The Technomancer
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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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The Lamonster
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Beware - red and blue are switched on these charts.
Yeah.. I hated back in the day how the networks would switch back and forth between colors on Election Night. Very glad that they settled on these colors over the last 12 years or so.
Phoenician_Viking
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Is there any projections about who can win the House and the senate? I really hope the democrats will win them or else Obama would not be able to achieve much.
BobTheFork
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I already know I'm not getting anything done on Tuesday. I'm going to be in bed all day with my laptop, a bottle of Fireball and a bag of those spicy black bean chips that I love so well.
My dad used to be normal, but after a steady diet of the WSJ editorial page and Rush Limbaugh we don't talk about politics any more.
9 hour lines for early voting in Florida.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/03/1155089/-Photo-of-My-9-Hour-Wait-to-Vote-in-Florida
Fucking ridiculous that we make it so difficult to vote in this country.
Democrats seem set to maintain a majority of the Senate. It also looks like they might make some gains in the House but not enough to take the majority away from the Republicans, so you'll likely have a split Congress again.
Sam Wang has a really great article up about how and why election prediction sites differ:
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/11/04/comparisons-among-aggregators-and-modelers/#more-8408
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/11/04/comparisons-among-aggregators-and-modelers/#more-8408
Hero_of_the_Day
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9 hours!? Lady with the 3DS is fucked.
My dad used to be normal, but after a steady diet of the WSJ editorial page and Rush Limbaugh we don't talk about politics any more.
My Dad was always conservative, but it got worse under Obama. My grandfather became intolerable starting around fall 2008.
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The Autumn Wind
Another example of Nintendo suppressing voters.
StopMakingSense
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He looks like that guy from that Hot Chip video.
EatinOlives
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Whichever way this election turns out, it'll be amazing. Fun times to be had drinking tears if Obama wins, but if Romney wins it'll be amazing in the shit-just-got-real thing. Shit'll be so fucked that it's going to turn into one of those just-sit-back-and-enjoy-the-ride insanity parades.
davepoobond
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The Autumn Wind
You and I have very different definitions of "amazing."
Same with my Dad. Even me gently ridiculing him about casting his vote in support of the "the Earth is 6,000 years old!" party's candidates didn't work, which is sad, as he's always been quite a science and sci-fi geek. Sad.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Which one?
Phoenician_Viking
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Thanks. That means that Obama would not be able to do much and will be bill blocked at every corner.
That's the idea, I've heard of one lady getting so pissed that she made a really concentrated poison ivy extract and smeared it all over her sign.
Hobbestetrician
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speculawyer
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SlowRevolution
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Extremely long voting lines caused by shortened early voting, because more people voting = bad for republicans.
No, I think we will know that Obama won Tuesday night. What might take some time to find out is by how much.
Karma Kramer
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lol I am kind of joking but its also fun to guess, its not like anyone actually knows whats gonna happen and ohio is a swing state... plus that article from real clear politics goes over this
speculawyer
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Also long list of ballot measures, some on their face unconstitutional. So voting takes a while....as planned?
So, American Gaffers..... help me out.
Romney.......
Seriously, why's he even in with a shout.
From an outsider's point of view he seems, well, a crazy idiot, a little bit mental.
I really can't see anything in him that I'd even consider to be half decent presidential material.
I've asked non-American's and the only answer I got is "Obama is Black"
Romney.......
Seriously, why's he even in with a shout.
From an outsider's point of view he seems, well, a crazy idiot, a little bit mental.
I really can't see anything in him that I'd even consider to be half decent presidential material.
I've asked non-American's and the only answer I got is "Obama is Black"
Angelus Errare
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My dad used to be normal, but after a steady diet of the WSJ editorial page and Rush Limbaugh we don't talk about politics any more.
9 hour lines for early voting in Florida.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/03/1155089/-Photo-of-My-9-Hour-Wait-to-Vote-in-Florida
Fucking ridiculous that we make it so difficult to vote in this country.
Like I said, what Scott is doing should be flat out illegal that or some severe penalties be issued. It's complete BS.
As far as the presidential candidates go, he's basically the best the GOP has at the moment, and they're pretty damn desperate to get Obama out of office. That's more what it comes down to, it's not so much getting Romney in as it is getting Obama out.
The non-Americans who responded in that way are either joking or incredibly ignorant, though I'm sure you know that. That's a pretty insulting thing to say considering it's likely that only a very tiny percentage of people are that racist.
As for why Romney is a "viable" candidate, well I think it's just part of the two party culture. I think most people who identify as a democrat or a republican will not likely switch sides even if they disagree with most of what their own candidate is running on. They tend to latch onto one issue in that situation. This is especially true with older people... My grandmother for example has always voted republican, and despite my family's attempts to show her how big of a scumbag Romney is, she ignores everything except the fact that Obama wasn't able to help the economy recover as fast as he promised. There's literally nothing we can say that will change her mind, despite all the facts about how the economy got to where it was, how Romney's policies would impact her and the rest of our family when it comes to student loans and Medicare, etc. She likes Obama as a person, and thinks he's an amazing speaker, but the simple fact that she identifies as a republican keeps her from voting in her own best interests. I guess part of her wants to believe that Romney can somehow do better.
Then there are the republicans who are simply brainwashed by Fox news and the likes. They don't realize that nearly everything they're being spoon-fed by these crooks is flat-out untrue. There are unfortunately a LOT of people like this.
Amirox you're a shit eater.
Despite that fact I must praise this great thread! Great job vote Obama.
I really love Jill Steins views however she has no chance & is just another Ralph Nader.
I especially love her views on surveillance since I have 4 cameras on my block.
This is freedom?
Despite that fact I must praise this great thread! Great job vote Obama.
I really love Jill Steins views however she has no chance & is just another Ralph Nader.
I especially love her views on surveillance since I have 4 cameras on my block.
This is freedom?
Freezie KO
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He's not an idiot. He's just a rich dude who would do anything and say anything to be president.
I'm not going to get into a full-on explication of Republican demographics, but Romney voters are combination of people who think (1) free market economics are better for the growth of the economy as the government creates needless bureaucracy; (2) an aggressive foreign policy keeps the US safe; and (3) various regressive social policies because Jesus.
I know plenty of people who believe (1) and are voting for Romney, yet are still decent intelligent people. They tend to be more affluent. Their faith in free market economics tends to reflect the fact that they or, in some cases, their parents have done well in the system.
I have never met someone who believes (3) who I would want to spend time with.
House will stay Republican barring a massive landslide, Senate should stay Democratic (which is a victory), though keeping it in 2014 will be really difficult (I think 23 of the 33 seats up are Dem seats).
Black Mamba
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posting this here as well:
Discuss.
Discuss.
Journeywalker
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Freezie:
I'd expand (1) to include affluent people that vote with their wallets, with very little regard to other issues. There is a lot of overlap with free-marketers, but you may be giving this group too much credit.
I'd expand (1) to include affluent people that vote with their wallets, with very little regard to other issues. There is a lot of overlap with free-marketers, but you may be giving this group too much credit.
polyh3dron
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Southern whites are obviously rich and want Romney to cut their taxes. I mean what else could it possibly be?posting this here as well:
Discuss.
Obama also still needs to work harder on connecting with white working class voters.
Karma Kramer
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posting this here as well:
Discuss.
Should be compared to some thing like Kerry vs Bush.
Karma Kramer
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What station or how are you guys gonna watch the election unfold>?
polyh3dron
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Ill be at work and will try to get streams for both MSNBC and Fox News if available.
If Obama wins ill definitely be watching Fox News.
Black Republican
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it was gonna be fox but i have to work at night, do they do online streaming? if not i might have to stick with cnn or another, they stream election nights i think.
Freezie KO
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I don't necessarily disagree, and some simplifying was necessary on my part to bring it to basics. I agree that a lot of wealthier people believe "Why should my money be taken to support others?"
On the other hand, I think the human mind is a powerful thing. "Why should my money be taken to support others?" quickly magnifies into the larger issue of Economic Freedom versus Economic Fairness. And the person touting Economic Freedom can easily convince themselves that this is ultimately what's best for the greater good.
But in order to not demonize those who argue for Freedom over Fairness, I would say that while I'm voting for Obama and believe in some redistribution of wealth, I might also balk at the idea of taking larger chunks of our budget for foreign aid to build houses for the poor in Libya. While that might be a noble cause, ultimately, I'd rather not spend my taxes on that. And that's the same argument that those affluent Republicans could make, except they make it about Americans.
Well I know the iOS app lets you watch live if you have a cable or sat sub. So I'm guessing the site is the same way.
Karma Kramer
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Could be more of a religious thing than racist... no?
Big Baybee
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"Let me show you something!"
Could be, it's still a stupid thing.
If that's the case, why would they go for the Mormon over the Christian?
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