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US Vice-Presidential Debates 2016 |OT| Your Big Awkward Family Reunion
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God damn it. Yeah, that one
YES, SIS. YES
EXACTLY RIGHT.
Kaine wins the post debate. Pence is gonna get slaughtered tomorrow.
where have you been? 
wat
"I know you are but what am I"
Not only that, but he didn't let Pence take any attention away from the mess that Trump is in. Even if he "lost" the battle he won the warYES, SIS. YES
EXACTLY RIGHT.
Kaine wins the post debate. Pence is gonna get slaughtered tomorrow.
where have you been?
Yup. Especially cause, through it all, through Kaine's unrelenting barrage, Pence couldn't really get in any epic sound bites.
The story going forward will be attack dog Kaine, and all the associated sound bites. I've said early in the thread, its already started. My local news all they showed was a "whats the deal with Trumps taxes" soundbite.
fallingdove
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I agree completely. But it is not unique to Trump supporters. The same is true for all supporters. This candidate's agenda fits my lifestyle better than their opponent's so I am going to vote for this candidate. There are always going to be certain groups alienated by this process of electing officials through public opinion.
I mean.....Pence literally wants to legalize torture of LGBT citizens.....the guy is not likeable. He seemed to avoid questions too from my understanding and couldn't give any defenses for Trump and regurgitated a bunch of right-wing lies about how the economy works.....The guy is, to put it politely, a shitstain.
Kaine was the truth-teller of this debate from all I've gathered.
Ninja Scooter
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Mike Pence is human garbage.
Monocle
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Yep, this makes sense. Kaine accomplished what he needed to.
Anyway my take on this debate is that Pence came out looking better short term. He brought the calm to the ticket that Trump so badly needed. Once things are broken down I think it will be more clear that Kaine actually had the better debate where it matters to people that actually swear they are undecided because of being an informed voter wanting all the facts.
But what really matters is that in 5 days most probably won't even be thinking about this debate because nobody really won or loss which I think is what both parties wanted. It's now up to Trump and Clinton to finish this with a win.
But what really matters is that in 5 days most probably won't even be thinking about this debate because nobody really won or loss which I think is what both parties wanted. It's now up to Trump and Clinton to finish this with a win.
Sure, if by "likable" you mean he's very calmly fucking evil then totally.
Already Torn
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Whaaaaat???
He's less likable than Trump. At least I can buy that maybe Trump really doesn't know any better. Pence is just an evil piece of shit.
What
Any other election I would agree with you, but not this one. Trump really is that bad where it won't be so much that some people will be inconvenienced, no, lives will be in ruin and racism is going to be a larger problem than it ever was as Trump tries so hard to shut them all up and emboldens others to think their way of thinking is ok.
MetalGearZed
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if you know nothing about him...maybe i could see it..
Monocle
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Wow, so not only is Hillary running an insult-based campaign, but she has close ties to Putin? Unbelievable! How is she a presidential candidate again???Trump trying to get that reflect on.
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Trump has done so much for this country already. First singehandedly convincing that shifty Obama character to release his birth certificate, then exposing Hillary as a corrupt liar who has to insult her opponents' supporters to get ahead. Incredible!
RustyNails
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Well, he came across likeable.
But you dig deeper and the policies he enacted, he's Satan's offspring. So he hid the monster inside him very well. Also keep in mind that he's been a radio talkshow host for a long time, so he got that communication part down.
But you dig deeper and the policies he enacted, he's Satan's offspring. So he hid the monster inside him very well. Also keep in mind that he's been a radio talkshow host for a long time, so he got that communication part down.
Ay Papi
Big Baybee
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Is this real...?wat
People that tuned in that have no idea about politics or policies and rely completely on optics are going to think Pence won and is even likable. Most of these people weren't going to vote for Clinton anyway because if they are interested in a show, they are going with Trump.
Which does nothing for him in the general election. You need minority voters in the general, and he's fucked himself by being Trumps right hand man. This isn't something he can walk back. Going to be the same shit.
Already Torn
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I don't know how you can look at any of his facial expressions and not see a the kind of guy who leads a community before secretly being exposed as a domestic abuser or murderer.
It's Trump's twitter. The answer to that question is always yes
neurosisxeno
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A lot of people outside of Indiana know literally nothing about him. To them he seems like a humble public servant who was calm and collected, which Kaine seemed like an enthusiastic attack dog.
I never said it would work--just that it's probably what he would do.
Constantly referring to direct Trump quotes as "insults" was cracking me up
ryutaro's mama
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I really want to watch Biden/Ryan again now.
That was the best VP debate since Bentson/Quayle.
That was the best VP debate since Bentson/Quayle.
Of course it's real.
It's been a long time Republican strategy to attack the other side for their own weaknesses. It's why Romney/Ryan came out and started blasting Obama/Biden for wanting to destroy medicare despite Ryan literally trying to do that. They do it all the fucking time. Pence did it this debate when he was trying to say Clinton's campaign was one of insults.
Unsurprisingly, Biden came across as "aggressive" in that too.
That said Ryan was way worse on the mic then Pence and fucking sucked it up.
Version 3.0
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That was my take right at the start of the debate. Pence said "your campaign is so insulting", or something like that. Kaine should've said "most of our ads are just Trump saying awful things".
Same thing during the 1st debate, when Trump whined about mean ads.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Biden was so awesome Hillary is lucky Joe didn't run.
Version 3.0
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wat
Donald Trump's campaign slogan: "NO U"
Ninja Scooter
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Good lord undecideds are the worst.
EatinOlives
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Kaine's job wasn't to be "likeable". His job was to show that Pence has zero answers to any of Trump's abhorrent behaviors and statements. And he succeeded.
Pence's job wasn't to sell himself. His job was to sell Trump has a viable, trustworthy candidate for the presidency. And he failed.
Obviously Kaine's strategy wasn't going to look good at a surface level, but he was specifically instructed to not let any of Pence's bullshit pass unchecked and he did that. They knew that silver-tongued Pence simply couldn't talk his way out of Trump's statements and actions. Starting tomorrow, the narrative will be about all the shit that Pence straight up lied about. By then the whole "but he sounded so soothing!" shit will have already been talked to death.
Pence's job wasn't to sell himself. His job was to sell Trump has a viable, trustworthy candidate for the presidency. And he failed.
Obviously Kaine's strategy wasn't going to look good at a surface level, but he was specifically instructed to not let any of Pence's bullshit pass unchecked and he did that. They knew that silver-tongued Pence simply couldn't talk his way out of Trump's statements and actions. Starting tomorrow, the narrative will be about all the shit that Pence straight up lied about. By then the whole "but he sounded so soothing!" shit will have already been talked to death.
Joe and Trump woulda' settled it in a "skeeving out women" contest.
And look at how small her hands are, not to mention all that orange spray tan.
Gordon Shumway
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Understatement of the decade..
I actually think Pence's job was to make it seem like he wasn't insane and he did a good job. It's that when the VP needs to "look presidential" for the sake of the ticket.
Monocle
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And she's been so loud lately. Very unpresidential.
The best part was where Pence accused Kaine of unleashing an "avalanche of insults" when all Kaine did was quote some of Trump's slams against minorities and such.
Lol I was going to go with a Salem Protestant judge that takes pleasure in sentencing witches.
I don't know him personally, but I know his policies and they are quite disgusting. The dude legit gives me the chills.
ryutaro's mama
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Biden came across as an old school politician schooling a wet behind the ears rookie. All the pent up rage he couldn't spew in 2008 came gushing out in 2012.
Vermillion
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So, I didn't watch the debate... but what I'm getting is Kaine was aggressive while Pence was calm.
But I see lots of people talking about how the style isn't important...
So why was it an issue when Trump was aggressive and Clinton was calm?
But I see lots of people talking about how the style isn't important...
So why was it an issue when Trump was aggressive and Clinton was calm?
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