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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected

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ari

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It is really hard to even even imagine a republican thought process.

Romney was: morman, rich, uncool, flip flopper, and was manufactured by the GOP

yet half of america voted for him. Why?
 
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Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
This is glorious:

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Well Ryan was only half-defeated, but I can take that.
 
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Future

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Since republicans pretty much own the Midwest, if they could get some republicans a little less far right and appeal to blue states on reasonable issues like the right to choose (can be pro choice without being pro abortion), civil rights and immigration, the. I think a republican ticket can win easily. Too bad they always so extreme in their platform with little to no compromise, and therefore alienate anyone not in complete agreement
 
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Toth

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Well, the stock market is already falling today and there is already concerns around. So let me ask this. obama's campaign was all about defaming ROmney and it worked. I still have no clue what Obama is actually GOING to do to turn our country around. Tell me then at least 4 things Obama is going to do that is going to have a positive effect on this country. Be civil please.
 
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Sorry if posted, but here's the LDS church statement congratulating President Obama.

The First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued the following statement Tuesday:

We congratulate President Obama on winning a second term as President of the United States.

After a long campaign, this is now a time for Americans to come together. It is a long tradition among Latter-day Saints to pray for our national leaders in our personal prayers and in our congregations. We invite Americans everywhere, whatever their political persuasion, to pray for the President, for his administration and the new Congress as they lead us through difficult and turbulent times. May our national leaders reflect the best in wisdom and judgment as they fulfill the great trust afforded to them by the American people.

We also commend Governor Romney for engaging at the highest level of our democratic process, which, by its nature, demands so much of those who offer themselves for public service. We wish him and his family every success in their future endeavors.
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RoadHazard

RoadHazard

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Congrats, US GAF! I know the situation is far from optimal (the republicans will keep doing everything in their power to prevent Obama from pushing through any useful changes), but it's still so much better than the alternative.
 
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Rebel Leader

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Toth said:
Well, the stock market is already falling today and there is already concerns around. So let me ask this. obama's campaign was all about defaming ROmney and it worked. I still have no clue what Obama is actually GOING to do to turn our country around. Tell me then at least 4 things Obama is going to do that is going to have a positive effect on this country. Be civil please.
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I have no idea.

I would like 1 thing about Romney he said he would have done to turn the economy. I remember (did I mishear?) about him proposing a 20% tax cut everywhere. And I was like.... and How will that work? Everyone would just hold on to that "20%"
 
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Tex117

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Fenderputty said:
That is A LOT of chance for a party in 4 years time. How does one rebrand like that when the last 8 years has seen the exact oppostive being shoved down everyone throats. I mean ... the republican you just described sounds like a right leaning dem and someone I would vote for.

EDIT: also ... you said Latino have common ground with Republicans, but most of those are social issues you just suggested they drop.
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The Republicans are just going to have to get on board and shift left....I still hold they need to drop the social issues. However, the immigration issues and the support of the family unit (that is just always going to be a part of the Republican platform for awhile to come...not my idea) is something that will resonate with latino voters.

Edit: And Divvy is right...It was very important that these people lost. There is no room for them in politics any longer. If the Republicans want a say going forward, they will need to irraditate this ignorance out of the party.
 
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Protein

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ari said:
It is really hard to even even imagine a republican thought process.

Romney was: morman, rich, uncool, flip flopper, and was manufactured by the GOP

yet half of america voted for him. Why?
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Well, the south voted for him. They aren't exactly the brightest bunch. (from south)
 
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lednerg

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Lord-Audie said:
If the president get 2 judges picks... or 3....

What do you think are the chances of reverting citizens united?
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I wish I knew enough about what would be required to pull that off legally, because I'd like to know. Any lawyers or specialists in Constitutional Law in here?
 
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marrec

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Toth said:
Well, the stock market is already falling today and there is already concerns around. So let me ask this. obama's campaign was all about defaming ROmney and it worked. I still have no clue what Obama is actually GOING to do to turn our country around. Tell me then at least 4 things Obama is going to do that is going to have a positive effect on this country. Be civil please.
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1. He will, hopefully, let the Bush tax cuts expire.

2. He will continue his successful foreign policy.

3. He will be able to push through immigration reform.

4. He will give out free blow-js and PS Vita's for everyone.
 
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Takamura-San

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Toth said:
Well, the stock market is already falling today and there is already concerns around. So let me ask this. obama's campaign was all about defaming ROmney and it worked. I still have no clue what Obama is actually GOING to do to turn our country around. Tell me then at least 4 things Obama is going to do that is going to have a positive effect on this country. Be civil please.
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If by defaming you mean pointing out how much the romney campaign lied.... the yes he was "defamed". (Jeep china, Wellfare, apology tour, Navy ship argument....)

This is where i side with the president on moving us forward.

1. Education: this country has slacked in education for too long. We don't rank top 10 in math and sciences. We have to realize that we're not a manufacturing country anymore. we can't compete for these jobs. We have to create a new workforce and that's possible with more educated people.

2. Energy: Stop dependency of foreign oil and basically oil. Natural Gas (has issues) and "clean" coal (has issues too) can only do so much. The president wants to invest and lean in new energy sources.

3. A fair tax bracket: Tax reform, Expired bush tax cuts and closing loopholes. People argue that the top 1% creates jobs with lower taxes, I don't agree with that premise. I believe that demands drives markets and demand is increased with better buying power for the middle class.
 
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nib95

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Toth said:
Well, the stock market is already falling today and there is already concerns around. So let me ask this. obama's campaign was all about defaming ROmney and it worked. I still have no clue what Obama is actually GOING to do to turn our country around. Tell me then at least 4 things Obama is going to do that is going to have a positive effect on this country. Be civil please.
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Raise taxes on the elite, close a few loop holes, cut military spend, offer more incentives to the middle class to get them spending again. Truth is, not a whole lot of options available to him at this point, and the economy will still be shaped by what happens in Europe too. This is on the economy only mind, socially, educationally and energy wise, he has plans too.
 
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Fenderputty

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Tex117 said:
The Republicans are just going to have to get on board and shift left....I still hold they need to drop the social issues. However, the immigration issues and the support of the family unit (that is just always going to be a part of the Republican platform for awhile to come...not my idea) is something that will resonate with latino voters.

Edit: And Divvy is right...It was very important that these people lost. There is no room for them in politics any longer. If the Republicans want a say going forward, they will need to irraditate this ignorance out of the party.
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I completely agree with you. It just seems like a daunting task.
 
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shaowebb

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Do any of the folks saying they are now moving to Canada realize that Canada is more liberal than the US? Gay marriage, Legalized marijuana, Universal healthcare is already the norm there. If its so much better to live there then what sort of statement are they making about the direction the country voted to move?

Did they even check the facts on Canada's government before yelling these things and saying they'd rather live there? Wouldn't it be like conservative hell for them?

So confused by these people this morning.
 
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Black Republican

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ranks

"
For all the ridicule directed towards pre-election polling, the final poll estimates were not far off from the actual nationwide vote shares for the two candidates," said Dr. Panagopoulos.

On average, pre-election polls from 28 public polling organizations projected a Democratic advantage of 1.07 percentage points on Election Day, which is only about 0.63 percentage points away from the current estimate of a 1.7-point Obama margin in the national popular vote. [...]

1. PPP (D)
1. Daily Kos/SEIU/PPP
3. YouGov
4. Ipsos/Reuters
5. Purple Strategies
6. NBC/WSJ
6. CBS/NYT
6. YouGov/Economist
9. UPI/CVOTER
10. IBD/TIPP
11. Angus-Reid
12. ABC/WP
13. Pew Research
13. Hartford Courant/UConn
15. CNN/ORC
15. Monmouth/SurveyUSA
15. Politico/GWU/Battleground
15. FOX News
15. Washington Times/JZ Analytics
15. Newsmax/JZ Analytics
15. American Research Group
15. Gravis Marketing
23. Democracy Corps (D)
24. Rasmussen
24. Gallup
26. NPR
27. National Journal
28. AP/GfK
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internet polls (ipsos, yougov) on the come up?
 
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pigeon

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Tex117 said:
The Republicans are just going to have to get on board and shift left....I still hold they need to drop the social issues. However, the immigration issues and the support of the family unit (that is just always going to be a part of the Republican platform for awhile to come...not my idea) is something that will resonate with latino voters.

Edit: And Divvy is right...It was very important that these people lost. There is no room for them in politics any longer. If the Republicans want a say going forward, they will need to irraditate this ignorance out of the party.
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I agree with this. I think the Republicans can survive with socially CONSERVATIVE policies -- limited abortions but not wholly illegal, immigration reform, continuing to subsidize the family unit. It's the socially REACTIONARY positions that they're getting beat on, and those should be left to the American Heritage Party.
 
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