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[PhoenixDark]

Why is the lion white?

Edit: In the vision...

Likely a historical/past vision of the white lion Drogo hunts; he gave its pelt to Dany.

I think the grey lips person is Euron. He drinks that warlock stuff which changes the color of his lips, and it's believed he might either be hiding on Vic's ship or somewhere close. I can't believe he would honestly send Victarion to bind dragons and bring a bride back to him; he knows Victarion hates him. It must be some type of ploy. Plus in ADWD the red priest tells Tyrion that he sees a one eyed, ten legged beast on water, following them. That has to be Euron .

 

[Famassu]

Three seasons of AFfC / ADwD would kill the show. What's Brienne doing during that time? Bran? Davos? It wouldn't work.

Here's a season 5 proposed by someone on westeros.org that I think is quite plausible:

No, that doesn't sound in any way plausible, stuff just moves on way too quickly, there'd be absolutely no room for any kind of worthwhile character development and introductions would have to be rushed. Someone like Aegon being revealed to be who he is in the latter part of the first half of the season and then being in Westeros already a few episodes later would just be silly. It's better to maybe END the season with them making the decision to go there and maybe even start their journey there, and then leave people waiting for a year to see how it goes so it wouldn't seem like it took them a day to sail to Westeros or something.

No, that just moves on way too quickly, considering something like Dany's wedding & the pit afterwards would need to be a BIG event much like the episode on sunday, which I'm assuming is mostly about the whole episode being given to the purple wedding. That schedule would also mean Tyrion would miss the pit, I think it's pretty important he be there.

I still maintain that it's pretty much mandatory that with them starting AFFC & ADWD in Season 4, they need to spend all of Season 5 for it with most characters and at least 3-4 episodes out of Season 6 for them as well and Season 6's end can be THE MOST EPICEST OF EPICEST EPIC television ever with all kinds of massive battles of Meereen, Winterfell as well as Jon being (Wolf) Yeesuz, perhaps White Walkers finally materializing as a real threat and whatever else Martin's got cooked up for the early parts of TWOW. This ESPECIALLY in light of them renewing Season 5 & 6 at the same time.

 

[Steelyuhas]

WiC posted their first Twitter reaction roundup and also coined the great word "threatsposition". Some highlights:

@triSARAHtops_41: The episode just started and I’m already pissed off and sad

@jadande: Daenerys has more nicknames than Shaq in 1999-2000.

@motelsonthemoon: She doesn’t even want Lemoncakes. I can’t even.

Currently getting strange looks at the office for how hard I'm laughing at this Shaq line.

 

[Macmanus]

This is probably common knowledge to everyone in this thread but me; what is the plan with UnCat? Is that character just being cut?

 

[Dysun]

This is probably common knowledge to everyone in this thread but me; what is the plan with UnCat? Is that character just being cut?

Doubt it, wait for the season finale

 

[Violater]

They need to get Ghost back to Jon's side. Always bugged me that he just wandered off. lol

Lot of good that will do.....

 

[SamVimes]

This is probably common knowledge to everyone in this thread but me; what is the plan with UnCat? Is that character just being cut?

We don't know for sure i think, but i doubt she is getting cut.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Vice: Please shut the fuck up about 'Game of Thrones'

Vice Being Vice.

Vice: NO, WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT 'GAME OF THRONES'?

 

[methodman]

Vice Being Vice.

Vice: NO, WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT 'GAME OF THRONES'?

Seemed like a pointless article to write in response. How is this guy responding about a show that he's never seen to a dude saying fuck Game of Thrones who has also never seen the show? Lol. I understand the backdrop of fantasy and elitism that comes with people who just hate everything to do with it, but cmon... Both articles were trash imo

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Seemed like a pointless article to write in response. How is this guy responding about a show that he's never seen to a dude saying fuck Game of Thrones who has also never seen the show? Lol. I understand the backdrop of fantasy and elitism that comes with people who just hate everything to do with it, but cmon... Both articles were trash imo

Agreed. I didn't really see the point of either one. I felt like I was back in 2001 reading somebodys livejournal.

 

[methodman]

Agreed. I didn't really see the point of either one. I felt like I was back in 2001 reading somebodys livejournal.

His entire premise is as dumb as the guy who's never seen the show: "Fuck you for not giving the show a chance!! PS. I have not seen the show either and I've only read up to book 3 and feel like I'll never be able to catch up now."

Uh what? Do you realize how slow grrm writes lol

 

[Cornballer]

- Onion A|V Club's Internet Film School: Game Of Thrones cordially invites you to take a damn seat at the kiddie table

How restricting the level of framing can create sympathy for a certain class of characters.

This is a good feature that they do regularly, and it's worth a look if you're interested in why certain scenes are shot the way they are.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

They need to get Ghost back to Jon's side. Always bugged me that he just wandered off. lol

Aside from the scene where Ghost abandoned Jon, Jon has not had a scene with Ghost since Season 1.

 

[Red Arremer]

This is probably common knowledge to everyone in this thread but me; what is the plan with UnCat? Is that character just being cut?

Would be weird to cut a character that is so important to the plot.

 

[Cornballer]

- WiCnet: Pictures from Season 4, Episode 2 ‘The Lion and the Rose’

 

[Razzer]

- Onion A|V Club's Internet Film School: Game Of Thrones cordially invites you to take a damn seat at the kiddie tableThis is a good feature that they do regularly, and it's worth a look if you're interested in why certain scenes are shot the way they are.

Man that's really cool. If all of those effects were intended it's fascinating.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

- WiCnet: Pictures from Season 4, Episode 2 ‘The Lion and the Rose’

Joffrey looking real smug

Natalie dormer <3

 

[Macmanus]

Would be weird to cut a character that is so important to the plot.

Would it be that weird? I'd imagine the GoT budget is counting down to the penny since it's so damned expensive, and giving Michelle Fairley a new contract to mumble a few lines in a few scenes through a trachea hole seems counter intuitive. So do they just recast UnCat or do they like Thoros and Dondorian continue to romp around the Riverlands?

You guys don't really think a regularly employed classically trained thespian like Fairley is going to play a no-line zombie, do you?

 

[dubq]

Would it be that weird? I'd imagine the GoT budget is counting down to the penny since it's so damned expensive, and giving Michelle Fairley a new contract to mumble a few lines in a few scenes through a trachea hole seems counter intuitive. So do they just recast UnCat or do they like Thoros and Dondorian continue to romp around the Riverlands?

You guys don't really think a regularly employed classically trained thespian like Fairley is going to play a no-line zombie, do you?

You know they could always change her to have lines, right? How things go down in the book doesn't mean they need to go down the same way in the show, as has been proven over and over again in this series already.

 

[todd360]

Aside from the scene where Ghost abandoned Jon, Jon has not had a scene with Ghost since Season 1.

Wow I didn't even realize this.

 

[Herr K]

I think they're going to get into a fight they can't win and the Hound is going to hold them off while he tells Arya to leg it, then cut away so we don't see what happens.

I don't see them pulling another Syrio Forell

 

[DKehoe]

Aside from the scene where Ghost abandoned Jon, Jon has not had a scene with Ghost since Season 1.

Wait, really? That's weird

 

[Macmanus]

You know they could always change her to have lines, right? How things go down in the book doesn't mean they need to go down the same way in the show, as has been proven over and over again in this series already.

That's kind of my point... they'll change it from the book. Given the logistical circumstances of Michelle already deep in other contracts I don't know how viable getting her back will be.

 

[Speevy]

nm, forgot about the Sansa scene.

Also, was the premiere this week the first time Joffrey shared dialogue with his father?

 

[Iksenpets]

- WiCnet: Pictures from Season 4, Episode 2 ‘The Lion and the Rose’

Joffery making out with Marg is kinda hilarious.

That's kind of my point... they'll change it from the book. Given the logistical circumstances of Michelle already deep in other contracts I don't know how viable getting her back will be.

It's one scene season and then maybe some more a year or two down the line. It can be written to minimise her role and offload some of it onto Beric or Thoros or whomever, but I don't think they could cut it entirely, and I don't think it would be difficult to get her back for small appearances.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Wow I didn't even realize this.

Wait, really? That's weird

Yeah. Unless I'm totally forgetting something, Ghost's scenes since season 1 (the few that there are) have either been with Sam or Ghost just sitting there being window dressing in some shot of generic Night's Watch guys. Aside from the one where he ditches Jon, that is.

 

[Herr K]

I freaking love Margaery <3

 

[Speevy]

I think they could have easily filmed Lady Stoneheart scenes already.

I mean, why not? They had the Freys, Brienne, Beric, etc.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I think they could have easily filmed Lady Stoneheart scenes already.

I mean, why not? They had the Freys, Brienne, Beric, etc.

Did Beric promise Arya in the show that he wouldn't let Cat die? I forget.

 

[Macmanus]

It's one scene season and then maybe some more a year or two down the line. It can be written to minimise her role and offload some of it onto Beric or Thoros or whomever, but I don't think they could cut it entirely, and I don't think it would be difficult to get her back for small appearances.

Solid points. I certainly hope you're correct.

Did Beric promise Arya in the show that he wouldn't let Cat die? I forget.

I don't believe so.

 

[Speevy]

Did Beric promise Arya in the show that he wouldn't let Cat die? I forget.

He was sympathetic to the fact that Ned lost his head, but I don't think he explicitly promised to protect Catelyn Stark.

 

[Palmer_v1]

TWS

Spoiler

Hail Hydra?

 

[fallengorn]

Dat Joffrey smugness. It's good to be the king.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

I love how people have absolutely no idea that a major event is happening next episode. I was talking with people in my class and they were all "I wonder what the huge event will be at the end! I hope Joffrey dies in the finale."

 

[RedShift]

TWS

Spoiler

Hail Hydra?

That point. Smug motherfucker.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I don't have the link now (at work) but someone posted a video to some non-readers who do deep analysis of the episodes. I've been watching their videos and one of them is predicting Joff's death for ep 2, based on the trailers showing Tyrion in prison. The other reviewer totally called the Lysa Arryn/LF connection with respect to lying about the Lannisters killing Jon Arryn.

 

[Cornballer]

- WiCnet: Anatomy of a Throne: “Two Swords”

This, then, is the anatomy of a key scene of Thrones – not because of its dramatic importance or visual effects whizbangery, but because of the telling nature of its realization.

Episode: “Two Swords” (401)
Scene: Prince Oberyn’s introduction

 

[pr0cs]

Was hoping Peterson (the guy who invented Dothraki and Valyrian) would give his rating on how the actors performed the language. Sadly looks like he's too busy so we won't get any feedback on each episode.

I still recommend his site if you're interested on how they generated the languages for the show, very cool.
His opinion last season was that Jacob Anderson (Grey Worm) was the most accurate in the pronunciations.


http://www.dothraki.com/author/dedalvs/

 

[eot]

I rewatched the last scene with Davos and Stannis in S3 and I don't get why they portray Stannis the way they do. He's such a henpecked tool, doing whatever Melisandre tells him. The way the scene plays out you'd think Melisandre was the regent in the room, it doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Palmer_v1]

That point. Smug motherfucker.

haha, didnt even notice that. Like that BTTF kid tapping his junk.

 

[3N16MA]

I don't have the link now (at work) but someone posted a video to some non-readers who do deep analysis of the episodes. I've been watching their videos and one of them is predicting Joff's death for ep 2, based on the trailers showing Tyrion in prison. The other reviewer totally called the Lysa Arryn/LF connection with respect to lying about the Lannisters killing Jon Arryn.

That thread also has some people predicting that Tywin will die at the hands of one of his children.

 

[Corpsepyre]

So, what are the chances we will be seeing the end of Joffrey in the next episode? Do you think they will drag it a little further considering that the actor playing Bron did say there will be many changes this time around.

 

[Kerned]

So, what are the chances we will be seeing the end of Joffrey in the next episode? Do you think they will drag it a little further considering that the actor playing Bron did say there will be many changes this time around.

Nah, I would put the chance right around 100%.

 

[CambriaRising]

So, what are the chances we will be seeing the end of Joffrey in the next episode? Do you think they will drag it a little further considering that the actor playing Bron did say there will be many changes this time around.

I'd say that the chances are at about 100%.

Unless the show takes a left turn from the source material and doesn't kill Joff until much later. I don't think they will do that though. So far they have been very good about sticking to major events in the source material.

 

[Speevy]

That thread also has some people predicting that Tywin will die at the hands of one of his children.

That struck me as a little too on the nose.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I love how people have absolutely no idea that a major event is happening next episode. I was talking with people in my class and they were all "I wonder what the huge event will be at the end! I hope Joffrey dies in the finale."

I have a gif for when people see those moments.

Spoiler

Justified has the best gifs, and I use them whenever possible.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

I have a gif for when people see those moments.

Spoiler

Justified has the best gifs, and I use them whenever possible.

I'm not sure if people in the other thread are going to rejoice or cry that Tyrion is imprisoned for it.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

I'm not sure if people in the other thread are going to rejoice or cry that Tyrion is imprisoned for it.

Probably a good mix of both, and then when he kills Tywin, their heads are going to explode.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I can see people guessing Tyrion will kill Tywin eventually, in fact the no spoilers thread features many who believe that. But I doubt anyone will guess Shae's involvement. It'll be a mind fuck.

 

[PFD]

*BOOKS SPOILERS* *BOOKS SPOILERS* *BOOKS SPOILERS* *BOOKS SPOILERS* *BOOKS SPOILERS* *BOOKS SPOILERS*

So, what are the chances we will be seeing the end of Joffrey in the next episode? Do you think they will drag it a little further considering that the actor playing Bron did say there will be many changes this time around.

There are press reviews of the first three episodes. Joff dies in EP 2