Basileus777
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It's more of a matter of want than ability now. It's certainly possible for them to do it.
They're not waiting. Those are gone.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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It's more of a matter of want than ability now. It's certainly possible for them to do it.
Steelyuhas
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I always liked him, but for me Barristan's content after Dany's departure is really interesting content. It's a shame that might not be a part of the show in some way, although to be honest I doubt we'd see much Meereen without Dany there on the show.
From what we can piece together, I do think that it's Barristan. Sam is the only other one that kinda makes sense, but I just don't see a realistic narrative is which Sam dies in the first half of season 5...and Sam is a much more significant character to the point where I doubt we'd see him die at this point.
From what we can piece together, I do think that it's Barristan. Sam is the only other one that kinda makes sense, but I just don't see a realistic narrative is which Sam dies in the first half of season 5...and Sam is a much more significant character to the point where I doubt we'd see him die at this point.
We know the pit scenes are directed by David Nutter, so episode(s) 9 or 10.
That's what I thought, too, but I think they're pretty set on proving me wrong at this point.
badcrumble
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It's reasonably likely that Barristan dies early in TWOW anyway, given that we know there's a big battle coming, so I could see the show killing him off slightly earlier if that's the case.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Game of Thrones is all about dose shocking deaths now brah!
It's almost as if D&D didn't plan ahead when plotting out the series...
They could just give all of his stuff to Tyrion or Jorah. I don't think it would be that big of a deal if he died.
What if it's both :O
Basileus777
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I don't see why
talk.
Brienne and Yara are being dismissed from the death
cj_iwakura
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I know not a lot happens in AFFC/ADWD, but no way. Two seasons at least.
Steelyuhas
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Let's not get crazy!
Brienne and Pod are seen in the snow in the recent trailer, so I assume that's from pretty late in the season.
Yara: Possible I guess, I don't see it as very likely myself.
Yara: Possible I guess, I don't see it as very likely myself.
Yeah about that...majority of Feast/Dance is happening in season 5.
I don't think either would meet the requirement of being someone expecting a bigger role this season. Brienne's been a full-fledged main character for two seasons now, so I can't see her expecting more. Yara maybe could, but I would think she has to know her plot was always in danger of trimming. Ever since they sent her on her silly mission she had to know her story wasn't going as written.
Basileus777
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I think the quote "they were excited because they thought they were going to get more material this year" is broad enough not to dismiss either of them. It doesn't necessarily mean a character with a small role expecting to jump up a tier. The knock against Brienne is that Stoneheart being written out was already pretty evident.
cj_iwakura
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Weird. I expected they'd use the first halves of both, stretch them out with filler(not hard), then finish both in 6.
Basileus777
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That's definitely not how they're doing it. Their plan has been to finish the entire thing in 7 seasons. Stretching makes no sense, they need to make very moment of screen time count to get through this.
cj_iwakura
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Wow. Good luck with that. If that's the case, then I agree,
Jon's biting it.
But then,
where the hell is Stoneheart?
Incandenza
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Sent wherever Aegon, Jon Connington, Victarion, Euron, Quentyn, the Alchemist, and whores go.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Lactose_Intolerant
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Season 6
Basileus777
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Don't. People might actually start expecting this.
cj_iwakura
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This is really going to be the book-ripper season, isn't it?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I think they're pretty much just going to go their own path from here to end. Some things will match up, but the show is going to be its own thing.
Don't you fucking dare until TWOW is out.
I'm fine with them being separate things, but if they are to end in the same place, there's no way of not spoiling things by watching the show
(i.e. Aegon is either fAegon or dies pretty quickly without making much noise to the main storyline. Greyjoy storyline is just filler. etc.)
I'm shocked GRRM is commenting on these questions...
It's happening.
Victarion getting his own movie/spinoff like he rightfully deserves.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
They should do something different. Have a Victarion variety show, like Sonny and Cher used to do.
biosnake20
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RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Basileus777
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That's the past!
"Basileus pls"
The man is delusional. The show is already moving along at a breakneck speed with its sights set on finishing in a solid seven seasons... BUT LET'S IGNORE ALL PACING AND HOW FAR ALONG THE PLOT ALREADY IS AND NONSENSICALLY DRAG IT OUT FOR THREE MORE.
They stretched book 3 into 2 seasons. Book 6 will be be full of deaths and at least 2 major battles. Its going to get really expensive if they dont spread it out.
Moff
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book 3 was full of great content, one of the best fantasy books ever written
book 6? well we don't know yet, but if book 4 and 5 are any indication, they can easily cut out a lot of content
It's not an indication though. 4&5 were what happened when Martin couldn't get his 5 year gap to work. It's wind down and then build up.
He's said as much, wars, weddings and deaths are coming.
Year after year, money becomes less of an issue.
By the end of Season 5 we'll be well into Winds territory with certain characters. This isn't speculation.
That leaves Season 6 and a split Season 7 (which seems to be the likeliest outcome) to deal with the rest of the story.
I say "the story" and not "the books", because those books don't exist yet, and have not and will not be considered as the basis for the next few seasons. Rather, D&D have been informed of the rest of "the story" and the endgame, and will make their own way there. If you expect the final seasons and the last two books to be similar, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
The drastic changes this season will set the precedent for the show moving forward. Best to accept that now rather than be shocked every time there's a major change. (I'm not aiming this at you by the way, I'm just saying it in general.)
You seemed to be shooting down Martin bringing up the possibility of an eighth season. That's all I was replying to.
On another note... About Loras being arrested by the High Sparrow. Does anyone else find this incredibly stupid? I doubt it has an actual historic precedent and don't we already know from Joffreys disgust in Season 3 that it's not illegal? Never mind that he's a bachelor, a dude and not breaking any vows. There has to be much more to this as one whores word is not going to bring down the heir of High Garden. The accusations have to be much broader, like regicide. Hopefully it's Littlefinger more directly manipulating Cersei through the whore.
Like who? Sansa? Characters who are all but confirmed to be running on original content? If it came to it, the show will have no trouble dragging the story out a little longer with noncanon deaths, dog chases and boobs.
On another note... About Loras being arrested by the High Sparrow. Does anyone else find this incredibly stupid? I doubt it has an actual historic precedent and don't we already know from Joffreys disgust in Season 3 that it's not illegal? Never mind that he's a bachelor, a dude and not breaking any vows. There has to be much more to this as one whores word is not going to bring down the heir of High Garden. The accusations have to be much broader, like regicide. Hopefully it's Littlefinger more directly manipulating Cersei through the whore.
By the love of all that is right, please don't stretch this story, God knows it already has a lot of contrieved filler and far too many loose plots. More is not better. Let Song of Ice and fire end with a bang instead of a whimper.
Basileus777
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They've threatened to cut the ears off of anyone who leaks it.
He is of the night, he blended with the shadows, moved unnoticed.
cartoon_soldier
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I think this is different death than the one being speculated about. This is Jon's death I am 99% sure. I think the speculation about a character who would have had more material but is dying is Barristan or Sam
PhoenixDark
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There will be at least 8 seasons. Whether it's 8 proper or two parts of S7.
The Queenmaker sequence is rewritten to take place at night, so Darkstar is actually invisible. His actor recorded all scenes in an LA voice-recording studio.
Eh, I don't think it's implausible that the Faith views homosexuality as immoral, but the crown has never outlawed it. From the trailers, the Sparrows seem to oppose alcohol, too, which isn't illegal either.
Steelyuhas
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"We serve the Gods, and the Gods demand justice"
Could indicate the Faith enforcing beyond the crown's laws.
Could indicate the Faith enforcing beyond the crown's laws.
Atraveller
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I always picture his axe to be something plain, battle tested, not this fancy.
That also looks more like a spear than an axe.
Meh, I didn't like it that much.
Atraveller
Banned
It looks like a guando.
bengraven
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I think we'll get more than 7 seasons and more than even 7.5. It's getting bigger and bigger every single year and is huge now - why kill it in two years?
And with the iron islands, we have plenty of material for 10 seasons. Hell, we can actually have Dani get comfortable in Westeros.
AND there's a tiny chance, very very tiny, that we'll see DoS before the show ends.
LOL
And with the iron islands, we have plenty of material for 10 seasons. Hell, we can actually have Dani get comfortable in Westeros.
AND there's a tiny chance, very very tiny, that we'll see DoS before the show ends.
LOL
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