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[bitbydeath]

I don't think what the runtime environment is will be sufficient evidence to convince Tobi that the development environment is changing.

Regardless, I don't see the point of keeping GDK alive after this move, unless @Tobimacoss can explain what exactly is the need for it to exist for next gen games going forward. Its existence makes perfect sense until cross gen/Series X is completely phased out, but I would think its days are numbered at the very least.

It would cost money to port it to Xbox SDK and they would not gain any additional money/sales in doing so.

There is no incentive even for MS's own studios.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I wonder what is going to happen to the games that are console only but not PC. Like NHL or CFB. Is EA now just going to make these PS6 exclusive or will they be forced to finally make PC versions so it runs on Magnus.

 

[SNG32]

I wonder what is going to happen to the games that are console only but not PC. Like NHL or CFB. Is EA now just going to make these PS6 exclusive or will they be forced to finally make PC versions so it runs on Magnus.

If they want to do Xbox versions they have no choice but to do a pc version. Also who knows about those games they might not be around after getting acquired by Saudi Arabia.

 

[ChiefDada]

Project Amethyst provides the core technologies of RDNA 5. It's more like Sony AND AMD's technology this time around. Perhaps more similar to PS3 Cell joint venture than PS4/PS5 development collaboration. My guess is Sony will be paying significantly less licensing costs on a per chip basis for PS6 while Microsoft will be subjected to much higher fees.

 

[Proelite]

The Magnus SoC is custom made for Microsoft, but the ATx GMDs are just regular GPU chiplets (apart from the mentioned HW BC stuff like old texture format support).

All AMD APUs since 2022 use Pluton.

By SOC do you mean the bridged die or the CPU+NPU portion.

Also the cpu configuration looks to be similar to the one in Medusa Halo Mini. Why aren't they working with AMD to make the cpu side used in more things such as desktops.

 

[foamdino]

By SOC do you mean the bridges die or the CPU+NPU.

Also the cpu configuration looks to be similar to the one in Medusa Halo Mini. Why aren't they working with AMD to make the cpu side used in more things such as desktops.

SOC == cpu cores, NPU cores, bridge dies and gpu chiplet as a package. Each individual part is just normal AMD technology, the actual layout, selection of number of Zen6 cores number of rdna5 components, etc is custom for MS. So the lego bricks are all just normal bricks, how they're assembled into a SOC is bespoke for MS.

 

[DavidGzz]

I wonder what is going to happen to the games that are console only but not PC. Like NHL or CFB. Is EA now just going to make these PS6 exclusive or will they be forced to finally make PC versions so it runs on Magnus.

Good question. Also, games that are PC only in EA, will they work easily? If it plays console only games like the ones you mentioned and GTA 6, and also EA games that are PC only like Vein, it will truly be a hybrid.

 

[Jibran#one]

So it's a fucking pc ? With some Xbox starting animation and few background closed apps ?.

 

[Ar¢tos]

So it's a fucking pc ? With some Xbox starting animation and few background closed apps ?.

And maybe even readapted adverts from Xbox OS to keep the money dripping in!

You'll watch Doritos commercials every time you launch/quit and pause a game!

 

[bad guy]

I find it hard to believe that I'll be able to play all my OG Xbox games. ("entire Xbox console library")

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

I wonder what is going to happen to the games that are console only but not PC. Like NHL or CFB. Is EA now just going to make these PS6 exclusive or will they be forced to finally make PC versions so it runs on Magnus.

That would only matter if Magnus actually sold a decent number. Instead these sports games would just keep releasing Xbox Series versions of these games until sales drop off entirely. Magnus would not be sold enough to influence porting decisions.

 

[Ar¢tos]

I find it hard to believe that I'll be able to play all my OG Xbox games. ("entire Xbox console library")

Because it is hard to believe.
Hardware BC is out of the question, the 360 Cpu wasn't x86 and the Xbox and 360 GPUs were Nvidia.
Emulation carries potential licensing issues and requires per game optimisation, so I think they mean BC as in the current Xbox and 360 titles they already do BC in the Series consoles (at least until those licenses eventually expire).

 

[bitbydeath]

I find it hard to believe that I'll be able to play all my OG Xbox games. ("entire Xbox console library")

You misread it.

the new Xbox will also run all games currently available on the Xbox Series X|S library

Not all OG, just whatever currently works on Series consoles.

 

[bad guy]

You misread it.



Not all OG, just whatever currently works on Series consoles.

I didn't misread it. It just wasn't true.

 

[Allandor]

Xbox is dead for me after the latest development. Even switched to Linux (bazzite) because of their latest behavior. Next thing for me is some kind of steam-box next to the old console.

 

[Nydius]

You misread it.

Not all OG, just whatever currently works on Series consoles.

I find that hard to believe simply because there's still a litany of legal licensing issues that need sorting to achieve that.

 

[Proelite]

SOC == cpu cores, NPU cores, bridge dies and gpu chiplet as a package. Each individual part is just normal AMD technology, the actual layout, selection of number of Zen6 cores number of rdna5 components, etc is custom for MS. So the lego bricks are all just normal bricks, how they're assembled into a SOC is bespoke for MS.

K KeplerL2 mentioned that the CPU + NPU die is semi-custom. iirc. Also the comment that I was responding to, he didn't say the CPU + NPU chiplet is off the shelf.