He was stupid enough to go there with Bronn in the first place to kidnap her right? Don't see why not.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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He was stupid enough to go there with Bronn in the first place to kidnap her right? Don't see why not.
Last Hearth
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What an absolute mess of a season. Almost none of the best moments of books 4/5 made it. No "Fire and Blood" speech, no "The North Remembers", no "Stark Men!", no "Forgive me" in the Godswood, no Frey Pies, no "With a trebuchet", I could go on but why bother.
Instead we got Jaime's pointless trip to Dorne, Sansa unnecessarily raped by Ramsey, Stannis gets raped by D&D, I don't know WTF happened with Melissandre.
TWOW better come out before next season is all I have to say.
Instead we got Jaime's pointless trip to Dorne, Sansa unnecessarily raped by Ramsey, Stannis gets raped by D&D, I don't know WTF happened with Melissandre.
TWOW better come out before next season is all I have to say.
So almost all my favorite characters are dead. Two died this episode, sure, there's a chance Jon will be resurrected. Not sure if I believe it anymore, though.
I'm really disappointed with Barristan's and Stannis' deaths this season. Feels like they wasted two amazing characters and two amazing actors.
I think the biggest problem with the show is that it's overbearingly depressing. At least in the books there's always a bit of hope that keeps you going for more. Stannis might still win the battle of Ice, and it's very ambiguous whether Jon even died at all.
This episode kinda killed my excitement for the next season. If anything it's got me more excited for Winds of Winter. I want a better ending for characters like Stannis and Barristan. I was a really big fan of the show but this season had me kind of 'ugh'.
Mostly because of how sad everything is.
I'm really disappointed with Barristan's and Stannis' deaths this season. Feels like they wasted two amazing characters and two amazing actors.
I think the biggest problem with the show is that it's overbearingly depressing. At least in the books there's always a bit of hope that keeps you going for more. Stannis might still win the battle of Ice, and it's very ambiguous whether Jon even died at all.
This episode kinda killed my excitement for the next season. If anything it's got me more excited for Winds of Winter. I want a better ending for characters like Stannis and Barristan. I was a really big fan of the show but this season had me kind of 'ugh'.
Mostly because of how sad everything is.True. But I think it's pretty clear his storyline will take him back to Kings Landing.
Anton Sugar
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Will the show explain why all of Mel's tricky magic worked before, but not this time? Or was it more that "it worked" (the weather cleared up) but other shit occurred that she did not foresee?
What the show needs to explain is that she's awful at her job and all the visions pointed to Jon, not Stannis, and I'm not sure they can do it right knowing how bad the show is at hinting subtle things.
Yep.
Also, any speculation on what's her name biting Bronn's ear with that awful line? Is he poisoned too?
Ganzlinger
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Congrats to D&D for fucking up the arcs of Sansa, Stannis, Theon, Littlefinger, Sand Snakes, Ellaria, Jaime, Myrcella, Barristan, Brienne, Meryn Trant (lol). Am I missing someone?
I think the show is starting to build towards R+L=J. They are hinting at Rhaegar not being a complete asshole capable of raping Lyanna.
Orbis Tabula
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It's weird. Somehow, I enjoyed the finale overall, despite hating almost every single thing that happened. It's strange. But my girlfriend and I have been ranting at each other all day about how much this part sucked or that part was stupid.
New thread! Must be some new news!
How did you watch this ep and not come away thinking Mel is awful at her job?
How did you watch this ep and not come away thinking Mel is awful at her job?
Pyramid head
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I don't think he is, unless it's one of those jokes intended to confuse those around you while simultaniously not being funny.
Anton Sugar
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To be fair, she was batting 1.000 before this!
Uhhh...
Exactly. Ellaria and the Snakes want war. A dead Princess and a captive Prince is a sure fire way to get their wish.
Interceptor
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Question is: Why did Melissandre take the last horse of the entire army only to use her teleport minutes later?
Yeah, Doran fucked up in not round all four up and collecting severed heads.
Huh?
Teleportation requires blood magic. Blood for the blood god and all that. Don't even ask what Littlefinger uses to power his.
Atraveller
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Risking family in the process? Doesn't look like what the book Sand Snakes would do.
Latvian Hitman
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Yep. The show made it clear that Jon is a serious person of interest to Mel, but unless you're aware of her book visions, there's really no context given as to why he's a person of interest.
Stallion Dan
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So why is kings blood so magical anyway?
I mean, Robert, Stannis and co were just regular guys until the rebellion, then Robert becomes king and suddenly the entire bloodline is magical?
WTF?
I mean, Robert, Stannis and co were just regular guys until the rebellion, then Robert becomes king and suddenly the entire bloodline is magical?
WTF?
She hasn't specifically mentioned Azor, but has talked about prophecy, Lightbringer, and "the one true King." I'm guessing this is just the shows way of not making it overly complex for casual viewers. The look on her face when she first sees Jon Snow through flames, plus the scene where she tries to seduce him, are more than enough to show that she sees something in him that she also saw in Stannis.
It's also possible that her visions aren't always clear (ie: her talk of a battle in the snow with "Stannis" standing victorious). Maybe she was seeing Jon that entire time in the flames and was just thinking it was Stannis because of his royal blood. Or because they both have beards.
These aren't book Sand Snakes...
She also gave that whole naked speech to Selyse about how some of her tricks are bullshit mummery. Plus she just recently failed to seduce Jahn Snu even though she's a redhead.
Is it even magical at all?
Robert and Stannis have Targaryen blood.
It's probably all about Targaryen blood.
BreezyLimbo
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Ganzlinger
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R'hllor is a fucked up god. Drowned God is the best god.
Latvian Hitman
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Targ blood? Yessir, it is.
I actually don't believe that King's blood is magical at all. And Mel's god is actually some sort of chaos demon. It isn't a matter of sacrificing King's blood to get power, but rather, killing people who by chain of events, will eventually throw Westeros into complete turmoil. The murdering of those with 'King's' blood furthers the purpose of her chaos demon overlord (who eventually seeks to enslave all of Westeros in his false religion).
m_shortpants
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The Baratheons have Targaryen blood. Whether that even means anything remains to be seen.
toastyToast
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Anton Sugar
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True. Jon displayed strength there that I would not have.
I did love the Ultimate Cold Shoulder that Stannis gave her.
Can you imagine if next season they just used all the book material they cut/skipped this season and we get nothing from TWOW.
I can see it:
-Jaime spending another season in Dorne
-Daenerys stuck for 5-6 episodes with the Dothraki then another 3 episodes learning how to control Drogon.
-Generally a whole lot of nothing happening everywhere else.
I can see it:
-Jaime spending another season in Dorne
-Daenerys stuck for 5-6 episodes with the Dothraki then another 3 episodes learning how to control Drogon.
-Generally a whole lot of nothing happening everywhere else.
cartoon_soldier
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Mel realizing Stannis is not the one is great
I just don't see Jon not being rezzed that would be an awful way out
I just don't see Jon not being rezzed that would be an awful way out
Atraveller
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Still stupid af.
This sums up the biggest problem of the season. Why have they added in so much terrible shit and took out all of the good positive moments? Why did they decide for this season to be the darkest ever and be a a constant stream of shitting on the viewer?
Are D & D depressed or suicidal this year?
I think it doesn't matter, this was Robert's reasoning behind the rebellion, but in other cases Mel wants to burn everyone, from the heir of 'king beyond the wall' to Greyjoys (OK, not directly Mel).
HowardRoark
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How about this: the Night's Watch tries to burn Jon's body, but the body doesn't burn. Melissandre is intrigued, spends the season trying to rez him.
cartoon_soldier
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Jon Snow being just dead will mean there was a family called The Starks that pissed of GRRM some day and he wrote the whole series as revenge on them.
Spirit of Jazz
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I really wish I could be bothered to photoshop Victorian onto the whynotboth.gif
Damerman
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Stannis' aunt or great aunt was a targaryan.
Frustrated_me
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Why didn't The King or anyone from the Lannister camp save Cersei from imprisonment?
hendersonhank
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For all the whining about Ramsay, did he have some failures and setbacks in the books that I'm forgetting? Because I remember him coming out ahead every step of the way that we've seen so far.
Those altar boys wearing nothing but linen cloths and armed with billyclubs were too much for the Kings Guard.
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