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Watch_Dogs reviews
- Thread starter ComputerMKII
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If you think a game is going to get good reviews just because it has a large marketing budget, you need to re-evaluate.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
When the majority of Neogaf users who played the game are positive, and the majority of reviews so far are positive, then how does that translate into "higher scores than it deserves?"
I doubt this guy actually played the game. This seems more like a review of the synopsis than anything else.
Oh come on, you would have to be naive to think stuff like that doesn't go on.
The text of most reviews I read feel like it should be scoring between a 7 and an 8, then I get to the score and it's got an 8.5 or higher.
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I wish we had Bush II type executive summaries for every thread.
GavinUK86
Member
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if the reviews are covered in weird substances like their pre-owned games.
AHA-Lambda
Member
oh yeah, been doing them for ages, but they're about as useful as reviews from GAME obviously.
bequietdrive
Member
Quite simply, it's not the game they promised us.
I don't think it's across the board, though. When legit reviews hit tomorrow, I'm sure we will get a couple reasonably scored ones. The early scores and reviews smell like week old Chinese food.
A lot of people give the game flak because of Connor as a character. People claim he is too boring, but he is probably the most misunderstood protagonist in the series.
Ubisoft went out of their way to treat the Native Americans with respect, by making sure every native american in the game was voiced by a native american actor. They made sure to use their accurate dialect. They could have done what they did with Ezio, and asked a well known voice actor to act like he was native american, but they didn't.
When you see interviews and hear how the voice actor Noah Watts was asked to portray him. He explained what he did with the protagonists voice, for instance, never using slang throughout the story as English was the characters second language. This means that a formal dialect was always present making Connor seem one-dimensional.
They wanted to portray him as uncertain if he was doing the right thing. If you look at the Ezio trilogy, almost everyone Ezio assassinated was cartoonishly evil. However in AC3 all the templars seem very reasonable.
Also, if you think that Connor is an angry teenager who sulks and shouts, play through the Homestead missions. He is a very gentle character in those sequences.
Ultimately the greatest injustice to Connor as a character is ubisoft cutting the epilouge scene from the game
It shows how much Connor had grown throughout the game. The fact you know from the beginning Connor is going to lose is his tradegy, because he believed that he would be able to make things right.
It sucks that ubisoft is going to abandon Connor because he wasn't well received. I hope in some way or form, he gets the closure he deserves as a character. He is the only character in the main games who doesn't have a definitive end.
Also... Your avatar is shinjiro. Both connor and he have multiple similarities in terms of traits.
If you think the reviewers are being paid off, then why would they even mention negatives? Doesn't make sense.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Neither was The Last of Us but people didn't shit on that game after it was proven the E3 reveal was staged as fuck.
Andodalf
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In what way? I haven't followed the game closely, as I don't have a new Gen console or PC yet. I'm saving the games for next Gen. Are people that upset by graphics?
I don't belive they paid anyone, but the only thing that matters in a review from a small site is the score. Dat aggregate score!
Because the vast majority of people just look at the review score without actually reading the whole review. Thats marketing fact, google it.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Did not played so I cant say it for myself. But it doesnt look a 9/10 game from everything I read and saw on the videos. But I kind expected, for some reason Ubisfot games are usually very well criticised (as some other 3rd parties products). Maybe its because its not an exclusive game, then theres no fanboy hate.
Still doesn't make any sense. You're just coming off as paranoid here.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
In the very first demo they showed:
-Walking around Chicago
-Using *Jam Coms* to sneak into a nightclub
-Realtime transition from cutscene to gameplay
-Melee with the baton
-realtime cloth physics where Aiden pulls his gun out and pulls his mask up
-Stop light hack to cause traffic jams/crashes
-Dynamic cover and cool animations for rolling over cars
-slow motion shooting mechanics
-Aiden reacts to explosions by rolling
-The ability for others to hack into your game and observe you
Another gameplay video they showed the player just exploring the world and stopping crimes using the CTOS crime detection system, they showed the player pursuing a felon and chasing him through stores and using parkour/slowmo to cause a pipe to explode so that the player can take him down, they then showed that you can shoot at tires to really mess up police cars, while also getting hacked by another player that secretly invaded the game. Other highlights in gameplay videos include
-news reports the player actions leading to npcs who recognize him to call the police
-hacking into webcams and apartments to see little fun snippets of Chicago residents
^ So i'm curious, which of these things didn't make it into the final game exactly?
And you're just coming off naive, besides i'm far from the only one saying it in this thread.
I've now seen you say this three times in as many weeks but with no proof. Where's the proof?
Huh? What are you talking about?
A package is more than just its individual elements. You could use that argument on just about any Ubisoft game. Would you consider that infamous Far Cry 3 E3 video to be an accurate representation of the game because it had all the "elements"? If so, then you're exactly the kind of person Ubisoft is aiming at with their marketing. Glad to finally meet you.. I wasn't sure such a person existed.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Compare that demo with the full game. Come on. That was a seriously misleading representation of the AI. We all know the AI in tlou wasn't anyhere near as good as that demo made it seem.
But it's no biggie. Judge the game on what it was, not whata previous demo made it see like it would be.
Man, where do people get the idea that some gamers act entitled?
The graphics.
Kssio_Aug
Member
You mean by this gameplay video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYkj0glnqs#t=293
From what I remember playing, it wasnt staged at all. The AI at this game is pretty awesome sometimes.
No, I don't agree. Now where is the proof?
You haven't played it.
Serious question dude, why are you in this thread? You blatantly have an agenda to push over having an actual discussion.
ComputerMKII
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Raitosaito
Member
And that has been talked about to death. Gameplay wise it still looks all there.
DR2K
Banned
Consumers are entitled to products. Being upset at false advertising has nothing to do with entitlement.
That excuses the lies about the graphics how?
And the funny thing is it's a good looking game.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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My proof is that exact same section in the full game. Play it and compare the AI to that demo. Either that demo was staged or the AI got downgraded. Which again is fine by me. The full game was still great on its own merits.
What would you like to discuss?
Consumers are not entitled to products. You're entitled to spend your money as you choose, however.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That completely dodged the question of what did or didn't make it into the game while also an attempt to insult my intelligence. I asked how it's "not the game they promised us" when the gameplay hasn't been downgraded in anyway shape or form. And how wasn't that FC3 video representative of the final game when the gameplay is exactly the same in the final product and when the character models in the final game look better.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=113365894&postcount=5512
PS4 version looks great imo. Plus, i'd much rather the gameplay be preserved first and foremost.
I would suggest you be very careful with what you claim has been "proven" going forward.
Confused Cheeseburger
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Awesome post
bump
Yeah, unless I Wanna Be The Guy can shoot a video to argue those claims, comparing the E3 video and a final code playthrough, it's pure conjecture.
Even then, for the sake of his own bias, I'd rather not have him shoot the video.
Yep, that's what I thought. Have a nice day.