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Undertale |OT| Indie RPG with determination and spider bake sales
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Well to answer some of your questions i'd reccommend, if you don't feel like replaying the game,
watching a video on youtube that shows the differences between pacifist and genocide run.
This isn't really a hidden thing.
Mettaton outright tells you during his boss fight that he's the one that got the spiders after you.
Green Mamba
Member
Avoid them, I thought I was trying to hit them, lol
Well that makes a lot more sense. She does stick out like a sore thumb.
I might do that.
I could have swore he only says he sent the mercenaries after you, I don't remember him ever mentioning spiders.
papertoonz
Member
yeah there is actually another backer boss in the game, he is really well hidden and there is a real reason for that
Stone Ocean
Member
Does
So Sorry
Yes,
"wrong enemy" if I am not wrong
papertoonz
Member
The Bankslammer
Member
re: Muffet (all playthrough spoilers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P42_Sp08_xs
She actually has a bigger role in a certain playthrough than is let on, and not many people come by it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P42_Sp08_xs
Basically she ruined Alphys's escape plan that would've prevented the Fallen Child from leaving the Undeground.
He paid Muffet to stop you, thus why she was telling you what she would do with her oodles of cash. Muffet says her client was a shapeshifter. Mettaton being the only explicit shapeshifter in the game, well, there you go.
edit: christ, almost forgot to spoiler this, apologies if anyone who viewed this before the edit was spoiled
This is everything I could have hoped for and then some.
Undyne suplexes Frisk, just because she can.
The Bankslammer
Member
wrestling is real
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
I'm dying
This is phenomenal
You have to show this to the VGCW. That Papyrus + Sans intro is perfect for them
Stone Ocean
Member
The intro, my sides are in orbit
Dear goodness Muffet! I knew you were evil but
Implying that you would have made Alphys into donuts for no reason whatsoever?
holy shit I died when I saw the characters
papertoonz
Member
YES
that's immediately what that sequence reminded me of when I finished it in terms of impact of how I felt afterwards.
FFIX is my favorite FF game and that scene is one of the reasons for it.
FFIX is my favorite FF game and that scene is one of the reasons for it.
Green Mamba
Member
I guessed maybe I was confused because it was my understanding that Mettaton's transformations were not controlled by him. Maybe I don't pay attention enough--I mean, on my first playthrough I thought Mettaton was lying about Alphys using you.
Which I guess reminds me of something I wanted to praise this game for--it's really good at giving things double meanings that only come across in second playthroughs.
Like, inspecting Toriel's bed tells you "It's definitely bigger than a twin sized bed." Which just seems like goofy flavor text. And then you inspect Asgore's bed near the end, it tells you it's a "King sized bed." But by that time you've forgotten about Toriel's bed. And then you start a new game, and inspect Toriel's bed again, and suddenly it's a "duh" moment.
Or one of my favorites--my first time playing through I killed Undyne because I couldn't figure out how to spare her. While you're walking to Hotlands in silence, Papyrus calls you and tells you that it would be great to hang out with Undyne sometime, and it just comes across as miserable and made me feel guilty. And then I played through again, killing no one, and I'm being chased by Undyne down the same hallway and Papyrus calls and says the same exact thing and now it's frighteningly well timed comedy. This is really a special game.
Or one of my favorites--my first time playing through I killed Undyne because I couldn't figure out how to spare her. While you're walking to Hotlands in silence, Papyrus calls you and tells you that it would be great to hang out with Undyne sometime, and it just comes across as miserable and made me feel guilty. And then I played through again, killing no one, and I'm being chased by Undyne down the same hallway and Papyrus calls and says the same exact thing and now it's frighteningly well timed comedy. This is really a special game.
GENOCIDE ENDING SPOILERS
the way they give "determination" a double meaning in the Genocide runthrough is absolutely fucking bone-chilling to me
like it's such a fucking positive theme throughout the whole game on the neutral/pacifist side, but then you start up a Genocide run and delve progressively further and further into killing everything. Every time you save, the monologue about determination becomes increasingly terse and ominous to the point where all Frisk says to him/herself is "Determination." no longer are you determined to proceed but you are determined to kill everything in your path. it's repeated at every save point and the repetition just fucking drives it home what you're actually doing in that playthrough.
like it's such a fucking positive theme throughout the whole game on the neutral/pacifist side, but then you start up a Genocide run and delve progressively further and further into killing everything. Every time you save, the monologue about determination becomes increasingly terse and ominous to the point where all Frisk says to him/herself is "Determination." no longer are you determined to proceed but you are determined to kill everything in your path. it's repeated at every save point and the repetition just fucking drives it home what you're actually doing in that playthrough.
The Bankslammer
Member
a really good one i didn't notice until lately is
FLOWEY - A friendly flower, and your best friend. He has a knack for funny faces.
though maybe "my best friend" would be more accurate?
though maybe "my best friend" would be more accurate?
The Yo Tornado
Member
I have to say, as someone who loves both Undertale and wrestling this was extremely well done. Funny, true to the characters, and perhaps most amazingly managed to be endearing without becoming embarassing, which is hard with a fan work of this scale. Great job.
(general spoilers for neutral or pacifist)
1. Did you also notice that the first caller to Mettaton's farewell "program" is Blook? You can tell by the font, manner of speaking, and the fact that Mettaton begins to say "Bl..." It's a neat detail, especially if you discover Mettaton's backstory by using the key to the house next to Blook's pad.
2. I loved Papyrus's phone call as an example of one of many instances in Undertale where a line or piece of flavor text is received to starkly different effect depending on the player's context. Or even objects: I also killed Undyne on my first run and I thought the presence of the water cooler in Hotland amounted to nothing more than a silly joke.
2. I loved Papyrus's phone call as an example of one of many instances in Undertale where a line or piece of flavor text is received to starkly different effect depending on the player's context. Or even objects: I also killed Undyne on my first run and I thought the presence of the water cooler in Hotland amounted to nothing more than a silly joke.
I wasn't ready for so much of that. Absolutely fantastic.
Oh my loooord.
No idea. But if you want my opinion, buy it sooner than later. It's worth every penny.
Honestly with some of the things the game does, I don't think they'd be able to put it on console. Just get it now, you definitely won't regret if you have interest in it
When asked about it by GameInformer I believe he said it could possibly come to consoles but he sounded very non-committal. There is some things that the game does that I don't exactly know how he would implement it on consoles.
HOLY SHIT, YOU MADE THIS?!
bronk
Banned
Seeing so much love for this game and it looks very unique. Screw it i'll just double dip and show support. Lets do this
Panthalassic
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Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
I don't even really know anything at all about wrestling but this looks amazing! Thank you so much for making someone with such passion! I will have to watch the whole thing later.
I know this doesn't make any sense at all considering even Shovel Knight is a stretch and his game was a timed exclusive for Nintendo, but I'd really love "Human child" or "Papyrus" to come into Brawl. Yes, Undertale hasn't even come out for any Nintendo platforms and probably won't ever, but the characters in the game are too good. "Human"/"Child" would be a must, with Papyrus as an assist trophy with stage/fighter unique dialogue before and after doing his "Cool Dude" special attack. Maybe every so often the dog (who might be a representation of toby fox, if the greenlight trailer is to be believed) would come in to steal all the bones.
"Dating tense!"
Green Mamba
Member
Yeah, I had already connected the dots with Mettaton and Napstablook at that point, so I got that right away. And the water cooler absolutely vexed me my first playthrough, so I was happy to see it have a purpose in my second.
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And I just watched a video of the Genocide differences and yeah, definitely not fucking doing that, holy shit.
This is amazing, I'm literally in tears right now rofl.
i can't believe how god damn entertaining this is
amazing stuff lol
Finally got this game yesterday, and I am not ashamed to say I burnt through it and finished a pacifist run tonight.
Even though I read scattered impressions of it before, the
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And despite the fact that I had seen some spoilers before playing and was generally okay with it, I'm glad I didn't
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That said, I can't bring myself to reset and do a no mercy run. Both because I can't bring myself to kill any characters, and because
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Even though I read scattered impressions of it before, the
True Lab still managed to completely unsettle me. I alt-tabbed when lying on the bed, and received an unpleasant surprise when I alt-tabbed back. The amalgamations were awful experiences (especially the Snowdin Forest one), and the Asriel tapes' implications were unnerving
And despite the fact that I had seen some spoilers before playing and was generally okay with it, I'm glad I didn't
know about Flowey's identity. I thought him just being a flower injected with "determination" was all there was to his origin story, but the truth didn't hit me until the final boss name was flashing on the screen. Very glad that I was rewarded for going back to the beginning after the end like in the demo; I wanted to give him another hug
That said, I can't bring myself to reset and do a no mercy run. Both because I can't bring myself to kill any characters, and because
there's no way I could handle Sans and I don't like admitting defeat
That was magical. MAGICAL!
I can completely empathize with your stance, tho i do admit that
Endogeny, that is, the dog amalgamate, managed to lighten the mood of the true lab
In other news, because i could still not get over the Muffet genocide speech and am a horrible person, i made something:
Link contains spoilers, technically (also main blog might contain things of questionable safety for work).
I tried to let that
cheer me up, but it being this twisted version of something as quirky and cute as the dog-related scenes and "fights" actually made things worse. "You liked those doggies, didn't you? Great! Here's a giant abomination of melted-together doggy corpses. You're welcome!"
brianmcdoogle
Member
I bought this game tonight and downloaded the app from the Humble store (OS X version, direct app and not the steam key) and I can't get it to open. I have Gatekeeper disabled completely, I'm control-clicked to open the app, but every time I do so, I'm getting a "This application is damaged. please move it to the trash" error.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
BrawlPurist
Member
Just when you think you'd heard it all...
Crazy that the game's been out for more than a month and I'm still learning new things about it. What a wild ride this has been.
WHY WOULD YOU D- just kidding that's a pretty great comic. And totally inline with the Genocide route's tone.
OminoMichelin
Member
Try downloading it again?
Rockman Wright
Banned
this is a master piece, thank you for the best dumb thing ever!