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[Miyazaki’s Slave]

I don't have kids personally, buy folks I know do and their kids are CONSTANTLY on facetime with their friends when they are playing games.

I gave an ipad mini to one of them for xmas and they use it as a "second screen" with their iphone...they facetime on that and play on their phone.

Nintendo is doing the right thing here imo. I give Sony 6 to 7 months until they announce their version.

**Sony already has this feature apparently. I haven't played a multiplayer game with other folks on console in a very long time!
You can do this from the console but you cannot initiate it from the portal...which makes sense since the portal is just a streaming device.

 

[SweetTooth]

I have been doing that on PS5 for ages .. at 1080p/60

Also whats with that toy camera Nintendo? Lol

 

[SweetTooth]

I don't have kids personally, buy folks I know do and their kids are CONSTANTLY on facetime with their friends when they are playing games.

I gave an ipad mini to one of them for xmas and they use it as a "second screen" with their iphone...they facetime on that and play on their phone.

Nintendo is doing the right thing here imo. I give Sony 6 to 7 months until they announce their version.

Dude, I have been playing with my mates since 2021 and everyone is streaming their screens ..and pinned it to my screen while playing at full res, full fps LMAO

Again .. welcome to the PAST

 

[Robb]

and their kids are CONSTANTLY on facetime with their friends when they are playing games.

Yeah, that's my experience as well. And I really don't get it.

But I'm convinced the devs had seen their own kids doing that exact thing when designing this.

 

[Deerock71]

The only interest I have in it is playing Goldeneye with 4 players so we can all cheat like the split-screen back in the old days. Comparable framerate, to boot.

 

[Hohenheim]

Shitty hardware is the reason.
I for one will definitely never use that C button. Having folks on my screen talking in each others mouths while I try to play a videogame is not my cup of tea.

 

[lughnasadh123]

That authentic South of Midnight experience now on your Switch!

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Did this really need an explanation? Streaming video takes bandwidth. Streaming four at the same time at high frame rates can have an impact.

It's not like you're actually trying to do split screen.

Surprised they didn't charge customers for the explanation in their Welcome Tour.

 

[Parazels]

Those low frame rate windows create a very nostalgic 90s vibe.

Good.

 

[SweetTooth]

Shitty hardware is the reason.
I for one will definitely never use that C button. Having folks on my screen talking in each others mouths while I try to play a videogame is not my cup of tea.

That's what they said exactly lol

 

[chilichote]

Even Sony/PS4 and Microsoft/Xbone managed to do this with mechanical hard drives...

Edit: Okay, maybe I didn't quite understand what this is about - be nice to me!^^

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Dude, I have been playing with my mates since 2021 and everyone is streaming their screens ..and pinned it to my screen while playing at full res, full fps LMAO

Again .. welcome to the PAST

How do you do this on PS5?

Is there an option for it in the share menu?

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

TL;DR: console is not powerful enough to run everything at 60fps or even 30fps

People reaction:

 

[PatientGamer]

There was zero point in them having this 'C' feature, if the quality was going to be this shockingly bad. Did they honestly, not do any consumer researh or play testing into how people would feel about this?

 

[AMSCD]

It's fascinating to me that people has:

• Said this feature is pointless since Discord exists (and discord existing makes it a good platform for children to be in because Discord content is very suitable to anyone always, as we all know)
• Said that it isn't worth the price (despite being thrown into a subscription with more stuff on it so this service in particular doesn't have a set price)
• Said that they don't want it taking processing power from the games (but I though you were going to use discord, so why is this an issue?)
• ...but also want the screen sharing to be 120fps (despite that being a pointless use of processing power)

You find it fascinating that people have different opinions?

 

[Danjin44]

I dont give a fuck about any of this shit, same way give shit about any PS5's Share button and social features.

 

[Loomy]

Yeah, that's my experience as well. And I really don't get it.

But I'm convinced the devs had seen their own kids doing that exact thing when designing this.

That's how we usually use Discord. Especially if we're doing party games and stuff.

 

[Shaki12345]

Can't see much people using it, but I'd like to be surprised.

 

[iHaunter]

This has been a very Sony-Esque system reveal. Announce a good product then pile on the shit details afterward.

In what way?

 

[Sebastian1295]

I don't see why anyone would use a feature like this when the framerate of said feature is 10fps loll. Like who's going to use a video chat service that is unusable essentially.

 

[Roman Empire]

The ole Omegle chat framerate

 

[AMSCD]

Can't see much people using it, but I'd like to be surprised.

Kids will use it

 

[rodrigolfp]

I have been doing that on PS5 for ages .. at 1080p/60

The difference is that PS5 games "lost" an entire CPU core to do this.

 

[Ceadeus]

Here's a glimpse of Neogaf community using Switch 2 game chat

 

[nordique]

10FPS X 5 on screen is 50FPS. Is my mathing right?

10fps

5 screens

50fps


All At 4K

 

[Sebastian1295]

The difference is that PS5 games "lost" an entire CPU core to do this.

If you're going to include a feature on your machine than don't make it unusable. Using this service will be the equivalent of trying to video chat someone on your cellphone with 1 bar of reception on a 3G network. It'll look and run absolutely horrendous.

 

[rodrigolfp]

If you're going to include a feature on your machine than don't make it unusable. Using this service will be the equivalent of trying to video chat someone on your cellphone with 1 bar of reception on a 3G network. It'll look and run absolutely horrendous.

It's not unusable and then It's better than nothing.

 

[N30RYU]

C tier feature indeed mapped to the C button

 

[SweetTooth]

The difference is that PS5 games "lost" an entire CPU core to do this.

It seems not to affect the overall power in the grand scheme of things

Console power scale:

PS5Pro>PS5>Series X> Series S

 

[RespawnX]

tl;d: Because we want to charge the full price for half the service.
Even Discord 720p/30fps sharing is downright modern.

 

[iHaunter]

I don't have kids personally, buy folks I know do and their kids are CONSTANTLY on facetime with their friends when they are playing games.

I gave an ipad mini to one of them for xmas and they use it as a "second screen" with their iphone...they facetime on that and play on their phone.

Nintendo is doing the right thing here imo. I give Sony 6 to 7 months until they announce their version.

Buddy you already can... https://www.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/hd-camera/

What're you going on about? Sony has been doing this for years. At 1080p/60 no less. Nintendo is incompetent.

 

[Sebastian1295]

It's not unusable and then It's better than nothing.

10fps video chat is unusable in my personal opinion. They should do better and be expected to do better than that.

 

[SweetTooth]

How do you do this on PS5?

Is there an option for it in the share menu?

Yes, share screen to whole party, everyone can share their gameplay and you can pin it to your screen and watch it while you play and chat with them

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Nintendo ripping off Kinect

 

[Sojiro]

I guess good on Nintendo not hiding th fact it looked like complete and utter dog shit in that Game chat demo lol. I am curious if only one share looks fine or not. Either way I would only be interested in the voice chat function of this, but neat for the people that want to watch slideshows of each other as you play.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

yeah, this is why their chat UI takes 50% of the screen.

Is The SW2 the most retarded console ever?

 

[SweetTooth]

yeah, this is why their chat UI takes 50% of the screen.

Is The SW2 the most retarded console ever?

Nintendo always lagged behind technologically, even against Sega in the 80s. Switch 2 camera is an insult, and this c button function is simply retarded.

 

[Zannegan]

See, THIS is where something like frame generation would be nice, not for gameplay, but for smoothing out video chat without hogging bandwidth.

 

[Fafalada]

10FPS X 5 on screen is 50FPS. Is my mathing right?

That's what they said exactly lol

To be fair - doing this scalable can be done just fine (so no matter the number of users you always have one incoming stream and even og Switch could handle it most likely) but that'd mean Nintendo has to pony up some cloud costs and not just charge people for P2P.

 

[SweetTooth]

To be fair - doing this scalable can be done just fine (so no matter the number of users you always have one incoming stream and even og Switch could handle it most likely) but that'd mean Nintendo has to pony up some cloud costs and not just charge people for P2P.

And I have always heard that Japanese take pride of their work (which they mostly do) but not the goons at Nintendo.

You either do it right or don't half ass it

 

[rodrigolfp]

It seems not to affect the overall power in the grand scheme of things

Console power scale:

PS5Pro>PS5>Series X> Series S

An entire core makes a significant difference in performance. In all those consoles plus PS4/Pro and Xone/X too.

 

[SweetTooth]

An entire core makes a significant difference in performance. In all those consoles plus PS4/Pro and Xone/X too.

I see it as Sony managed to add one hell of a service (shareplay, share screen) competent recording system without sacrifice the power crown.

Its ok in my book

 

[RoadHazard]

Duh.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I see it as Sony managed to add one hell of a service (shareplay, share screen) competent recording system without sacrifice the power crown.

Its ok in my book

That missing core for games is sacrificing the games performances.

 

[Durin]

Honestly this is a nothingburger thing to care about.

They shouldn't waste more resources on a literal background feature vs. going into the game I'm playing. All that matters is voice chat quality not being scuffed.

 

[Matsuchezz]

Buddy you already can... https://www.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/hd-camera/

What're you going on about? Sony has been doing this for years. At 1080p/60 no less. Nintendo is incompetent.

Old feature, delivered poorly and half assed, charge to use the feature, Incompetent never, this is premium gaming.

 

[iHaunter]

Old feature, delivered poorly and half assed, charge to use the feature, Incompetent never, this is premium gaming.

Fever dream?

 

[mckmas8808]

I have no idea why they invested so much time and effort into this. I can see what they were wanting to accomplish, but I really don't get the stop motion quality feeds. I mean, from today's standards it looked really, really rough. I get it's just not for us, it just felt so odd to see. Definitely just feels like Nintendo looked at the Kinect and were like, "Hey, let's do stuff like that." and it feels a bit late, lol.

Exactly! This is a weird thing for them to care about.

 

[Calverz]

I know it's easy to make fun of this whole game chat thing but honestly I think it could have massive appeal with casuals. Similar to Wii motion controls if used as an analogy.

 

[AJUMP23]

Who wants to be the first to risk a GAF chat group?