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Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown |OT| Top Tier Fighting, Top Tier Pricing
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bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
heh Yeah, he's definitely ridiculous. I've only fought Grifter's Akira and he was either tossing me around or smashing me with elbows and palms. Really tough to gauge his attacks. Generally for me though it's just a total lack of knowledge of movesets/attacks though, i.e. I need to play much, much more than I do now. Brad was killing me the other day online. It was terrible. It's possible I dislike him more than Jerky right now actually.
SousedLouse
Member
Which one? The one where he grabs you by the arms and drags you? If it's that one, you can either break the initial grab or break the grab when he tries to drag you. In the earlier games, if you did the latter, you had to move in the opposite direction of wherever the Goh player was going to drag you - if Goh was going to go left, for example, you'd have to go right - but I don't know if it's the same way now.
Yeah the one that goes on for like 8 seconds.
adversesolutions
Member
Yo man your stream was dope last night (my time). Ready to see that salt at EVO bruh, get em!
GotchaForce
Member
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Mr. Rellik
Member
Online is so full of fradulence. Fought a ppp D+K lau earlier tonight. Beserker rank no less. Just spammed it and with three bars of lag i couldn;t even block the sweep in time.
Offline = sex
Online = jerking it
Offline = sex
Online = jerking it
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Akira gets you on the angles. He appears really linear, but that's only if you're both in the same lines, and he steps off of them very subtly. So, you end up punching air while he turns ears and ribs into pudding. He's also really good at immediately closing distance and if you don't catch him in the first few frames of his movements, your attempts to counter end up being him countering you.
It's actually better to be patient and watch him (and, yeah, you'll get beat a few times) before you really try to actively beat on him. You may get hollared at for being passive, but ignore that noise. If you stand too still, you will get tossed around, but that's the case with anyone. Additionally, if Akira whiffs, he has a long recovery time for any of the lunging palms, and he's not going to track your sidesteps like Lau, Pai, or Kage will, unless you move too early.
Mr. Rellik
Member
You only get one throw escape now. You can hold guard then p and a stick direction to escape one throw. You can even hold the.stick like that indefinitely to escape that one direction (weird but true). I.read that evade crouch.dash guard throw escqpe is the thing to do now ECDTEG on VFDC.COM
SousedLouse
Member
Yeah, in Final Showdown only one throw escape input is registered during throws. However, instead of performing the entire input, you press P+G and back, forward or neutral, depending on the last input of the throw you're trying to escape. This video goes into a bit more detail about this stuff, at about 25:30
Sega of America has some small tutorial videos on their YouTube channel too, although they're unlisted for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tlc0RoWwx4 (throw escapes are covered at about 6:45)
Edit: Guess I took too long to respond.
Dead Man Typing
Member
Out of my first 75 fights online, I won 25 and lost 50. Which isn''t too bad a ratio as far as I'm concerned. Someone's gotta make you guys look good.
bumpkin
Member
I'm pretty sure my record would be more like won 2 lost 73, so you're a better man than I.
That's how I started. With AH3 I was like 10-90 to start. If you're learning you'll turn that record around eventually.
I am having the opposite. I started out winning a good 90% of my games. Now I am losing. A LOT.
I tried out Jeffery, using the guide that was posted here a few pages back. I dunno about him. Too many losses due to my long shitty startup, and my damage compared to Taka... it just isn't the same. Definietely more losses than wins.
I love the animation on his backbreaker throw though. So good.
I love the animation on his backbreaker throw though. So good.
yea jeffry is no longer the high risk high reward character he used to be. you gotta make those reads man! but jeffry is still extremely fundamental so if its the basics you want, he's the man that will show you the way
SousedLouse
Member
I just got a chance to try it out in training mode, and I was wrong on one point. The initial grab can't be broken if it catches you, although you can duck it or counterattack on anticipation.
I was right about the directions used to break it, though. The timing is pretty lax, so you can mash a direction and it will still register as a throw break if the right direction is used.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Can't wait to FINALLY put some work in with Sarah....
ShinobiFist
Banned
Is better and easier if you hold the direction of the throw.
Mr. Rellik
Member
To a new starter I would recommend Jacky I guess. Spam quick long range mids. People won't be able to block on reaction or step online very well if at all and you'll be able to interrupt their attacks more often than not (especially if there's 3 bars or less for connection quality).
There's lots of shenanigans online that wouldn't stand up offline so nobody get upset when you lose or feel a spammer is getting the best of you and you can't counter their technique. Just have fun with it and try and get to a meetup for competitive vf if that's your thing.
There's lots of shenanigans online that wouldn't stand up offline so nobody get upset when you lose or feel a spammer is getting the best of you and you can't counter their technique. Just have fun with it and try and get to a meetup for competitive vf if that's your thing.
opticalmace
Member
Downloading now... mybodyisready.jpg.
KimonoNoNo
Member
I give the game a rest for a couple of nights and returned tonight.
I played like a crab in handcuffs.
I played like a crab in handcuffs.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Still losing hardcore online Ranked and not giving a good goddamn. Too much awesomeness. Those few moments where I really put something together offensively really makes it all worth it.
I think I like Vanessa's OS a lot more than DS btw.
I think I like Vanessa's OS a lot more than DS btw.
KimonoNoNo
Member
Against Jean when he charges up an attack at the end of a string, is it best to block,counter, evade or even throw?
Because even though I see the delay, I always seem to get caught by that last shot.
Because even though I see the delay, I always seem to get caught by that last shot.
I'd at least say you definitely do not want to block. He's at advantage after those charge moves, so it can lead to trickier setups.
KimonoNoNo
Member
Thanks, so playing turtle is a definite no-no.
Mr. Rellik
Member
Anyone looking to get bodied by a non fradulent Akira on XBL? Find puertoricanstyl Dude's Akira hits like a ton of bricks. I got bodied between a few wins. Pure aggression then he starts the guardbreaks.
Shouta, you're located in the Northwest part of the country?
If so, I need to play you in order to test connection- I'm trying to see if cross-coast can play acceptably on PSN. I had one bad experience (which was a real shame), trying to figure out if it was PSN or her connection.
I am finding the netcode of the psn version to be pretty much perfect. i play mostly with people from other countries since the game is probably dead in here and I get almost lag free matches with 1 bar and sometimes even with 0 bars.
That is not my experience at all on PSN
3 bars is fine
2 bars is usually pretty good, some 2 bars are bad (the person I'm referring was a bare mininum 2 bar connection)
1 bar is like playing KOF online 2-3 bars.
I'm seriously considering getting a 360 just for being able to play this game correctly online.
3 bars is fine
2 bars is usually pretty good, some 2 bars are bad (the person I'm referring was a bare mininum 2 bar connection)
1 bar is like playing KOF online 2-3 bars.
I'm seriously considering getting a 360 just for being able to play this game correctly online.
Augemitbutter
Member
i only ever play perfect, or one below connection qualities in fighting games. everything else is unacceptable to me.
MightyKAC
Member
As stated before, I live in Japan and have had some damn fine matches with folks from the states on 1 to 2 bar matches. Some of them even with fellow gaffers here. That's not something I can say for too many other fighting games. As far as I'm concerned the netcode for vf5fs simply godlike and I truly hope TTT2 can match it.
So is this also the general consensus about the X360 version being the better version regarding online play?
Teknopathetic
Member
"So is this also the general consensus about the X360 version being the better version regarding online play?"
Nope.
Nope.
That's what I'm trying to figure out. Some VFDC folks have flat-out said that the 360 version has better netcode, others have disagreed. I'm looking for west coasters to play to prove or disprove this. That connection last night felt like I was playing KOF, I'm trying to figure out why- I never had that problem with any American on vanilla VF5 on 360 years ago.
Dick Justice
Banned
Played a few matches online on PS3, can't say that there's any obvious lag. Plays perfectly fine to me. Probably varies depending on the region.
hikarutilmitt
Member
There's no difference I can feel playing 360 vs PS3. Both consoles are wired, too.
FormallyFamicom
Member
Namco is supposed to be using SCV netcode with TTT2, so it should also be godlike.
You can't expect low bars to be good.
That said, I don't think the netcode on PSN is bad now- got to be destroyed by LA Akira just a few moments ago, and the connection was fine. Cross-country play is possible- now blaming the person I was playing. (which is funny because I figured everyone in SF would have excellent broadband, socialist paradise and all)- showed as 2 bars and played like 2 bars, which is pretty good.
That said, I don't think the netcode on PSN is bad now- got to be destroyed by LA Akira just a few moments ago, and the connection was fine. Cross-country play is possible- now blaming the person I was playing. (which is funny because I figured everyone in SF would have excellent broadband, socialist paradise and all)- showed as 2 bars and played like 2 bars, which is pretty good.
Shouta
Member
Well, there are other games where Low Bar isn't too bad at all, Gundam even at low connections is still very playable and at high bars, it's absolutely perfect, like they're sitting next to you. Though, the requirements on the netcode are a bit different for it than say SC or VF.