast announcements for UMVC3 . So far I've received 10 completed surveys and some of this data is already pretty awesome. Also seeing everyone's teams was both cool and frightening as hell in some cases.
I can't wait to share my charts at the end of this project. Thanks everyone.
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I can't wait to share my charts at the end of this project. Thanks everyone.
EDIT:
Survey Link
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shaowebb said:
Where is said survey? I will gladly participate
nvm, found it
It crosses up because it moves forward but it's not a problem, a slight adjustment to inputs so that it hits the other way.~Devil Trigger~ said:
Nice application of the Clothesline wall bounce relaunch. I am thinking she can still do her old relaunch in the corner.
Ghost Rider's Heartless Spire is STUPID. If you guys didn't know this already.
If zoning actually becomes a problem in UMVC3... Captain America will come to the rescue. The ultimate counter pick against zoning.
Oldschoolgamer
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The Dorm buffs. :O
"YESSSSSSSS"- M.Bison
Glad Mags didn't lose all of his style points. The gravity moves did nothing to stop Doom. Speaking of which....omfg @ Doom's buffs. Lol Why? hahahaha
"YESSSSSSSS"- M.Bison
Glad Mags didn't lose all of his style points. The gravity moves did nothing to stop Doom. Speaking of which....omfg @ Doom's buffs. Lol Why? hahahaha
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Wow, Dormammu....
I am moist with anticipation.
Also WTF DOOM? Why in the world did he get all these buffs?
I am moist with anticipation.
Also WTF DOOM? Why in the world did he get all these buffs?
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Dark Matter cross ups make me giggle in anticipation.
Well, it'd be weird if it wasn't.
Mo the Hawk said:
Well, it'd be weird if it wasn't.