bitbydeath
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It would cost money to port it to Xbox SDK and they would not gain any additional money/sales in doing so.
There is no incentive even for MS's own studios.
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There is no incentive even for MS's own studios.
Hari Seldon
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I wonder what is going to happen to the games that are console only but not PC. Like NHL or CFB. Is EA now just going to make these PS6 exclusive or will they be forced to finally make PC versions so it runs on Magnus.
If they want to do Xbox versions they have no choice but to do a pc version. Also who knows about those games they might not be around after getting acquired by Saudi Arabia.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Project Amethyst provides the core technologies of RDNA 5. It's more like Sony AND AMD's technology this time around. Perhaps more similar to PS3 Cell joint venture than PS4/PS5 development collaboration. My guess is Sony will be paying significantly less licensing costs on a per chip basis for PS6 while Microsoft will be subjected to much higher fees.
Proelite
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By SOC do you mean the bridged die or the CPU+NPU portion.
Also the cpu configuration looks to be similar to the one in Medusa Halo Mini. Why aren't they working with AMD to make the cpu side used in more things such as desktops.
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foamdino
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SOC == cpu cores, NPU cores, bridge dies and gpu chiplet as a package. Each individual part is just normal AMD technology, the actual layout, selection of number of Zen6 cores number of rdna5 components, etc is custom for MS. So the lego bricks are all just normal bricks, how they're assembled into a SOC is bespoke for MS.
DavidGzz
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Good question. Also, games that are PC only in EA, will they work easily? If it plays console only games like the ones you mentioned and GTA 6, and also EA games that are PC only like Vein, it will truly be a hybrid.
Jibran#one
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So it's a fucking pc ? With some Xbox starting animation and few background closed apps ?.
Ar¢tos
Member
And maybe even readapted adverts from Xbox OS to keep the money dripping in!
You'll watch Doritos commercials every time you launch/quit and pause a game!
DeltaPolarBear
Member
That would only matter if Magnus actually sold a decent number. Instead these sports games would just keep releasing Xbox Series versions of these games until sales drop off entirely. Magnus would not be sold enough to influence porting decisions.
Ar¢tos
Member
Because it is hard to believe.
Hardware BC is out of the question, the 360 Cpu wasn't x86 and the Xbox and 360 GPUs were Nvidia.
Emulation carries potential licensing issues and requires per game optimisation, so I think they mean BC as in the current Xbox and 360 titles they already do BC in the Series consoles (at least until those licenses eventually expire).
bitbydeath
Gold Member
bad guy
as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
I didn't misread it. It just wasn't true.
Nydius
Member
I find that hard to believe simply because there's still a litany of legal licensing issues that need sorting to achieve that.
foamdino
Member
We will see. Nothing says MS solution more than taking off the shelf parts, doing *absolutely nothing* and then claiming that these are *custom* - it's literally waht they did from the OG Xbox onwards. Each gen the western games media falls for it and each gen it's the same story - they do not do custom work, they take a collection of existing IP (or near future roadmap IP) and claim it's custom.
The exact assemblage of these specific blocks will be "custom" for MS - AMD will not create the same thing for anyone else - so again if you squint you can claim it's custom.
DavidGzz
Member
So, they are doing what they always do but you'll also get access to PC (the BEST platform) only games? What is not to love? It's wild that people say PC like it's a bad thing. I wonder how the reception would be if it was a Sony/Steam hybrid console. So much different that it's crazy. You all know it. Same goes for a PSP 2 with access to Steam, etc. But of course, its MS so the hate is blatant. A platform with more freedom is bad. Walled garden or bust.
JerryinSoCal
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I have a really hard time believing that they will have a console that doesn't require you to pay to play online, that's where they've always made a huge portion of their money.
Team Andromeda
Member
That's just bullshit. The only corp that took an off the shelf part and literally did nothing with it at all! was NCL on the Switch Hell, Nintendo didn't even put its badge on the SOC
Even if they're using PC parts, you still have some customisation to shrink them down and work inside a console form factor or in the case of the Series X and PS5 add some ray tracing support at that time. Its not simply a PC GPU just put inside SOC
And I don't get why people are so against using the best tech for a console, even if it comes from PC or wherever. I couldn't give a shit that Power VR came from the PC when playing my DC, or how the Mega Drive CPU was an 'off the shelf' CPU.
The only sad part over the last few generations is both SONY and Xbox are using the same vendor for their SOC, but even then, you can get a different experience with each console
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RetroGamingUK
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They won't have a console, that's the point