Gary Whitta
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Fuck him, BLOCKED.
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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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Spent election might watching returns with my brother. He's conservative but not a Fox News parrot, and it's evident to him that the Republican Party must reverse course on the immigration issue. We talked about that quite a bit. As the demographic map changes the chances of Generic Republican winning against Generic Democrat for the White House moves from "difficult" to "nigh impossible" considering the voters that the Republican Party has purposefully disenfranchised. If they want to win they MUST begin to walk that back, or win ever larger margins of the white vote.
Problem is, in my view, the white vote they have now is a coalition of many types ranging from social policy conservatives (abortion, gay rights opposition, etc), fiscal conservatives, nationalists, and varieties of cultural reactionaries including xenophobics and straight up racists. If they try to walk back on the immigration issue they may slowly reconnect with a portion of the Latino voters they disenfranchised in pthe past decade, but they will simultaneously alienate the reactionary racist vote they currently hang on to.
Any political group with even primitive moral standards wouldn't mind losing the racist vote. The prime movers among Republicans, however, have become little more than a vessel for inducing voters to put private interests in power, so they see collecting votes as a business objective, free of all moral dimensions. They are breathtakingly cynical about any use of political power not related to private profit. Thus they really feel trapped: courting the Latinos will drive away the racists, which doesn't further their agenda of attaining power in the short term.
Problem is, in my view, the white vote they have now is a coalition of many types ranging from social policy conservatives (abortion, gay rights opposition, etc), fiscal conservatives, nationalists, and varieties of cultural reactionaries including xenophobics and straight up racists. If they try to walk back on the immigration issue they may slowly reconnect with a portion of the Latino voters they disenfranchised in pthe past decade, but they will simultaneously alienate the reactionary racist vote they currently hang on to.
Any political group with even primitive moral standards wouldn't mind losing the racist vote. The prime movers among Republicans, however, have become little more than a vessel for inducing voters to put private interests in power, so they see collecting votes as a business objective, free of all moral dimensions. They are breathtakingly cynical about any use of political power not related to private profit. Thus they really feel trapped: courting the Latinos will drive away the racists, which doesn't further their agenda of attaining power in the short term.
The biggest problem with the GOP is that they bully their own candidates and force them into a mold. I know a lot of Mitt's stances were adopted simply because he absolutely had to adopt them simply because he's on the Repubican ticket. If they'd let their candidates be individuals, things would be much better. 2008 Romney would have had a much, much better chance of winning last night and very well could have.
The GOP is way too stubborn. It's the same reason Huntsman got wrecked in the primaries. He's too willing to actually work across the aisle, and not just say that he's willing to.
Should wait until votes have actually been counted until such rankings. Also if you take the reported margins of error seriously, ranking based on a single poll is completely meaningless
So good. :lol :lol :lol
Escape Goat
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Its not settling well with ME.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Im so sad that the comment section is disable... 
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Gallop burned so bad at the end. And Nate vindicated.
Gary Whitta
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Here's the Karl Rove meltdown on FOX:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...hio-obama-megyn-kelly-20121107,0,911700.story
http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...hio-obama-megyn-kelly-20121107,0,911700.story
Escape Goat
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Druge sure made that little stat disappear
BotoxAgent
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As much as I want to be a good sport, Republicans have made it really hard (make Obama a one-termer, refuse to govern, illegitimate rape, xenophobia, birtherism, unskewed nonsense, Trump, Limbaugh, voter suppression, etc etc etc). They deserve to eat shit for a while.
indigo-cyclops
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Can't believe I listened to all 24 minutes of that drivel.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
To the drunk thread?
"and here's my butterscotch schnaps, wha wha wha."
Me too.Im so sad that the comment section is disable...
How could you not? It's amazing.
JetBlackPanda
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CHEEZMO;44094185 said:pctx I got your avatars bro. Yes plural because I'm pro-choice haw haw
or
Bonus choice
Feel free to choose as you wish.
that Hillary avatar is bad ass.
Tesseract
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oh man, it's so good.
Fenderputty
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Pretty much. I think I posted something like this in the poligaf thread. The republican primaries (at least this year) forces candidates to fit that mold you speak of. Once the primary is over though, the candidates have to appeal to a broader base to win the whole thing. It just makes the whole process awkward and it becomes easy for the dems to paint their opposition as flip floppers etc etc. It aslo makes it easy for moderate dems/independants/repubs to side with the left. I would honestly consider voting for a republican that fit the description Tex gave a short while ago. However, the current state of the republican party is such that the Dems could throw almost anyone in and get my vote.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Wouldn't be surprised if PD snagged that.
BadAss2961
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The Obama one has "u mad?" or "deal with it" written all over it.
Confusion Illusion
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To me, it seems to me the biggest mistake Republicans made was driving out all there moderates. Every one just seem to hard right. Maybe what the party needs is modern day Roosevelt or even Eisenhower and less Reagan. But what do I know... I'm not even American.
The trolling from Nate and PPP was great.
This is god damned hilarious.
"LEARN TO USE THE INTERNET OR GET THE FUCK OFF IT!"
indigo-cyclops
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Nope, to this Youtube user who posted some meltdown video. Posted back a few posts.
Ha, I think that's why I did. But damn, delusional beyond conception.
Chips, dip, butterscotch schnaps for dinner everyone!
polyh3dron
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link?
Gary Whitta
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So many reputations in the trash this morning, it's great. But at the end of the day hacks like Dick Morris and Michael Barone will just keep on ticking even after this devastating demonstration of their cluelessness because at the end of the day they do not trade on accuracy, they trade on telling their base what they want to hear. Although it certainly seems as though Morris is seeing a LOT of backlash from his followers who this morning feel totally betrayed by him. I'd love to believe this is the end of that fucking man-slug. Rove too.
LA Times nailed it that the overall meta-narrative of this election is the triumph of data-driven poll nerds live Silver over partisan trolls like Morris. Interesting how it's a microcosm of the larger right-wing problem of rejecting science in favor of ideology.
LA Times nailed it that the overall meta-narrative of this election is the triumph of data-driven poll nerds live Silver over partisan trolls like Morris. Interesting how it's a microcosm of the larger right-wing problem of rejecting science in favor of ideology.
"GOOGLE IS A LEFT-WING TOOL! USE IT AGAINST THEM!"
She needs to drink more bourbon to get over it.
Simple
They are talking out of their ass and everything they need to know about the world is from a radio talking douche bag or Fox News propagandist.
They have no idea how things really work in the world just how they work in their little bubble to rationalize their perception of "facts".
To summarize they are mostly ignorant fools.
theviolenthero
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now if someone would call out CNN for pandering to the "too close to call" election cycle they tried to perpetuate.
Only if the government gives it to me for free!
John Stewart might.
Jason's Ultimatum
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So Obama could've lost OH, FL, and VA and still win the election, right? All he really needed was NM, CO, and NV.
NH, and WI as well.
indigo-cyclops
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Just waiting for the guy to say "women shouldn't be allowed to vote".
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
True, but CO was called too late and Ohio wasn't really that close.
Fenderputty
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This along with Obama's speech at the end were my two high points of last night. Rove was a joke last night and it was glorious watching him fight amongst his own.
Yes. If Obama had lost all of OH, FL, and VA, based on the results he would still have 272 electoral votes right now and thus be president.
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