They're betting big on Westworld, can't think of any other blockbuster shows in the pipeline.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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They're betting big on Westworld, can't think of any other blockbuster shows in the pipeline.
Well, this year, Dave Hill is a writer on the show.
bodyofanamerican
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And correct me if I'm wrong, Westworld's been a developmental nightmare, no?
RatskyWatsky
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Steelyuhas
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Yeah, but that seems shockingly common for HBO dramas. GoT's original pilot was disastrous and it's HBO's most successful show of all time.
Yes.pls b gud westworld
Believe!
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un33dab@dpu$$y
This is my favorite post in the thread.
Olly is the Night's King
Atraveller
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He's a completely pointless character, the physical embodiment of "why D&D".
Important book characters were cut or killed left and right, and somehow he survived? Why?
biosnake20
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Slightly updated description for episode 1 from AT&T UVerse:
She isn't receiving money from them. She translates the show into swedish so she is probably paid by HBO Nordic which does not produce the show and is run by different people.
You also don't have to like something to translate it and it's just 10 episodes per year, it's not like this job is the reason she has a roof over her head and food on her plate.
So that Jon can slynt him after he returns?
I've had an awful thought...
What if, come the end, Sansa gets stabbed, and falls into a coma. The maesters tell Jon she will be ok, then suddenly Jon is forced to kill her to put her out of her misery after she suffers from an aneurism leaving her brain dead.
Jon leaves his life and becomes a lumberjack.
In all seriousness, it's a slightly worrying that between GRRM, D&D and HBO suits, no one quite knows how they end this thing, when and where the show should end. Imagine undoing all the hard work....
What if, come the end, Sansa gets stabbed, and falls into a coma. The maesters tell Jon she will be ok, then suddenly Jon is forced to kill her to put her out of her misery after she suffers from an aneurism leaving her brain dead.
Jon leaves his life and becomes a lumberjack.
In all seriousness, it's a slightly worrying that between GRRM, D&D and HBO suits, no one quite knows how they end this thing, when and where the show should end. Imagine undoing all the hard work....
When does Gilly's baby fall off the treadmill and become Tormund Giantsbane?
Oldest Snake
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Fear not, when he arrives in Dorne or King's Landing and they want him to have a sex scene he'll suddenly have been 18 all along.
Season 6 is when the sister usually starts catching romantic feelings for her brother, should be a good time then
I took that more as a suggestion of the conflict over what's to be done with his remains, as seen in the trailers and the Davos clip released.
Cornballer
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- Via Watchers, Emilia Clarke on Conan last night
- The Shortlist interview with Iwan Rheon
- Jonathan Pryce interview with Newsweek
- The Shortlist interview with Iwan Rheon
- Jonathan Pryce interview with Newsweek
Steely is on it. It'll go up Sunday at the earliest.
It wouldn't surprise me to see them slightly truncated and have the series end with two 8 episode seasons or something like that. I imagine this might also be a negotiation tactic on their part. The amount that goes into the show at this point is staggering, and as the scale increases, it's more difficult for them to put out 10 episodes on an annual basis.
Benioff said:
Yup. It's similar to a lot of HBO's recent dramas (see: Lewis & Clark, True Detective, Vinyl, etc...). I can understand some of the complaints about the writing on GoT, but on the overall production side D&D continue to keep the show on course. They're running a massive production and as far as I know they're hitting their deadlines and budgets year after year. Of course, with the ratings the way they are and the anemic alternatives from HBO's drama department, HBO brass aren't likely to complain about production issues if they have them.
I didn't think of the negotiating angle, but yeah since season 8 isn't formally contracted for yet, they probably have to play as reluctant to do it as they can to get HBO to be as generous as possible. And since the last seasons really will be action and battle heavy, they probably really do need fewer episodes so they can do the multiple weeks-long shoots for battle scenes, but I agree something like 8 and 8 is way more likely than the 7 and 6 they're proposing here.
Steelyuhas
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Yeah I doubt the numbers are finalized by any means (Benioff said as much in the interview), but it sounds like a win-win for D&D and HBO. They get to basically name the amount of episodes they want left and likely get some more production flexibility than they currently have with less episodes to produce in a year. HBO still gets the show on their air for two more years.
Cornballer
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- EW is doing a GoT podcast this year with Hibberd and Franich
The first episode is up. Hibberd talks in vague terms about the premiere and the red carpet stuff.
The first episode is up. Hibberd talks in vague terms about the premiere and the red carpet stuff.
Is that Franich guy serious? He claims he's been a fan of the books for over ten years, but then puts forward the ridiculous theory that this season's big battle (as teased in the trailers) will be Boltons vs. Lannisters.
I get the feeling that this podcast is more in the vein of what EW has recently become, which is clickbait and appealing to the masses rather than genuine speculation and reaction (which is inevitable since Hibberd is involved).
Does anyone else listen to Cast of Kings podcast? It's with a book reader (Joanne Robinson) and a show-only watcher (Dave Chen). Listening today, I was surprised to hear that Dave is still dubious about Jon's resurrection. That's why I wondered if it was the book readers pushing that narrative or the show watchers as well.
Either way, I listen to too many ASoIaF and GoT podcasts already. I have no interest in an Entertainment Weekly one. Blerg.
I listen to A Cast of Kings, A Storm of Spoilers, And Watch the Thrones and then Radio Westeros and History of Westeros. I tried Unspoiled: A Song of Ice and Fire but the guy is just too annoying. Couldn't stand him.
Either way, I listen to too many ASoIaF and GoT podcasts already. I have no interest in an Entertainment Weekly one. Blerg.
I listen to A Cast of Kings, A Storm of Spoilers, And Watch the Thrones and then Radio Westeros and History of Westeros. I tried Unspoiled: A Song of Ice and Fire but the guy is just too annoying. Couldn't stand him.
I mean, after Ramsay rekills Jon and takes Sansa back as his wife, he'll be out of enemies to dominate up North. He'll pretty much have to march south and kill all the Lannisters to keep himself entertained. Then season 7 can be about Ramsay killing Dany. It's gonna be pretty cool when he knocks out Drogon with a single punch.
Cornballer
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Making Game of Thrones on S5 as they work through those episodes:
- 50 Surprising Things About Season 5 - Pt 1
- 50 Surprising Things About Season 5 - Pt 2
- 50 Surprising Things About Season 5 - Pt 1
- 50 Surprising Things About Season 5 - Pt 2
His knife-like hands can shatter white walkers, and his piercing cries can topple The Wall.
VenomousCoffee
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So in anticipation of the new season, I have been rewatching seasons 3 and 4. I still think they are both generally excellent, but there are two things I don't really understand. Well, two that are bothering me right now. I'm a show watcher, book skimmer (and that's only where I picked up the books where season 3 stops, when I just had to find out what happens next), btw.
1) Why do the Lannisters let Stannis sit at Dragonstone unmolested after beating him at the Blackwater? They have more men and far more boats, and he's really quite close to KL.
2) At Joffrey's wedding feast, why did they need to use Sansa to sneak in the poison? Aren't the guards more likely to search Sansa than Lady Olenna?
1) Why do the Lannisters let Stannis sit at Dragonstone unmolested after beating him at the Blackwater? They have more men and far more boats, and he's really quite close to KL.
2) At Joffrey's wedding feast, why did they need to use Sansa to sneak in the poison? Aren't the guards more likely to search Sansa than Lady Olenna?
Basileus777
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The Lannisters don't have a fleet. Stannis had control of the Royal Navy and while that has mostly been destroyed, the Lannisters would have to build ships to take Dragonstone (which is what Cersei does in the books).
Sansa was used to implicate Tyrion in the poisoning. And it also makes it so that Sansa has no choice but to play along with Littlefinger because she's wanted for regicide.
VenomousCoffee
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I'll buy 1, but for 2, they can implicate Sansa just as easily without actually putting the poison in the necklace.
I realize it's a small detail compared to, say, the NW letting a child give Jon the final stab, but it's bothered me for a long time.
I realize it's a small detail compared to, say, the NW letting a child give Jon the final stab, but it's bothered me for a long time.
I think it's also just to separate themselves from the poisoning by multiple degrees. Littlefinger has an agent give it to Dontos who gives it to Sansa. That way if Sansa is caught and questioned, she would have to flip on Dontos, who would have to flip on Littlefinger's guy, who would have to flip on Littlefinger himself before it got back to anyone important. And this way Olenna is only in danger during the few minutes between snatching the poison off of Sansa and making the kill, rather than having some Tyrell agent hold the poison before the wedding and be at risk that whole time.
On the Stannis thing, it's also important that they couldn't pull men off of the war with Robb to go engage in a long and costly siege on Stannis just to deliver a finishing blow to a guy who is no longer an immediate threat. And by the time things are done with Robb, there's a relatively short period for them to have pulled their guys out of the Riverlands, gotten them onto boats, and sailed to Dragonstone before Stannis left.
The show messes with the chronology a bit in ways this make this all fit a little less well. In the books Stannis heads to the Wall almost immediately after the Red Wedding, as soon as Davos shows him the letter from the Watch, instead of spending a while gathering men and getting bank loans like he does in the show. And in the books, as soon as she's able, Cersei does launch a missions to retake both Dragonstone and Storm's End from the handful of men Stannis has left behind there, and even then both of those turn into long, protracted sieges because they're well-defended castles.
There's a lot more detail in the books as to why the poison was on Sansa's person, which the show didn't include.
VenomousCoffee
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Wow, I had forgotten Loras getting boiling oil (??) poured over in the siege.
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Maybe he should have taught her how to hold it.
You can clearly see it's a stunt double until it shows him finishing a flourish. But yea, even with what little of him is real is far better than the sandsnake. She just looks goofy, even at full speed some of the time.
Well I was thinking back on previous episodes and it seems like everyone's worried about the dead coming back no matter how they died or how long they've been died, but fire destroys the wights pretty well.
Dragon glass and valyrian steel destroys the whitewalkers.
Assuming new whitewalkers aren't being made by the hundreds, killing the Night's King or all of them will probably lead to one of those gigantic magic shockwaves you see in movies where all the wights fall down dead.
Dragon glass and valyrian steel destroys the whitewalkers.
Assuming new whitewalkers aren't being made by the hundreds, killing the Night's King or all of them will probably lead to one of those gigantic magic shockwaves you see in movies where all the wights fall down dead.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Turning tricks down in Flea Bottom
They will be disappointed.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Wasn't there rumors or leaks regarding:
Him joining up with the Ironborns again?
I'm guessing he ends up dead in the Season Finale...by Jon Snow and if not by him than regarding the leak/rumor
His Uncle/Sister or Sam
Theon is going with Yara to Volantis (we an see her there from the trailers), and probably thence to Slaver's Bay.
Oldest Snake
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Is a visit to Volantis confirmed? Seems weird for the Iron Born to go across the Narrow Sea when Dany already had the ships Viccy is taking to her in the books, which in turn is why we all assumed he had been cut from the show.
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