hodayathink
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Memoirs of a Geisha. Which people still got pissed about because they basically pulled every Asian actor they could get, no matter what nationality they were, for a film that should have been distinctly Japanese.
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White male lead in the spec script Disney bought for the live action remake of Mulan
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Memoirs of a Geisha. Which people still got pissed about because they basically pulled every Asian actor they could get, no matter what nationality they were, for a film that should have been distinctly Japanese.
I'm all about making sure we're not represented just as jokes...but this entire blogpost was agenda pushing deliberate lies to try to start a storm on the internet to get him some hits even though he actually knows better.
They want to speak up...a year and a half after the script was bought, after multiple script rewrites have been done, after new writers were brought in to rewrite the script and have done so already once, and after they changed the character to an Asian character already.
http://www.vulture.com/2016/10/fans-dont-want-a-mulan-with-a-white-male-lead.html
What it really says is that the person who leaked it is no longer remotely relevant in any meaningful way to the production, because if they were, they might not be going off of 18 month old information. The amount of deliberate misinformation is staggering.
To borrow the truth from BronsonLee
Voted Chris Evans based on the amazing job he did in the same role with the Chinese Call of Duty: Online commercial.
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FinaruDensetsu
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If they are gonna do a mainland Chinese cast then have them speak Chinese and use English subtitles for full authenticity. But of course Disney isn't gonna do that so the right thing to do is to at least have some Chinese Americans.
BronsonLee
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Yeah that'd be stupid
broncobuster
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Hey, Chris Hemsworth gotta eat.
FinaruDensetsu
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Yup so cast Chinese Americans if they are going to speak major, major parts in English. Or else they'll have to cast Hong Kong Cantonese because not very many mainland Chinese are going to speak fluent English.
BronsonLee
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slick
Nah don't worry I got this
I'll be Mulan and the other guy
it isn't the final script (it is a year and a half old pre rough draft) - in fact, the person who wrote the blog post probably knew that the character had already been changed to asian by this point. Vulture (see earlier posts in thread) already has sources on this.
FinaruDensetsu
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andythinkpad
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Hong Konger usually have heavier accent than say foreign students from Taiwan. It has to with them learning accented English at early ages. Kind of like Indian accent. Mainland actors' English vary greatly on case to case basis.
You know Disney can cast Jay Chou. He has been in Hollywood movies and he speaks ok English.
Aren't like 95% of all Disney movies cast with white leads (including voice actors)? They're absolutely awful with casting non-whites in the lead role. This one is just more obvious because of the source material. Where have you people been for everything else Disney releases? :/
KO Traveling Hobo
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What the FUCK? This is actually disgusting.
Fake edit: oh, it's an outdated script and the white dude character has been axed? Thank god. Hopefully the part about the male love interest being the one to defeat the antagonist is wrong too.
Mulan was one of the best Disney movies. They better not fuck this up.
Fake edit: oh, it's an outdated script and the white dude character has been axed? Thank god. Hopefully the part about the male love interest being the one to defeat the antagonist is wrong too.
Mulan was one of the best Disney movies. They better not fuck this up.
So was this spec script more like self-insert fanfiction? "And then Mulan meets this handsome forty-something foreigner with blue eyes and her heart thrums in her chest. This is the moment she's always waited for, her one true love! Scott, the chiseled writer/trader, the hunk of her dreams. She didn't need a man, but she now desperately wanted one."
I wonder how big the pool of aspiring Asian-American actors is in Hollywood. It's gotta be tiny, considering they have virtually no opportunities at all.
Would it be farfetched to say there are under 100 Asian-American actors total in Hollywood?
I hope they cast some unknown Asian-American actors instead of the same 4-5 that are cast in every Asian role.
Would it be farfetched to say there are under 100 Asian-American actors total in Hollywood?
I hope they cast some unknown Asian-American actors instead of the same 4-5 that are cast in every Asian role.
hodayathink
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It absolutely isn't the final script. When they announced the movie, they stated that they already had writers re-writing whatever script this person has read. The issue here is that people are assuming that because they bought this spec script, they want to keep that aspect of it, which no one except the people that work at Disney can actually answer.
Except that the spec script was apparently written by women.
Prototype Viktor
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How could they realistically marlet this in China if the white guy is a love interest unless they will still do the thing were they don't really touch each other
Razgriz-Specter
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mugurumakensei
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Thank god. It's been so long since a white male played the main male lead. I mean it's been literally hours.
hodayathink
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Which is another reason this story never made any sense the way the original source leaked it. For me to believe that Disney was going to keep that aspect of the spec script, I'd have to believe that they didn't care at all about the Chinese market, even though they said they're specifically looking to cast a Chinese woman as Mulan.
Chris Hemsworth is the one who plays Thor. I believe you are talking about Chris Pratt.
andythinkpad
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Well we got the White Castle Asian dude, and the stereotype Asian in Hungover and...Lucy Liu.
ZackieChan
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Half of GAF should collaborate on a spec script for a "Chicken Little" remake, I think.
BLOODED_hands
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Off the top of my head of Asian American actors and actresses with some kind of recognition:
John Cho
Kal Penn
Tim Chantarangsu aka Timothydelaghetto
Jonathan Park aka Dumbfoundead
Lucy Liu
Chloe Wang, er, Bennet
Olivia Munn
Randall Park
Ken Jeong
Constance Wu
Steven Yeun
George Takei
Slight recognition:
Kevin Wu aka kevjumba
Justin Chon from 21 and Over
Vincent Rodriguez III
Will Yun Lee
Jay Park
Daniel Wu
Without cheating and going on wiki, that's 18 Asian American actors and actresses. That's... Not good. Some from my list are from youtube who have moved on to an acting career (or some sort of an acting career). I'm sure I have missed plenty of other people from youtube and in hollywood.
Would it be farfetched to say there are less than 100 Asian American actors? I hope not because if there are that is just disheartening for aspiring young Asian American's who want to get into acting.
Why do they need to be American?
Fixed2BeBroken
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I fucking knew it!!! Hollywood just cant have Asian dudes in movies be leads! I joked mulan would be cast correctly but the male lead would be Channing tatum....
I swear... this is some repugnant bullshit
I swear... this is some repugnant bullshit
ZackieChan
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Must be nice to not read beyond the title of a thread before commenting. Wait, actually, the info disputing this is in the title, so I don't even know.
Well, it'd be nice if Asian Americans could actually get more roles in an American film production.
That said, other NA/EU Asians are fine too.
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Can't say for Hollywood alone but I think there's at least 100 if you count T.V. too.Here's a list of Asian American actors who debuted on a new fall show.
hydragonwarrior
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In the end, I believe they could probably get away with an entire leading cast of non-asians except for ONE spot, who will probably be the "Seinfeld Four!" guy (who's essentially in any movie where they needed an chinese presence).
Hence, I again encourage Scarjo as Mulan.
Hence, I again encourage Scarjo as Mulan.
Fixed2BeBroken
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yea i jumped the gun a little bit and honestly didnt know what spec script means other than its like a first script? and didnt bother to look it up cause its 1:40 am and im laying down reading a gaming forum
however, im not wrong about hollywood just cant have an asian lead in shit
Fixed2BeBroken
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TV has come around in the last few years, when it comes to asian americans. Hell, fresh off the boat is the biggest example of this.
when it comes to asian americans and white washing or not including, its mostly been hollywood.
my point being, bringing up tv shit is side stepping the argument
ew both way to old.
thats how bad the asian actor recognition is. can only think of old actors in previous works because new young asian actors cant get a gig
Eh? Not sure if you're joking but... As if we didn't have enough drama when several ethnic Chinese were cast as Japanese in memoirs of a geisha. You want to cast a Japanese as a Chinese general? Do we all look the same to you or something.
Fixed2BeBroken
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honestly I have no issue with this concept. As long as asians, whether american or not, get work. It would be great if they were the same exact nationality as what the script asks, but for me whats most important is that, racially they are the same. its like Christian Bale being Batman. Nationality wise it's incorrect, but racially it's fine according to how hes written. Baby steps. Lets actually get asian actors in the roles first cause we cant even do that!
with that said, and as I said, those 2 actors are way to old for these parts
Not really sure you are limited to Asians in America, where there are a lot more Chinese American/Canadian/Britain/Australian already in Asian who are established star.
Fixed2BeBroken
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why people be forgetting my boy Ki Hong Lee?
Hes literally like the only young asian american male actor working in Hollywood.
all the other asian american males (the very few of them) are like over 40.
Hes literally like the only young asian american male actor working in Hollywood.
all the other asian american males (the very few of them) are like over 40.
Yes, surely things like language, accent, and more subtle racial features don't matter, because all Asians are the same. Thanks bro.
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