If there was like a special Men's Night showing for some testosterone-laden shit like a new Expendables movie in a single screening room in some specialty theater, I know I personally wouldn't give a fuck.
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Why a gay law professor is trying to shut down women-only Wonder Woman screenings.
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If there was like a special Men's Night showing for some testosterone-laden shit like a new Expendables movie in a single screening room in some specialty theater, I know I personally wouldn't give a fuck.
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Transhuman
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You get how this sets a really bad precedent though right? We all hate MRA's but even a broken clock.
Well just because you hate women and don't think they deserve the same opportunities as men doesn't make it right.
He said it would be a shitstorm, he didn't say the people complaint would be women. I agree with him too and it's why I'm not a fan of straight negating access to a certain sex or race. It just leads to shitstorms and some side racism or sexism. Just do discounts and whatnot, otherwise create atmospheres welcoming those groups you target. (Again, not that I'm personally against this stuff, just think it's too much trouble so I'd probably never do it myself if I owned a business)
MisterShine
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TimeEffect
Member
But the movie is already out right? Seems even more petty now because it's not like men are disbarred from opening night.
So anyone can buy a ticket online, including men? Does that mean men will be admitted? But that women are just encouraged? Because that language seems more acceptable than banning men outright, which I cant imagine is the language a theater would use, because it just seems unavoidable that it will run into trouble
excelsiorlef
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A man... an MRA moron even... bought a ticket and they said ok thanks for the donation and told him to enjoy the movie.
benicillin
Banned
You can't buy tickets anymore and no one knows who will be admitted which is why all this is extra dumb. But to be honest I can't imagine they would turn anyone away considering it's an event for anyone who identifies as female and any kind of discrimination in attendance could be a huge mistake on their part.
TheSkullPrince
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Fuck that guy and his false equivalency crock of shit. "Discrimination against men" Lol fuck out of here with that shit.
It's discrimination, there is no dancing around that. Although I don't think that makes it a bad thing. It's essentially a safe space for women to gather and watch one of the few female superhero films (and the first good one), a genre and market that rarely caters to them - and when it has its often been pretty sexist. The "but what if it a white only screening" comments seem to be missing the point, we don't live in an equal society, having a screening reserved for a disenfranchised group isn't the same as an exclusive screening for a group that's been the dominant and oppressive power for centuries. Think of it like a game of Mario Kart, you don't bitch that you're not getting blue shells and boosts when you're already in first place. I understand people's issue with the theater making it enforceable instead of just implying a female only screening though. After this controversy dies down, I'm fully expecting the people that seem to be complaining about it (*cough* Colin Moriarty *cough*) to start commenting on legitimate discrimination...
they won't
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Maybe because anyone who is upset about this is easily mockable?
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I dunno, but he kinda nails it.
Not really. AFAIK there are men only and women only events regularly and the Drafthouse already said men are allowed to have a men-only event if someone wants to book a space.
Having witnessed the Sarkeesian outrage, Gamergate, MRAs, red pillers, puas and Ghostbusters, girls and women seem to be still centuries behind when it comes to being toxic waste.
Hell,its quite telling that Girls Night Out is having women only screenings all over the place and thats not even remotely as controversial.
Dice//
Banned
In what way besides ""on princinple""? And what precedent? Last I can tell women are still treated pretty second class. How often does *any*part*of* this happen for women and for movies???
Seems the only person that IS getting hurt are the soft constitutions of MRA types and those who play an "equality card" without much reference to socio-historical context. Oh yeah and the fact it's a goddamn movie screening.
If I'm not allowed into every screening room, then by God man that's how we move back to the 50s!
This. They're not preventing men from going there, they're having a women only event.
TimeEffect
Member
Well in that case, I bet a lot of extra men show up just to make a point, and the whole thing is ruined as far as a Women's screening goes.
benicillin
Banned
I'm pretty sure they could technically host it as a private event and then allow or disallow anyone they wanted to, just like anyone else could, but I'm just an armchair movie theater owner/legal expert so...well actually that means I must be right.
This is such a strange, strange way to put it. The only people super concerned about men being at this showing seem to be men. And if a bunch of men did show up (they probably won't because they have to spend money and it goes to Planned Parenthood) and did anything other than watch the movie in silence, Alamo would kick them out because you can't be a dick there.
Like this whole thing is just super bizarre.
So?
ElectricBlanketFire
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This is the dumbest thing to get upset about I've seen in a long time.
Pretty confident this is illegal under the Civil Rights Act of 1964
I know lolol mras lolol, but the Civil Rights Act is pretty important, and altering it can have unexpected consequences. It certainly shouldn't be laughed off as obvious or trivial.
excelsiorlef
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They'd all have had to buy tickets in advance
Pretty confident you're wrong. Theaters like bars or any other establishment are allowed to have a women's event.
Their goal was to have a women-exclusive screening in one room and to use the money to donate to Planned Parenthood. Men got their knickers in a twist about it because they weren't invited to the party.
I don't blame them for going in.
It doesn't seem constructive.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm not saying the feminist response would be "toxic", but pretty loud, yes.
People would scream at each other on twitter and Jezebel would write articles. But nothing like the trolling rage of gamergate.
Then again I didn't think we were even close to Ghostbusters levels of male outrage towards this WW screening, but what do I know.
Durrzerker
Banned
I wonder if the people complaining about this know that they're playing right into Alamo's hand. They knew exactly what they were doing with this.
And hell I applaud their hustle. Free marketing off angry sexists is the best.
And hell I applaud their hustle. Free marketing off angry sexists is the best.
EdibleKnife
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Does it really matter much if annoying privileged pricks like this guy was part of their motivations if women still get their enjoyable ladies night out?
What is constructive about the raging response from men they got just by announcing the event?
Jack Scofield
Member
It's times like this where I wish common sense would prevail and they'd tell this dude to shove it.
TheSkullPrince
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Those poor marginalized men!
DontBeThatGuy
Member
Those feathers deserve to be ruffled.
You don't get it, what about the PRECEDENT!! Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
I think he's going at it from the wrong angle, but could see an argument as to why Alamo's decision hurts intersectionality. Alamo wants to create a safe space for women to celebrate a feminist icon, but safe spaces shouldn't be zones of exclusion, it's just that outsiders entering such spaces need to understand the intent of the space and respect it (like not hanging around in the hallway outside of an AA meeting with a bottle of beer in one hand having a grand old time).
Exposing the asses of privileged man-children seems useful IMO.
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Transhuman
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If you're saying that disagreeing with something out of principle is wrong, or that this instance of discrimination is o.k because it won't happen that often, that's a bad argument.
And implying that anyone who disagrees with you is an MRA is low.
cheezcake
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Look dude. I get that by the letter of the law it may be discrimination. What's a fucking joke is that the people who are getting this upset over the tiniest bit of discrimination imaginable, are the same people who reap the benefits of discrimination against minorities day-in-day-out and do not give a single fuck about that.
So yeh this isn't a hill I think is worth dying on.
it isn't
benicillin
Banned
The left is eating itself! This is why Trump won!
It isn't either. But them choosing to respond with mockery, rather than debate or no response at all, seems like it was intended to annoy. And that just results in more hostility.
I don't think it's helpful. It doesn't need to be but I'm just saying I didn't care for it.
excelsiorlef
Member
Alamo Drafthouse is almost entirely based on mockery and such.
benicillin
Banned
This isn't an issue that merits debate or response. It's not a debate! It's an event! Why do people like this always demand the right to have everything be a debate while they flop around like sealions?
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