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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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bengraven
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I'm on Artstation right now checking out concept art to inspire me to start writing (I have a blank page open right now waiting).
I found this on a page with the description "Old Man".
Yeah, I think we know who the old man is and I think it's actually a really awesome pic of him.
Source.
No, because that's not unexpected. It's one that HASN'T died in the books.
NeoGriff on the last page or two made it sound like it's going to be one that the book readers are going to be really hurt by.
As in we're going know what it felt like to be one of the non-book viewers of the Red Wedding.
I found this on a page with the description "Old Man".
Yeah, I think we know who the old man is and I think it's actually a really awesome pic of him.
Source.
No, because that's not unexpected. It's one that HASN'T died in the books.
NeoGriff on the last page or two made it sound like it's going to be one that the book readers are going to be really hurt by.
As in we're going know what it felt like to be one of the non-book viewers of the Red Wedding.
A lot of people on various sites are saying that they never expected The Gift to be referenced in the show, but I could have sworn it was brought up in a conversation between Bran and Jojen back in Season 3. Am I crazy?
Lol.
Lol.
Ok, I wouldn't go that far. But yeah, you're on the right track.
I don't remember a Jojen reference to the gift. That sounds like the sort of thing where your book memories and show memories merged to create a scene that never happened.
Also, I only just realized that the "gift" has significance to Arya's plot as well.
joliefaire
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You didn't read my response to you some posts back? I'm crushed. Going to climb to the top of a tall building, and leap. Goodbye, cruel world.
Steelyuhas
Member
fkn lol at Rickon in that scene
Yes, per NeoGriff's link, piece of land just south of the Wall that was given to the Night's Watch.
You didn't read my response to you some posts back? I'm crushed. Going to climb to the top of a tall building, and leap. Goodbye, cruel world.
No I did! You gave me the idea! I FAILED TO PROPERLY CITE MY INFLUENCES PLEASE DON'T LET MY MISTAKE COST YOU YOU LIFE.
And huh, I guess they did mention the gift! Well in that case, I'm surprised they did that!
I can't decide which would better:
1. Leave my name the way it is and keep the running joke.
2. Actually have it changed to NeoGriff. It would be more appropriate, but the illusion would be ruined.
joliefaire
Neo Member
haha, no worries. I climbed back atop the building, gonna sit here and wait in case somebody else disses me.
Anybody got any witty ideas for titles of the final 3 episodes?
haha, no worries. I climbed back atop the building, gonna sit here and wait in case somebody else disses me.
Anybody got any witty ideas for titles of the final 3 episodes?
Yes. The winds of winter for episode ten.
joliefaire
Neo Member
haha, no worries. I climbed back atop the building, gonna sit here and wait in case somebody else disses me.
Anybody got any witty ideas for titles of the final 3 episodes?
I have no ideas for episode 8, except maybe "Hardhome". Its fairly predictable and not very clever, though.
Depending on whether Cersei's Walk is in episode 9 or 10 I'd go for "A Lion Still Has Claws". It could have a double meaning for something Tyrion gets up to...
maybe finally coming out of his drunken depression and using some of his old wit to get into Dany's good graces?
"For the Watch" seems too good not to be one, so I'd have to put that forward for episodes 9 and 10, too.
Steelyuhas
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My final three from back when we were guessing before any of them came out:
508 - The Cold Winds are Rising
509 - God of Death
510 - The White Raven
508 - The Cold Winds are Rising
509 - God of Death
510 - The White Raven
bengraven
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A lot of people on various sites are saying that they never expected The Gift to be referenced in the show, but I could have sworn it was brought up in a conversation between Bran and Jojen back in Season 3. Am I crazy?
Lol.
Ok, I wouldn't go that far. But yeah, you're on the right track.
Well maybe I misinterpreted what you said. It was something like "if only". ha
biosnake20
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Number 1 is the right option.
hammertomb
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Anybody not watching season 5 in case of twow spoilers?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Nah, I'm going to watch. They'll be all over the internet anyway, and it's probably better to just be spoiled by the show than some random .gif.
edit: Also, just because it happens one way in the show, doesn't mean it'll be the same in the book.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Guesses for the final three episodes:
508 - Coldhands
509 - For Shame, Cersei
510 - Kelly C Rides Dragon
I'll do what I did last season and check in the thread after each episode to see if there are book spoilers, and if so, how big they are.
508 - Coldhands
509 - For Shame, Cersei
510 - Kelly C Rides Dragon
I'll do what I did last season and check in the thread after each episode to see if there are book spoilers, and if so, how big they are.
I was looking back at the second trailer and had a thought.
The part where Stannis says "This is the time, and I will risk everything" could be the beginning of the show version of the "cart before the horse" speech. I can just imagine that he and Davos are in Stannis' tent on the way to wherever their battle is taking place, and Davos is expressing doubts at such a bold military action, e.g. "We cannot take such a risk now, Your Grace. Let us wait and regroup our forces until the right time", to which Stannis replies:
"This is the time, and I will risk everything. You may be a man of humble birth, Ser Davos, but you reminded me of my duty. I had the cart before the horse. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne.
"
Ok never mind the spoilered bit - I couldn't resist. But I could see the speech happening here. Of course... now it's not going to happen because that'd be too good.
The part where Stannis says "This is the time, and I will risk everything" could be the beginning of the show version of the "cart before the horse" speech. I can just imagine that he and Davos are in Stannis' tent on the way to wherever their battle is taking place, and Davos is expressing doubts at such a bold military action, e.g. "We cannot take such a risk now, Your Grace. Let us wait and regroup our forces until the right time", to which Stannis replies:
"This is the time, and I will risk everything. You may be a man of humble birth, Ser Davos, but you reminded me of my duty. I had the cart before the horse. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne.
The north remembers, Ser Davos. The north remembers Eddard and Robb Stark. The mummer's farce is almost done, and when it is, the north will remember who delivered it from Roose Bolton and his bastard.
Ok never mind the spoilered bit - I couldn't resist. But I could see the speech happening here. Of course... now it's not going to happen because that'd be too good.
cartoon_soldier
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We have no idea even what is going to happen in Winterfell due to the shooting location. And I live that.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
509: Gravengeance!
Incandenza
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508: Go Hard or Go Home
509: And Moon Boy For All I Know
510: Much...
601: ...And More
509: And Moon Boy For All I Know
510: Much...
601: ...And More
bengraven
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So are we maybe getting
or will that be next season? We have already confirmed
but since that's going to be earlier in the season, you know HBO is going to want something bigger. And if we're not getting
, then I suppose we're getting the big one.
Looking forward to seeing how it plays out. There are perhaps a lot of major characters in play in this battle if they take out some parts of the book where some characters are away. More than any battle before?
. I don't know, just speculating.
"The North remembers Robb Stark. But I forget that little thing about leeches and traitors..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrBFiwnIF0
the Battle of Winterfell
Hardhome
Mereen
Looking forward to seeing how it plays out. There are perhaps a lot of major characters in play in this battle if they take out some parts of the book where some characters are away. More than any battle before?
Stannis, Davos?, Theon, Ramsay, Roose?, Melisandre?
"The North remembers Robb Stark. But I forget that little thing about leeches and traitors..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrBFiwnIF0
Elio and Linda on changes in Season 5.
I haven't watched it yet, so I'll refrain on commenting on its contents.
I haven't watched it yet, so I'll refrain on commenting on its contents.
I thought Hardhome was confirmed for Episode 8 or 9 (can't remember exactly) in that Day in the Life special?
Hardhome is Episode 8 apparently
Which is pretty strong evidence that we won't be having having a Winterfell battle this season.
Steelyuhas
Member
Stannis is the Night's King confirmed
I'm feeling pretty confident at this point that some version of the battle of ice is included.
Roose's actor also mentioned a battle. I mean, he could be talking about a plot line than his own, but I doubt it. A few weeks ago I thought they were taking the North pretty slow, but I think all the recent evidence has pointed against that. I think we're getting an unabridged version of Feast/Dance, with the resolution up North included, and the post-Daznak plot in Meereen basically written out. With Arya making it to Mercy, and Aegon's invasion omitted, that gets us to about where Dance was supposed to end before it got too long and the ending was cut.
ToyMachine228
Member
I could honestly see them leaving the battle just like the end of Dance. About to happen.
biosnake20
Member
They talk about:
Cersei being whitewashed(which I can agree with to a certain extent)
Dany being whitewashed(completely disagree with)
Mance glamour story being gone(which i'm glad about)
Varys' motivations changing because of fAegon being cut(not entirely sure if he is being fully honest with Tyrion just yet)
Dany being whitewashed(completely disagree with)
Mance glamour story being gone(which i'm glad about)
Varys' motivations changing because of fAegon being cut(not entirely sure if he is being fully honest with Tyrion just yet)
They're overly critical as usual.
bodyofanamerican
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pieatorium
Member
totally agree about Dany actually, show has been pushing her as savior pretty hard imo
Killing Janos is easy. Its referring to his treatment of Sam and Gilly.
But none of that Oldtown stuff is going to happen...
I don't think Dany really loses her savior veneer in the books until Dance, so I don't think that's much of a problem yet. If she still feels that way at the end of this season, then yeah, they have a problem, but not yet.
badcrumble
Member
I'll be pretty excited if we do get the resolution to the Winterfell business this season, even if it's obviously going to be playing out very differently from the books.
I think the character who dies early has a reasonably good chance of being Brienne, tbh, especially since the odds are good (with no Lady Stoneheart and probably no Brotherhood without Banners) that she's going to go get mixed up with all of the drama in the North.
I think the character who dies early has a reasonably good chance of being Brienne, tbh, especially since the odds are good (with no Lady Stoneheart and probably no Brotherhood without Banners) that she's going to go get mixed up with all of the drama in the North.
badcrumble
Member
http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/23/8277315/game-of-thrones-show-will-spoil-books
Weiss & Benioff confirming that yes, the show is totally going to spoil events from future books. Obviously wasn't ever gonna be any other way, but I'm glad they're admitting it.
Weiss & Benioff confirming that yes, the show is totally going to spoil events from future books. Obviously wasn't ever gonna be any other way, but I'm glad they're admitting it.
Pretty much expected this.
I'm still watching.
Just sucks I have to be 100% internet free from the East Coast airing since I won't see it for another four hours due to my stupid cable company.
BobTheFork
Member
The talk on this page has me wondering about event timing. So we don't seem to be expecting the battle in the Snow...which means they are going to rush Dany out of Mereen but keep Stanning at the wall the whole season?
I've been assuming the battle in the snow happens and we aren't going to get a pick letter tease, just see the result.
I've been assuming the battle in the snow happens and we aren't going to get a pick letter tease, just see the result.
biosnake20
Member
US premier is tonight in San Francisco, theres supposed to be a new BTS video/trailer following it.
Exterminieren
Banned
I think the Northern plot lines will be changed to the extent that we aren't going to get a straight up Battle in the Snow.
I couldn't see the Pink Letter happening on screen anyway, particularly with the adaptational change happening at Hardhome.
HBO is live streaming the red carpet on their facebook page tonight starting at 6pm PDT.
Guys, the Pink Letter already happened, we've been talking about it all over the last page.
So, you could say D&D stayed surprisingly close to the source material.
Just as in the books, it was sent in anger by a mystery character to the figurehead of authority (Jon/D&D). We don't know who it's from or exactly what its contents mean or involve... but it bodes ill.
So, you could say D&D stayed surprisingly close to the source material.
Bastards,
Your false show is a lie, bastards. It and all of its ratings will tank within seven days of my character's false death. Tell that to Cogman. Your false show's fans will abandon you, their Twitter accounts blasting angry tirades at you for your crimes. Log in and see them, bastards. Your false show lied, and so did you. You told the world you would be faithful to the books. Instead you killed my character in episode fucking four. I will have my role back. If you want your show and its fans back back, write me back in. I have copies of your scripts, for all the internet to see, proof of your lies. They suck, but I have made a series of notes about how to fix them through expanding the role of my character. I want my role back. I want the book plot. I want all my scenes. I want all my dialogue. I want all my speeches. And I want this show not to suck. Send me new scripts, bastards, and I will not trouble you. Leave me dead, and I will cut out your bastards' hearts and eat them.
Ian McElhinney, Trueborn Star behind the hit Character Ser Barristan Selmy in Game of Thrones Seasons Six and Seven, because he totally lives.
Your false show is a lie, bastards. It and all of its ratings will tank within seven days of my character's false death. Tell that to Cogman. Your false show's fans will abandon you, their Twitter accounts blasting angry tirades at you for your crimes. Log in and see them, bastards. Your false show lied, and so did you. You told the world you would be faithful to the books. Instead you killed my character in episode fucking four. I will have my role back. If you want your show and its fans back back, write me back in. I have copies of your scripts, for all the internet to see, proof of your lies. They suck, but I have made a series of notes about how to fix them through expanding the role of my character. I want my role back. I want the book plot. I want all my scenes. I want all my dialogue. I want all my speeches. And I want this show not to suck. Send me new scripts, bastards, and I will not trouble you. Leave me dead, and I will cut out your bastards' hearts and eat them.
Ian McElhinney, Trueborn Star behind the hit Character Ser Barristan Selmy in Game of Thrones Seasons Six and Seven, because he totally lives.
I have a theory that it was really Finn Jones who wrote it though you can tell by some of the subtle choices in diction
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