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[onQ123]

Ok but a threat to the Big 3 it isn't. Otherwise Apple and the iPhone and Samsung with Galaxy is a bigger threat, making your title wrong.

The Quest is being sold to a market as a different multipurpose device just like a phone.

Read the title again this isn't about Quest being a threat, All the big companies were threats because everyone thought one of them was going to swoop in & join the race.


Xbox even went as far as saying PlayStation & Nintendo wasn't it's competition anymore but Amazon & Google are.

Xbox Doesn't Consider Sony To Be A Main Competitor Anymore

According to the head of Xbox, Phil Spencer, the company doesn't even consider Sony to be a serious threat anymore.

www.thegamer.com

 

[HoodWinked]

Facebook is sadly one of the best run companies.

They got Instagram for extremely cheap, then got WhatsApp and also Oculus. Facebook should have faded into obscurity like myspace or friendster but somehow they continue to stick around.

 

[Three]

Read the title again this isn't about Quest being a threat, All the big companies were threats because everyone thought one of them was going to swoop in & join the race.


Xbox even went as far as saying PlayStation & Nintendo wasn't it's competition anymore but Amazon & Google are.

Xbox Doesn't Consider Sony To Be A Main Competitor Anymore

According to the head of Xbox, Phil Spencer, the company doesn't even consider Sony to be a serious threat anymore.

www.thegamer.com

This is the point though, Meta entered the VR race and not so much the "big 3" console race. In terms of development and buying up studios you're right but as a platform it's differentiated as much as a mobile is. So if Quest is a threat to the big 3 console manufacturers because it outsold it during Christmas so too are the phones Apple and Samsung sell in greater numbers. They penetrated gaming hardware much the same.

A great deal of Quest users are being advertised to with a multipurpose huge screen you can watch at the airport or do piano lessons on, a different experience, etc, etc. What would be interesting is seeing how many people buy it in place of a PS or Switch and I'd imagine that's not a huge number. Even in the VR market do they have better dev/sales support? That too would be interesting to know. It selling numbers during Christmas isn't all that important to the big 3 consoles though.

 

[Kerotan]

I firmly believe that VR will go the way of the 3D TV.

To verify my assumption I recently bought a Quest 3. I did some further research that required me to buy the following games:

- Dungeons of Eternity
- Asgard's Wrath 2
- Moss 1 & 2

My conclusion so far is that I need to buy a few more games until I have enough proof that VR is the 3D TV of the 2020s.

I think if it can hang in there it might have a place. This all depends if Sony are prepared to throw resources at this thing without ever getting much return and if Facebook are happy to lose billions although they might start getting a return as their sales aren't bad.

 

[onQ123]

This is the point though, Meta entered the VR race and not so much the "big 3" console race. In terms of development and buying up studios you're right but as a platform it's differentiated as much as a mobile is. So if Quest is a threat to the big 3 console manufacturers because it outsold it during Christmas so too are the phones Apple and Samsung sell in greater numbers. They penetrated gaming hardware much the same.

A great deal of Quest users are being advertised to with a multipurpose huge screen you can watch at the airport or do piano lessons on, a different experience, etc, etc. What would be interesting is seeing how many people buy it in place of a PS or Switch and I'd imagine that's not a huge number. Even in the VR market do they have better dev/sales support? That too would be interesting to know. It selling numbers during Christmas isn't all that important to the big 3 consoles though.

Jesus Christ!

I said the threat part wasn't about Quest but about the big companies coming in.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Nintendo : Am I a joke to you?

Spoiler

Yes

 

[Three]

Jesus Christ!

I said the threat part wasn't about Quest but about the big companies coming in.

Yeah, I got that in the thread title. But you said this

A threat to the " Big 3" PlayStation, Xbox & Nintendo

When somebody mentioned what market you're talking about.

But I'm asking what do you mean by coming in and being a threat?

Coming in and being a competitor in terms of employees and studios. Yes I very much agree. They swept away talent.

In terms of the VR market? absolutely undeniably.

In terms of being a threat to console sales? Not really. At least not as much as mobile is a threat anyway if you were to think of overlapping markets.

 

[Goalus]

I think if it can hang in there it might have a place. This all depends if Sony are prepared to throw resources at this thing without ever getting much return and if Facebook are happy to lose billions although they might start getting a return as their sales aren't bad.

If it wasn't obvious, the part with the 3D TV was sarcasm. Everything else is true though, and my mind was already kind of blown during the setup of the headset. It is impressive technology, and its Amazon sales leave all three consoles in the dust.

I come from a Gear VR that I bought nine years ago, and I could see myself getting every new Quest iteration from now on. The product is technically mature now.

 

[onQ123]

Yeah, I got that in the thread title. But you said this

When somebody mentioned what market you're talking about.

But I'm asking what do you mean by coming in and being a threat?

Coming in and being a competitor in terms of employees and studios. Yes I very much agree. They swept away talent.

In terms of the VR market? absolutely undeniably.

In terms of being a threat to console sales? Not really. At least not as much as mobile is a threat anyway if you were to think of overlapping markets.

I was still speaking of the big companies being a threat in the gaming hardware market.

They were threats before they even released any hardware.

And I'm saying out of the companies that were known threats who would have thought that it would be Facebook that would find a spot in the gaming hardware market.

 

[chromatic9]

When they bought Oculus I always thought they would be big in the business world of previewing homes yet to be built, remodels, sports viewing and other related social media things.

With gaming on facebook VR it feels like mobile phone gaming where there's this other space forming outside of the traditional PC/console gamer that had an early Oculus rift, PSVR or PC Valve contraption.

It will be interesting how they carry on growing the space. I think they did a good job which cheaper units, not tethered etc attracting the mainstream user. This Batman game is coming left field into the gamer world.

 

[Hudo]

I also didn't expect Meta to be so engaged and dominating when it comes to research on neural networks. And most of their shit is open source. On the other hand, I did not expect for Google to be so behind in that area. Dunno what happened/happens there internally.

 

[Kerotan]

If it wasn't obvious, the part with the 3D TV was sarcasm. Everything else is true though, and my mind was already kind of blown during the setup of the headset. It is impressive technology, and its Amazon sales leave all three consoles in the dust.

I come from a Gear VR that I bought nine years ago, and I could see myself getting every new Quest iteration from now on. The product is technically mature now.

I never tried out a headset before. It's a shame stalwarts like rainbow six Siege and GTA V don't have official support.

 

[MrCunningham]

( Apple, Google , Amazon , Disney etc)

It doesn't make any sense to me that Apple would go out of their way to make a dedicated game console. I know they did it once with the Pippin. But that was squashed when Steve Jobs was reinstated as CEO. To me, Apple has iOS, which is the only 'gaming platform' that they really need.

The iPod Touch back in the day was (not so) stealthy marketed as a gaming platform. Apple could just bring the iPod Touch back with higher specs. iOS already has game controller support and can stream to TV's. There are more games on iOS than there are on the MacOS platform. Look at how the iPod Touch was advertised originally. 2009 Apple had it all figured out..







Amazon. Is the most likely company. Even then, they can use their firestick like a gaming platform. Disney, would probably release something really specific. Like some sort of motion control system for children. With Disney licensed games only. It wouldn't even compete in the same market.

 

[Zacfoldor]

If they are dedicated to building this up over the next decade to become something interesting, I'm not mad about it, but I don't think they will ever succeed as long as you have to wear headgear. Honestly, that's not for everyone, which can ruin the project. Need to figure out how to make it for everyone.

 

[darrylgorn]

Nintendo : Am I a joke to you?

Spoiler

Yes

That's real? Lmao

You know, if Nintendo made their next console a purely VR platform, they would be the one to be able to put a dent in the market.

 

[flying_sq]

I don't know much about it, I know as soon as it was bought by FB, they required an FB account to use it, I stopped caring after that. It's supposed to be really cheap and offer a novel experience, so I can see why it would take off. Kind of like if google cardboard was good or something.

 

[Buggy Loop]

That's real? Lmao

You know, if Nintendo made their next console a purely VR platform, they would be the one to be able to put a dent in the market.

Nintendo Labo™ Toy-Con 04 VR Kit | Nintendo Switch | Nintendo

Introducing Nintendo Labo™ Toy-Con 04 VR Kit for Nintendo Switch. Release date: 17 January 2020.

www.nintendo.com

Yup its real

Wacky Nintendo is something else.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Most VR games look like they were made by one or two devs in their basement.

Are you confusing the kinky porn with vr games by any chance?