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[Subpar Spatula]

Your point is "I can do everything you do" and I'm saying people in your situation generally don't because it's a hassle. And you're not disproving my point with your own anecdotes as you aren't doing the same things I am.

I don't know what your other points were as you've either been arguing semantics or this main point of being able to do everything else.

Also I am making use of time right now. I have GAF, a video podcast, and Xcode open right now. Multi-tasking

You say they don't but have no evidence. I am disproving your anecdotes with my anecdotes: your anecdotes are meaningless so your point is meaningless. Similar to how you say people in the suburbs don't go because it's a hassle, I can say the sky train is pact on game day with people from the suburbs. Counter that one, eh? You're making dumb arguments to support a dumb argument. You are actually arguing whether or not people can attend events if they live in the suburbs.

You're actually wasting plenty of time in this discussion. It's bad time management unless you actually value this conversation.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Sometimes I feel Tabris just came from /r/vancouver and loves to fight about how he lives in Vancouver compared to the unwashed masses in the suburbs

 

[FyreWulff]

Sometimes I feel Tabris just came from /r/vancouver and loves to fight about how he lives in Vancouver compared to the unwashed masses in the suburbs

Seriously. I was living in downtown for a bit and.. it's got fucking downsides just like any other situation.

Someone who casually pays scalper prices for tickets, for starters, doesn't seem to have a solid grasp of how money works outside of trust fund kid circles.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Seriously. I was living in downtown for a bit and.. it's got fucking downsides just like any other situation.

Someone who casually pays scalper prices for tickets, for starters, doesn't seem to have a solid grasp of how money works outside of trust fund kid circles.

Absolutely. Who knows, maybe Tabris truly is Patrick Bateman?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I understand other people. I understand the people settled for an inferior lifestyle so they can have a lawn and a big house.

Geez.

 

[Smiley90]

Ever discussion in here ends the same way - a superiority complex to prove. I'm guilty for falling for a discussion, too.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Ever discussion in here ends the same way - a superiority complex to prove. I'm guilty for falling for a discussion, too.

Then again most Vancouverites including myself have a superiority complex when it comes to the city so it's easy to see why the topic is always a vicious circle.

 

[Firestorm]

vancouver rulez
toronto droolz

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

vancouver rulez
toronto droolz

That's why Toronto|OT thread people get along better and they have a lot more meet ups with bigger turn outs?

Begs to ask the question; What makes a city great? The people that live in it or the sites and sounds and tastes a city has to offer?


Also: For those of you ( I am sure there are a few here) who frequent the bars and restaurants in Yaletown, Is the waiter or bartender pushing a double shot of a cocktail on you the standard?

I went to three different bars/restaurants in Yaletown this weekend, I ordered Caesars and vodka tonic at these places, and every time I ordered, I swear all three different bartenders or waiter would go.. "You wanna double right? .. wanna make that a double!?"

"No! no I don't, I'll fuckin let you know if I want a double.. you just make me single vodka tonic unless I tell you otherwise!"

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

That's why Toronto|OT thread people get along better and they have a lot more meet ups with bigger turn outs?

Begs to ask the question; What makes a city great? The people that live in it or the sites and sounds and tastes a city has to offer?


Also: For those of you ( I am sure there are a few here) who frequent the bars and restaurants in Yaletown, Is the waiter or bartender pushing a double shot of a cocktail on you the standard?

I went to three different bars/restaurants in Yaletown this weekend, I ordered Caesars and vodka tonic at these places, and every time I ordered, I swear all three different bartenders or waiter would go.. "You wanna double right? .. wanna make that a double!?"

"No! no I don't, I'll fuckin let you know if I want a double.. you just make me single vodka tonic unless I tell you otherwise!"

Yo dude, you're not homeless anymore, right?

What happened with your whacked out roommate?

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

Yo dude, you're not homeless anymore, right?

What happened with your whacked out roommate?

I got a place for myself in Mt. Pleasant, it's not much, but it'l do for now. I really like Mt. Pleasant, such a beautiful area/ neighborhood, much quieter than any part of downtown I lived in (Coal Harbour, West End or Gastown) . Just South of 12th Between Main and Fraser.

2.5 months ago, after about a month after I left downtown and the crazy roommate, her sister texted me with his cell phone mind you. She was all like...

"Your crazy roommate( my brother) is in rehab and he is pulling through, we will give you your deposit back"... "right is right"... " We haven't forgotten about you, as soon as he get out of rehab we'll get your money, it'll be couple of weeks" ...."blah.. blah"

Two and half months later I still haven't heard anything back from her or him.

Whatever, I've moved on.

 

[Smiley90]

I think "how often members of an online forum
Meet up" is a terrible indicator of a city's quality of life LOL.

One could argue they meet up often because Toronto is so terrible otherwise.

25 MINUTES UNTIL THE GOODBYE HARPER ELECTION PARTY STARTS WOOOO

 

[Liberty4all]

Heh I'm definitely responding to the last page when I get home from work tonight. I have lived both suburban and city lifestyles and can comment on both.

Also, Toronto downtown lifestyle is amazing, equal to van.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

That's why Toronto|OT thread people get along better and they have a lot more meet ups with bigger turn outs?

Begs to ask the question; What makes a city great? The people that live in it or the sites and sounds and tastes a city has to offer?


Also: For those of you ( I am sure there are a few here) who frequent the bars and restaurants in Yaletown, Is the waiter or bartender pushing a double shot of a cocktail on you the standard?

I went to three different bars/restaurants in Yaletown this weekend, I ordered Caesars and vodka tonic at these places, and every time I ordered, I swear all three different bartenders or waiter would go.. "You wanna double right? .. wanna make that a double!?"

"No! no I don't, I'll fuckin let you know if I want a double.. you just make me single vodka tonic unless I tell you otherwise!"

I saw that a lot this past weekend. I didn't say no like you so there's a reason I blacked out.

 

[Tabris]

It's not a dumb argument, it's a valid complaint about suburbia that everything is far away so people are less likely to do as much.

You may like being a homebody but I like to get out and do things without hassle, and I would be one in suburbia.

You may like going shopping in grocery stores crawling with kids (I've never seen a single kid ever in my grocery store at Nesters Gastown) all over the place and moving so slowly because life is slower in suburbia, I don't.

I like presenting facts to a debate like this instead of anecdotal evidence, but it's very hard to find stats on this as google search is full of physical activity instead of general activity between urban and suburban lifestyles. It's a hard one to google.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

It's not a dumb argument, it's a valid complaint about suburbia that everything is far away so people are less likely to do as much.

You may like being a homebody but I like to get out and do things without hassle, and I would be one in suburbia.

You may like going shopping in grocery stores crawling with kids (I've never seen a single kid ever in my grocery store at Nesters Gastown) all over the place and moving so slowly because life is slower in suburbia, I don't.

I like presenting facts to a debate like this instead of anecdotal evidence, but it's very hard to find stats on this as google search is full of physical activity instead of general activity between urban and suburban lifestyles. It's a hard one to google.

If you have zero data and don't like using anecdotes then you shouldn't be having this discussion because it's opposite to your logic.

 

[Liberty4all]

Ok some thoughts.

I have lived in downtown Toronto for years by the CN Tower but I also tried a stint in the suburbs wayy out from Toronto when I had bought a house.


Some advantages of suburbia living:

Space to spread out ... A big deal if you've got kids (I don't).

Affordable housing.

Man room in house bigger than my entire downtown condo.

Amazing big box shopping -- Best Buy, wal mart, Costco, Canadian Tire, etc. Much easier to get to via a car and fill trunk with huge shopping sprees. I also got lots of exercise walking around those mammoth stores.

Easier access to outlet discount shopping.

Cleaner air. To be fair this is probaly a Toronto centric complaint ... The air is pretty nice in downtown Vancouver.

Less noise and light pollution -- means sleeping better.

Much closer to country and country activities (camping, fishing, etc)

Easy and free parking everywhere.


I only lasted 18 months though before I sold the house and fled back to the core.


Downtown Advantages:

Food on demand. Whatever your want usually a 5 min walk

Walking culture. Toronto's core like Vancouver has a walking culture. Markets, festivals, bars, restaurants, minutes away

No commute assuming you work downtown

Many big box stores have opened in the core as well (usually a little smaller but adequate)

Better access to Organic markets usually walking distance.

Can sell your car and save thousands annually



Honestly I love city life but I see the appeal of suburbia especially for families that need space at a non ridiculous price.

 

[The Last Emperor]

In case you didn't figure it out, Tabris is racist lol

This is a troll post btw

 

[Tabris]

That statement is even funnier with the most recent thread I made supporting Canada's backlash to the anti-Muslim movement.

Couldn't be more the opposite. I'm as left-leaning as they get. I'm a socialist. I want a downtown Vancouver for everyone so they don't have to live their inferior suburbanite lifestyles

This is a bit of a troll post too btw

 

[Tabris]

FYI, for the inner nerd and/or child (if you are older) in all of us. The Force Awakens is now sold out on Dec 17th in Vancouver. I luckily got pretty good tickets not in the back section. You may want to get tickets for the 18th before those are sold out as well (still available).

Hopefully Vancouverites go crazy and get dressed up in star wars costumes for us to see. I don't have anything star wars themed to wear.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

We can't afford reserved seating.

 

[Jotamide]

Unfortunately, I'll be out of the country when The Force Awakens and The Hateful Eight premier. I'll do everything it takes to stay unspoiled until January, even close all my social media accounts if I need to!

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

D/P

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

I think "how often members of an online forum
Meet up" is a terrible indicator of a city's quality of life LOL.

One could argue they meet up often because Toronto is so terrible otherwise.

25 MINUTES UNTIL THE GOODBYE HARPER ELECTION PARTY STARTS WOOOO

But that's not what I said, was it? I said people in Vancouver in general are colder, more snobbish, clique than say people in Toronto, inside online forums and outside, on the streets ...

It's not a dumb argument, it's a valid complaint about suburbia that everything is far away so people are less likely to do as much.

You may like being a homebody but I like to get out and do things without hassle, and I would be one in suburbia.

You may like going shopping in grocery stores crawling with kids (I've never seen a single kid ever in my grocery store at Nesters Gastown) all over the place and moving so slowly because life is slower in suburbia, I don't.

I like presenting facts to a debate like this instead of anecdotal evidence, but it's very hard to find stats on this as google search is full of physical activity instead of general activity between urban and suburban lifestyles. It's a hard one to google.

That Nesters is one of the most overpriced and least selection having grocery stores in all of Vancouver (funny enough it's the only place that has my favorite (best quality) whole wheat pita bread for under 2 bucks.. It's funny how random selection and pricing at grocery store works sometimes. )

You say you're not rich, but you constantly brag about geographical convenience, how you love everything in your life within arm's reach... Rich people brag about shit like that...

Frugal or people who care about saving a few bucks, will bike 12 km across town to get the Avocados that are on sale. Just saying, most of us in Vancouver shop around for groceries..

If you're telling me the Nesters store under your building is sufficient for all your grocery shopping needs (price and selection) then I am afraid you cannot qualify to be the voice of the average Vancouverite trying to make it through this city.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

So I was looking into moving to Vancouver some time next year from ireland and had a bit of a meltdown over getting somewhere to stay and getting a job. Anyone any advice to calm me down about it?!

Much appreciated

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

So I was looking into moving to Vancouver some time next year from ireland and had a bit of a meltdown over getting somewhere to stay and getting a job. Anyone any advice to calm me down about it?!

Much appreciated

I don't think that is how Canadian Immigration works... You kinda need to have a good reason or else it will take you ages to get into the country (or you may just not get in at all).

Reasons being ... Job or work offering.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I don't think that is how Canadian Immigration works... You kinda need to have a good reason or else it will take you ages to get into the country (or you may just not get in at all).

Reasons being ... Job or work offering.

2 year working holiday through International Experience Canada, it is how it works for us here in Ireland. I've already been accepted for my visa and I'm in the process of applying for a work permit at the moment. Just need a police certificate from here. It's a fairly standard link we have with Canada and a fair number of people apply and go.

I think this year there was 6000ish visas applied for and accepted for Irish citizens. Don't worry I've researched that part of it! It's what to do if or when I get there that I'm worried about.

 

[Dazzler]

FYI, for the inner nerd and/or child (if you are older) in all of us. The Force Awakens is now sold out on Dec 17th in Vancouver. I luckily got pretty good tickets not in the back section. You may want to get tickets for the 18th before those are sold out as well (still available).

Hopefully Vancouverites go crazy and get dressed up in star wars costumes for us to see. I don't have anything star wars themed to wear.

you going to the 7.30 screening on Thursday at Scotiabank? I'll look out for the well dressed Pat Bateman lookalike

 

[Dazzler]

So I was looking into moving to Vancouver some time next year from ireland and had a bit of a meltdown over getting somewhere to stay and getting a job. Anyone any advice to calm me down about it?!

Much appreciated

Hey I'm from Dublin and have lived in Vancouver for six years. PM me any questions you have!

I've transitioned from the IEC into being a permanent resident. You'll be making an amazing move

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Hey I'm from Dublin and have lived in Vancouver for six years. PM me any questions you have!

I've transitioned from the IEC into being a permanent resident. You'll be making an amazing move

Exactly what I came here hoping for! I'll PM you some things later this evening. Thanks

 

[Tabris]

If you're telling me the Nesters store under your building is sufficient for all your grocery shopping needs (price and selection) then I am afraid you cannot qualify to be the voice of the average Vancouverite trying to make it through this city.

Outside of making a Costco run every couple of months - that Nesters and London Drugs facilitates almost all my non-clothes & electronic purchases.

Also it's not that much of a price difference between that and say Safeway.

I don't think that is how Canadian Immigration works... You kinda need to have a good reason or else it will take you ages to get into the country (or you may just not get in at all).

Reasons being ... Job or work offering.

So it's a bit unique for some countries where it's actually very easy to spend 2 years in Canada. Almost all commonwealth countries have a deal where you can basically get a visa right away if you are between 20 and 30 years old and live within those countries. You don't need a job lined up or family or anything. I think they just do a security look up. It's meant to be the "broaden your horizons" visa.

I don't think the US has any agreement like that with any country.

 

[Smiley90]

It's not just the commonwealth - agreements are basically Europe-wide. You can eg get it from Germany, too.

 

[Firestorm]

Yeah, I've been considering doing it too. I met a bunch of people when backpacking Europe who were basically on their way to do the same or on a short trip to a different country while based in London or wherever. I'm running out of time though. Already 27 and you have to be 30 or under to be eligible.

 

[Liberty4all]

So I was looking into moving to Vancouver some time next year from ireland and had a bit of a meltdown over getting somewhere to stay and getting a job. Anyone any advice to calm me down about it?!

Much appreciated

I just moved from Toronto to Vancouver for work (6mth contract) and went the homestay route. Type in "homestay Vancouver" and a bunch of sites will pop up. Basically for anywhere from 700 - 1000 a month you get a furnished room and ALL meals included plus usually run of the house (internet, cable tv, etc). The includes meals is a biggie, worth at least 300 a month itself.

Factoring in savings on food its a really cheap way to go without having to invest in furniture and sign a lease.

Just be aware not all homestays are created equal, some are money grabs by landlords who will ram as many tenants as they can into a home, some may have shit food, etc ...

Key is to make sure the homestay family actually lives in the home and ideally there aren't too many other guests. With that said, my homestay has 5 guests ... 1 Korean, 2 Chinese, a Brazilian, and me. Its actually nice having people around to socialize with and the house we are in is huge so its not stifling plus I have a huge room to myself. Typically homestayers are international students so you wont have the typical demographic normally looking for sub 500 accommodations.

Be aware if homestaying you are not protected under the tenant act and may be at the mercy of "house rules" ... Rules like what time door gets locked at night, when you can do laundry etc .... Still its a cheap way to go. Dont pay weekly insist on a monthly fee.

Here are two good sites: https://www.vancouverhomestays.org/

http://vancouver.homestaybay.com/en


Regarding jobs, I am an Employment Case Manager. Unless you have a work visa and SIN you wont be able to access the majority of WorkBC employment programs. From what I've seen though there is a massive labour shortage in this city from low paying jobs all the way up to high paying. If you are ok with factory work, construction, food services, retail, you will find work. Although you wont be able to see a case manager you can still access WorkBC employment centers for job postings and use of internet/computers to send out resumes.

https://www.workbc.ca/

Also I hate Columbia station. We dont have same track interchanges in Toronto. While typing this out I got on the wrong train and ended up back in surrey. I didn't realize until I got to king George lol. The second time I've done that argh.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

Also: For those of you ( I am sure there are a few here) who frequent the bars and restaurants in Yaletown, Is the waiter or bartender pushing a double shot of a cocktail on you the standard?

I went to three different bars/restaurants in Yaletown this weekend, I ordered Caesars and vodka tonic at these places, and every time I ordered, I swear all three different bartenders or waiter would go.. "You wanna double right? .. wanna make that a double!?"

I haven't had it pushed on me too hard, but it is definitely brought up, haha. Which ones did you hit up?

I work in the area so I've been to most at some point or another. Parlour is easily the best, in my experience.

 

[ZimJaBim]

Hi,

How is wind mobile coverage in Vancouver area? Need to switch my mobile plan.

Thanks,

 

[Cheerilee]

Hi,

How is wind mobile coverage in Vancouver area? Need to switch my mobile plan.

Thanks,

It's spotty. It works for me because it works at my home and it works at my work, but I've heard that isn't the case for everyone. Also, I don't live on my phone, so when I'm out somewhere and find that maybe I'm unreachable for half an hour, I shrug and don't care.

Basically, how in love with your phone are you? Do you need LTE download speeds? If you do, suck it up and pay one of the big three.

Do you love a great deal (and hate being metered)? Then try Wind. Test it anywhere that you spend time, and if it doesn't work for you, cancel within their return period (it's like two weeks, or a certain number of minutes, whichever comes first). If you buy a phone from them, you can return it, and if you brought your own phone, you'll probably want to make sure it works on Wind's network (not all phones do).

 

[amchardy]

So what's Yaletown like to live in? There seems to be a good supply of apartments but I know next to nothing about the area.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

So what's Yaletown like to live in? There seems to be a good supply of apartments but I know next to nothing about the area.

Currently there now. Easy access to food and restaurants though most are a bit pricey. You will also live right off of Canada Line which gives you an option for transit.

There is Granville nearby for more quick cheaper not as fancy food options. Lots of bars at night. The clientele in Yaletown is a bit more upper class. This is mainly due to the cost of living in the area. The area isn't cheap. In the Downtown core it is the second most expensive area after Coal Harbour.

Small grocery stores around the area including Urban Fare, Choices, Nesters. No big grocery store unless you cross over Cambie St bridge and stuff.

Yaletown is super close to the Rogers Arena and BC Place as well.

At night lots of drunk young rich people. Just be warned. Some can be douchebags. Had a friend punch in the chest and stuff taken out of his hands right in the middle of Yaletown at night.

It's generally a nice area though.

 

[trifelife]

So what's Yaletown like to live in? There seems to be a good supply of apartments but I know next to nothing about the area.

Yaletown is a superficial garbage dump with not a lot to do, especially for what you're going to pay.

 

[Tabris]

So which of you is this person:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMTkd8JtWdU

Subpar? trifelife? Smiley?

 

[Smiley90]

So which of you is this person:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMTkd8JtWdU

Subpar? trifelife? Smiley?

Wearing a toque, obviously Desi.


Also, that's the girl from the LeendaD (or something) youtube channel, right? My gf and me saw her at a restaurant last week and my gf went all OMG IT'S THE FAMOUS YOUTUBE GIRL LET ME TAKE A PICTURE lol

 

[trifelife]

So which of you is this person:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMTkd8JtWdU

Subpar? trifelife? Smiley?

Haha I love Vancouver!

I am basically wearing that exact toque though.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

So which of you is this person:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMTkd8JtWdU

Subpar? trifelife? Smiley?

Someone's a bit bitter.

It's funny, though, that we're at a point where we've got to make videos to make Vancouver less boring and one of the highlights is our crappy beaches and Capilano Suspension Bridge.

 

[Smiley90]

Tabris doesn't know the suspension bridge, it's not downtown or at Kits and he doesn't go further than that

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

How's the parking situation at the Waldorf? My cousin got me a ticket to the Halloween party there and I don't feel like taking transit.

Also, how's that whole area there? Safeish?

 

[Silver Arrows]

Tabris doesn't know the suspension bridge, it's not downtown or at Kits and he doesn't go further than that

I wonder if he goes to Whistler?

 

[Smiley90]

How's the parking situation at the Waldorf? My cousin got me a ticket to the Halloween party there and I don't feel like taking transit.

Also, how's that whole area there? Safeish?

It's perfectly fine, there's not much going on around it, pretty industrial. Worst case you'll see a hooker or a coyote a few blocks around it.

AFAIK there is parking (as it's both a hotel and a restaurant and also has concerts) but I dont remember how much

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Moved into my permanent place in Coal Harbour yesterday. I love it. Also had Goldie's for the first time yesterday. It was great.

 

[Smiley90]

Moved into my permanent place in Coal Harbour yesterday. I love it. Also had Goldie's for the first time yesterday. It was great.

Goldie's? The street-vendor pizza place? I actually love that place, it's non-American thin-crust pizza by the slice! So good.