I dropped the textures down to medium and have everything else on high or ultra with Temporal AA. Doing this completely got rid of the stuttering issue while I'm driving. I have a GTX 770 2GB using the stock clocks with an i5 4570. I also used the borderless option which somehow kept my framerate pretty steady between 60 and 45fps.
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Watch_Dogs PC Performance Thread
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Sword Of Doom
Member
Those are beautiful. Is the game playable at 4K
MarshMellow96
Member
Right, so I've just played the last 6 chapters of Wolfenstein without issue, yet for some reason I can't even run WD on medium textures and low settings without my PSU making a clicking sound. I'm at the stage now where I just can't be bothered with this game anymore.
If anyone's curious:
Gigabyte AMD 7950 with 14.6 drivers
i5-3570K
8GB RAM
The PSU is an XFX Pro 550W Core Edition if anyone is wondering about that.
If anyone's curious:
Gigabyte AMD 7950 with 14.6 drivers
i5-3570K
8GB RAM
The PSU is an XFX Pro 550W Core Edition if anyone is wondering about that.
OK, I just confirmed that the file to modify is "GamerProfile.xml".
How would this run on a 580? I mostly have been indie gaming on the PC for the last 3 years since I bought the 580 and at that time it could hit 60fps maxed on everything sans Crysis/Metro 2033 which could be maxed 30fps+ no problem.
Can I run this 1080p/30fps maxed with no AA or 2x AA on the 580? Or have the newer cards dated the 580 and now it struggles for 30fps maxed on these types of games?
Can I run this 1080p/30fps maxed with no AA or 2x AA on the 580? Or have the newer cards dated the 580 and now it struggles for 30fps maxed on these types of games?
Pops Maellard
Member
What should I be using for AA at lower resolutions (1080p-900p)? I'd go for MSAA but it nearly halves the frame rate.
Yes it is. Well Ultra was pretty choppy but not nearly as bad as this morning. May have something to do with adding the disablepagefile line to the shortcut target. I just dropped textures down to High, but left everything else on Ultra and it was even smoother. Still choppy here and there but better. Was getting between 50-60fps with High Textures, SMAA, Ultra settings, and SLI. Still want to play around some more. Now I need to find out why my wired 360 controller spazzes out at times and doesn't allow me to properly control Aiden.
We're getting there though!
Face it Tiger..
Banned
Cuban Legend
Member
I also had this issue and JUST figured out the game thing worked for me too!
"Phenom II x4 940 Stock" club here... medium settings, saved my life, The stutter is 99% gone, I can drive as fast as I want and it stutters only about 1/10 times that it used to, AMAZING.
Also, screw you Ubisoft for the VRAM hogging. Also TXAA, why cant every game have it, it's amazing.
so are you going to play with medium textures? i got the same results and im not sure if i want to deal with the stuttering but have a better looking experience or go with no stuttering and ugly textures.
Acupunctur3
Member
Disabling one of my Titans dramatically reduces stuttering. The Watch Dogs SLI profile is a piece of shit.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I've only played about an hour so far, but the game runs silky smooth so far on Ultra settings, except I have Vsync off since I'm running borderless.
OS:
Windows 8.1
Processor:
Intel i7 4770k @ 3.5 GHz
Memory:
8 GB 2133 DDR3
Graphics:
Gigabye Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5
Hard Drive:
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
Resolution:
2560 x 1440
OS:
Windows 8.1
Processor:
Intel i7 4770k @ 3.5 GHz
Memory:
8 GB 2133 DDR3
Graphics:
Gigabye Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5
Hard Drive:
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
Resolution:
2560 x 1440
Brofist
Member
Happened to me too. Seemed to coincide with using Shadowplay, but I'm not 100% sure of that
MrFrankFontaine
Banned
Well after reading about how poorly optimized this game is, I'm glad I waited. I'll jump in if Ubisoft fixes these issues, but this is ridiculous.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Did they fix the performance issues with AC4? Nope.
jacksepticeye
Member
How'd you get rid of the HUD yo?
MrFrankFontaine
Banned
And I haven't bought/played AC4...
That's pretty reassuring for me. I have a very similar setup, except I have 2500k at 4.3Ghz.
Do you have oyur 290 overclocked at all? I have mine bumped up a bit to 1050/1350
Vincent Alexander
Member
Nope. I have nothing OC'ed at the moment.
Cuban Legend
Member
the stutter is decent in missions where you're hacking and not travelling much, but try driving in a mission, or running, or catching someone after you find out you've been invaded, you cant catch up with them EVER, because when you stutter it only hurts you since it doesn't stutter them too.
So Yes, I'm playing with Medium textures, i miss the High textyured water but I'm okay with 90% less stutter over slightly higher resolution textures in some areas. I'll live.
SwordStruck
Member
Everything on high runs very well for me with a 280x. Slows down a bit when driving around but no stuttering.
I'm honestly most surprised with NVIDIA - how could they get behind it? I mean, I'm sure they've been deeply involved as Watch Dogs is their AAA "gold standard" for the rest of the year in terms of showing off their tech, and yet the game runs so shitty.
I feel like my computer is a powerhouse... i7-4770k, GTX 780 Ti, 16gb RAM, Samsung SSD, good power supply, good liquid cooling, etc. and yet the game still hitches.
This is just from driving around for a minute using the "Nvidia experience optimized" settings. It makes me crack up that Nvidia actually thinks this is "optimized."
Every single spike is a noticable stutter...
I feel like my computer is a powerhouse... i7-4770k, GTX 780 Ti, 16gb RAM, Samsung SSD, good power supply, good liquid cooling, etc. and yet the game still hitches.
This is just from driving around for a minute using the "Nvidia experience optimized" settings. It makes me crack up that Nvidia actually thinks this is "optimized."
Every single spike is a noticable stutter...
TacticalDev
Banned
My Specs:
2 gtx 780 6gb edition sli'd
i7 4700k @ 4.7ghz
16gb 2300mhz
samsung evo + pro ssd's
My settings:
All Ultra, hbao + high, msaa x8, 1080p, dof off (currently)
I get 68-72 avg a lot of the time a bit higher. When walking/running, exploding things I never see anything less than 58.
When I drive.....well I guess you can call it that. I will get random stutters which seem like huge fps drops, but aren't. Of course they cause me to crash
Afterburner reports:
5.5gb vram usage (wow!)
87-95% avg on each of the cards
67% avg cpu
5.5-6gb ram usage
What is interesting is just about when I hit 6gb ram usage, I get the stutters while driving. This is the only time I experience any stuttering in game. My theory is that this is when it starts using a page file. The question is why? I have 16gb of ram and about 10 is free when this happens. I haven't tried disabling this yet and will report back.
Besides the driving stutter the game looks and runs amazing for me. The sad part is the vram and gpu usage. I should not be using that much for this game.
Has anyone found a solution to the stuttering I am experiencing? It's not a vram issue for me.
2 gtx 780 6gb edition sli'd
i7 4700k @ 4.7ghz
16gb 2300mhz
samsung evo + pro ssd's
My settings:
All Ultra, hbao + high, msaa x8, 1080p, dof off (currently)
I get 68-72 avg a lot of the time a bit higher. When walking/running, exploding things I never see anything less than 58.
When I drive.....well I guess you can call it that. I will get random stutters which seem like huge fps drops, but aren't. Of course they cause me to crash
Afterburner reports:
5.5gb vram usage (wow!)
87-95% avg on each of the cards
67% avg cpu
5.5-6gb ram usage
What is interesting is just about when I hit 6gb ram usage, I get the stutters while driving. This is the only time I experience any stuttering in game. My theory is that this is when it starts using a page file. The question is why? I have 16gb of ram and about 10 is free when this happens. I haven't tried disabling this yet and will report back.
Besides the driving stutter the game looks and runs amazing for me. The sad part is the vram and gpu usage. I should not be using that much for this game.
Has anyone found a solution to the stuttering I am experiencing? It's not a vram issue for me.
finalflame
Member
I'm honestly most surprised with NVIDIA - how could they get behind it? I mean, I'm sure they've been deeply involved as Watch Dogs is their AAA "gold standard" for the rest of the year in terms of showing off their tech, and yet the game runs so shitty.
I feel like my computer is a powerhouse... i7-4770k, GTX 780 Ti, 16gb RAM, Samsung SSD, good power supply, good liquid cooling, etc. and yet the game still hitches.
This is just from driving around for a minute using the "Nvidia experience optimized" settings. It makes me crack up that Nvidia actually thinks this is "optimized."
Every single spike is a noticable stutter...
My system is very similar to yours, but with an i5-4670K. Same deal, watercooled 780 Ti, etc.
I get the same fucking stutters. It's not an FPS problem, as I can hold 50-60 FPS on a mix of High/Ultra at 1440 w/ Temporal SMAA, it's the fucking hitching.
Ubi needs to acknowledge this and patch it. I think it's an issue regardless of system power. I'd love to see someone with 32gb of RAM try to load this game into a RAMDisk and play it that way, to see if that somehow resolves the stuttering at all.
I agree with you about TXAA. I use it in every game that has it. No other form of anti-aliasing aside from super sampling cleans up the image quality in motion nearly as well as TXAA. The blur is minimal at higher resolutions and I would take a slight amount of blur over all the flickering and crawling jaggies and shader aliasing we see so often in modern games.
SGSSAA is the only thing better, but it doesn't work in many games (especially directX 11 games) and even when it works it hits performance very hard. I use it when I can, but TXAA is a nice alternative with a minimal performance hit.
Acupunctur3
Member
It's runs at a pretty consistent 30fps at 4K@Ultra without AA, even with just one Titan. With both Titans it runs at a higher framerate but the stuttering destroys it.
I don't have it enabled though?
Go to "C:\Users\UserName\Documents\My Games\Watch_Dogs\*\GameProfile.xml" (Or figure out where GameProfile.xml is stored in your PC) and open this GameProfile.xml in text editor like Notepad.
In '<GameProfile....</GameProfile>' change :
UseCompassMiniMap="1" UseRoadSignHilight="1" UseSubtitles="1" UseReticle="1" UseWaypoint="1" UseHintsAndTutorial="1" UsePdaNotification="1" UseMinimap="1" UseDynamicMission="1" UseItemAndRewards="1" UseMissionUpdate="1" UseFelony="1" UseEquipmentAndTools="1" UseAmbx="0"
to
UseCompassMiniMap="0" UseRoadSignHilight="0" UseSubtitles="0" UseReticle="0" UseWaypoint="0" UseHintsAndTutorial="0" UsePdaNotification="0" UseMinimap="0" UseDynamicMission="0" UseItemAndRewards="0" UseMissionUpdate="0" UseFelony="0" UseEquipmentAndTools="0" UseAmbx="0"
finalflame
Member
This is just a crappy example of a game. I'd say even with minor stuttering, my experience is FAR better than 30fps on a console. I can get the game to run @ 35 FPS with everything maxxed (Ultra, TXAA 4x), but it's unplayable. I can't imagine being locked to 30 on console.
TacticalDev
Banned
I, as many enjoy that aspect of it very much. There is nothing like staying up all night tweaking your settings, overclocking, etc all to gain just a little bit more performance. For me it feels like I enjoy that just as much as playing. I remember trying to play Crysis for the first time.....had no money for a killer gpu, so had to work with what I had.
Codeblew
Member
And people were speccing out $500 PC's a few months ago to compete with next-gen consoles. I feel bad for the people that fell for that BS.
I've got a 4K TV and similar experience with a single 290X. Solid 30 FPS 99% of the time. Too bad there are no GPUs yet with HDMI 2.0 though so pointless for me to try CF.
Brofist
Member
For some PC gamers that is the fun part.
But tweaking is the fun part of PC gaming. The fact that I can decide what to do with my game and how it is presented to me. Now WD is unoptimized in places obviously, but there are tons of options for you to dig in and mess around with.
Really?
Ok, I feel bad for those of you that are having trouble running this game. What settings are you using?
For anybody that has something in the same ballpark as my GTX 770 (like your 680) and a decent quad or octa-core processor, please try the following settings. If you aren't getting excellent graphics and solid performance I'll be shocked.
1. All settings in the "Graphics Quality" menu at ultra/on/highest
2. 2x TXAA (or temporal SMAA if you prefer).
3. Textures at "high" if you only have 2GB of VRAM.
4. Vsync off in "Display" menu.
5. Use "1/2 refresh rate" vsync in Nvidia Inspector or "Double vsync" in RadeonPro.
This will give you a proper vsynced 30fps. Frame limiters only prevent the framerate from going above whatever you set them at, but they don't properly sync the frame output to the refresh rate of the display, and this results in micro-stuttering.
Using the above settings you should be getting a solid 30fps in nearly every area with far better graphics and image quality than any of the console versions.
Few hours played, some stutter, mostly while driving, not too bad from what I've seen so far. Running mostly smooth.
Windows 7
2600K (4.5ghz)
780 3GB (1150 core/6.5ghz memory)
8GB RAM (1333mhz)
1920x1200
Getting mostly 50-60fps with ultra everything, hbao and shaders high, DoF on, motion blur off (preference), temporal smaa.
Windows 7
2600K (4.5ghz)
780 3GB (1150 core/6.5ghz memory)
8GB RAM (1333mhz)
1920x1200
Getting mostly 50-60fps with ultra everything, hbao and shaders high, DoF on, motion blur off (preference), temporal smaa.
Windom Earle
Member
Tweaking is fun and my game looks and runs way better than on consoles so I can't complain.
See I have much better results with AC4 with my system (probably due to SLI). By simply turning Physx off, I can maintain a constant 60 FPS with AC4 with no drops or stuttering to speak of with everything else maxed out. I've got to really tweak Watch_Dogs to get a constant 60 FPS and even then some stuttering and drops are unavoidable. I get better performance by turning SLI off, but there are still problems.
I'm debating whether or not to play this now, or to work on my backlog until there are some more fixes (with AC4 being at the top of my backlog). On one hand I can get easily get playable performance with some tweaks, but there are still issues and graphic quality has to be sacrificed somewhat. I think I'd enjoy the game more if I could run it smoothly virtually 100% of the time and if I could further increase some settings like AA, and possibly texture if they somehow fix the VRAM issue.
Well, I broke down and bought the game:
i7-3770
GTX 770 4GB
8GB DDR-1600
Inexpensive 120GB Sandisk SSD
I played the first mission and then started driving around. I'm playing using g-sync which really smooths out the game. Even so I'm definitely getting some minor hitching in my frame rate when I drive quickly. Everything is on ultra and I haven't started playing with settings yet. I'll play with it some more if I get a chance tomorrow.
i7-3770
GTX 770 4GB
8GB DDR-1600
Inexpensive 120GB Sandisk SSD
I played the first mission and then started driving around. I'm playing using g-sync which really smooths out the game. Even so I'm definitely getting some minor hitching in my frame rate when I drive quickly. Everything is on ultra and I haven't started playing with settings yet. I'll play with it some more if I get a chance tomorrow.
There needs to be an option to have no HUD in game, gets tiring having to change them when I restart the game often.
You should probably not post in this thread anymore.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
A game with hitching problems has happened before (FC3). Driver updates helped smooth it out.
A bad PC Port is not PC's fault.
We could just put it on medium textures and "be done with it" and we'd still have higher than 30fps at 1080p. We just want and expect better and don't mind tinkering to get that.
GHG
Member
Ok so I locked the game to 30 fps in inspector last night and used Nvidia's normal Vsync over the in-game options and got very good results. I'm now running it at 2048 x 1152, (so slightly downsampled to 1080p) everything ultra with TXAA x2.
Its seems to have got rid of most of the stuttering and I'm very happy with the IQ on my HDTV. Not 100% stutter free, but I'll get 1 stutter in every 10 minutes or so of driving around rather than one every 30 seconds. Pretty happy with it now so think I'll dive in properly with these settings and start actually playing the game!
Interested to see what Vuze or other modders can come up with as I know I have 15-20 fps worth of headroom with my current settings so more eye candy will be welcome if possible .
Its seems to have got rid of most of the stuttering and I'm very happy with the IQ on my HDTV. Not 100% stutter free, but I'll get 1 stutter in every 10 minutes or so of driving around rather than one every 30 seconds. Pretty happy with it now so think I'll dive in properly with these settings and start actually playing the game!
Interested to see what Vuze or other modders can come up with as I know I have 15-20 fps worth of headroom with my current settings so more eye candy will be welcome if possible
.Decided it probably will probably for the best I just settlle for a lock 30 frames and not try to go for 50-60.. it's just to inconsistent with the trade offs.
1920x1080
Textures High, Everything else Ultra with HABO High and TXAA x2.
Solid 30 frames 90% of the time though does dip no lower then 26 at times.
GTX 670 OC 2GB
i7 4770K stock
8GB Ram
Wins 8.1
Haven't played a game at 30 frames since the Crysis came. Game looks fantastic at least for open world...
1920x1080
Textures High, Everything else Ultra with HABO High and TXAA x2.
Solid 30 frames 90% of the time though does dip no lower then 26 at times.
GTX 670 OC 2GB
i7 4770K stock
8GB Ram
Wins 8.1
Haven't played a game at 30 frames since the Crysis came. Game looks fantastic at least for open world...