Why are the CPU clocks of Switch 2 so low in docked?

In your dreams maybe.

We see you coming in Switch 2 threads not to inform anyone on the Switch 2 question with logical reason why they made the decision, you're here to say "Well well well, on PC handhelds, if you didn't know..."

The biggest PC handheld cocksucker on neogaf. Never misses a chance to promote.

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We see you coming in Switch 2 threads not to inform anyone on the Switch 2 question with logical reason why they made the decision, you're here to say "Well well well, on PC handhelds, if you didn't know..."

The biggest PC handheld cocksucker on neogaf. Never misses a chance to promote.

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Criticising an aspect that is better on one vs another =\= cocksucking/promoting. You seen personally attacked with SW2 critics.

And funny. You don't look mad by OP bringing the Series S in to the thread, but someone bringing PCs...
 
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1ghz to 2ghz seems like a lot of overclocking don't think nintendo wants lawsuits from people's houses being burnt down.
Not really. Even switch 1 clocks went up e.g. when loading. They updated switch software for that. 1.8-2ghz should not be a problem for that arm CPU. Yes, power usage would go up, but a good cooling solution should handle that.
But with such low clock speeds switch 2 is more like an overclocked switch 1 (+ more memory).
They should really have gone with at least 6 or 5nm production and not that old Samsung thing.
 
Criticising an aspect that is better on one vs another =\= cocksucking/promoting. You seen personally attacked with SW2 critics.

Nobody gives a shit how ROG Ally X is almost 3 times thicker. Why even come into this thread with this kind of crud answer "x86 handheld PCs CPUs run at 2+GHz and don't burn hand"

You know the answer, don't play dumb.
 
Why even come into this thread with this kind of crud answer "x86 handheld PCs CPUs run at 2+GHz and don't burn hand"
To say I think Nintendo fuck up with the SW2 "design" if temps are a problem for a full clocked ARM CPU in handheld mode.

Why you even came to the thread to discuss my posts and not SW2 only? /by your logic.
 
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From all the media videos I've passively seen, frustums/Draw distances look setup like Vita games compared to typical PS4 home console renders IMO, and lots of items look like they are statically lit immediately outside the foreground on Switch 1 and 2 game versions, and lots of facet edges on random items too.

Maybe it is just early days and development pipelines are still too much in Switch 1 development, but even with Switch 2 ports having performance issues they also still look like they aren't carrying a full home console workload, yet IMO.
I'm talking specifically about the Cyberpunk port where the DF comparison showed the Switch 2 version resolving more distant detail at times than even the Series S version.
 
In handheld mode I play smaller games, like Dead Cells for example. Big screen games don't feel good enough for me and I prefer playing them on TV.
This has become my strategy as well. Mostly platform or her side stroller and RPG's outside of the big big ones I've been playing on my handheld and I really enjoy it. I seem to play it more often.
 
The Switch 2 SoC seems to be running at ~15W in docked mode (total power consumption ~19W), like the Steam Deck. However, the Steam Deck looks to be about 70% thicker in the central portion. So, I don't get the complaint about the power dissipation.

The reason for the low CPU clocks is likely because the SoC only has ~7W in portable mode. (Accepting the strangeness of having slightly higher CPU clocks in this mode).
 
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You're going overboard, mate. If he bothers you then use the ignore function. Don't say you're giving up and then continue responding. For what it's worth, I agree with rodrigolfp rodrigolfp . I prefer the Steam Deck and ASUS ROG Ally design and functionality to the Nintendo Switch 2. You don't have to agree with that, but this is a forum where people are allowed to engage in constructive discourse. You were the one who responded with apparent hate/disgust because someone brought up a tangential point in regard to the OP. Your reaction was the real disruption in this thread.
 
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You're going overboard, mate. If he bothers you then use the ignore function. Don't say you're giving up and then continue responding. For what it's worth, I agree with rodrigolfp rodrigolfp . I prefer the Steam Deck and ASUS ROG Ally design and functionality to the Nintendo Switch 2. You don't have to agree with that, but this is a forum where people are allowed to engage in constructive discourse. You were the one who responded with apparent hate/disgust because someone brought up a tangential point in regard to the OP. Your reaction was the real disruption in this thread.

You see me go into every Steamdeck threads saying how I would prefer a smaller form factor? No? Take example.

How does coming in a thread with a legit question from OP helps in any way with saying how PC handhelds can clock higher? How is this of any help? Bigger heatsink, well "NiNtenDo shOudL haVE biGgeR heATsiNK!! Hur hur hur" Oh yea very helpful information. Brilliant collaboration and exchange of knowledge. We really need more posters like that! /s

"Constructive discourse"... HA! Another way of saying shitposting.
 
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You see me go into every Steamdeck threads saying how I would prefer a smaller form factor? No? Take example.
You don't need to because of how they nailed the design. Children to adults can comfortably play on them without issue.

Nintendo handhelds always have that flat shape that makes the hands cramp up with any extended play for anyone who doesn't have the small hands of a child.
 
You see me go into every Steamdeck threads saying how I would prefer a smaller form factor? No? Take example.

How does coming in a thread with a legit question from OP helps in any way with saying how PC handhelds can clock higher? How is this of any help? Bigger heatsink, well "NiNtenDo shOudL haVE biGgeR heATsiNK!! Hur hur hur" Oh yea very helpful information. Brilliant collaboration and exchange of knowledge. We really need more posters like that! /s

"Constructive discourse"... HA! Another way of saying shitposting.

The OP made a comment about CPU usage not improving (and in fact, worsening) when docked. The general consensus is that this was necessary to prevent the device from getting too warm/hot in docked mode, which would make it uncomfortable to pull off of the dock to use in handheld mode. His remark, which is valid, was that if Nintendo had marginally increased the footprint of the Switch 2, they could have implemented a better heatsink or cooling solution that would allow the CPU to run at higher clock speeds when it is docked while still keeping the device cool enough to comfortably transition back to handheld mode.

Even without increasing the size, if they had used 5nm transistors instead of 8nm transistors, this would have also allowed the CPU to run at a higher clock while docked without sacrificing cooling. The smaller transistors would have increased performance per watt while also improving power efficiency (and thermals). Additionally, that would have freed up space internally, meaning thermal hotspots would have decreased. There are ways Nintendo could have improved the design to eliminate this issue. Talking about that isn't a bad thing. Nobody is telling you that you can't like Nintendo or your Nintendo Switch 2. Take a mental health day, mate. You're going off the rails.
 
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The OP made a comment about CPU usage not improving (and in fact, worsening) when docked. The general consensus is that this was necessary to prevent the device from getting too warm/hot in docked mode, which would make it uncomfortable to pull off of the dock to use in handheld mode. His remark, which is valid, was that if Nintendo had marginally increased the footprint of the Switch 2, they could have implemented a better heatsink or cooling solution that would allow the CPU to run at higher clock speeds when it is docked while still keeping the device cool enough to comfortably transition back to handheld mode.

Even without increasing the size, if they had used 5nm transistors instead of 8nm transistors, this would have also allowed the CPU to run at a higher clock while docked without sacrificing cooling. The smaller transistors would have increased performance per watt while also improving power efficiency (and thermals). Additionally, that would have freed up space internally, meaning thermal hotspots would have decreased. There are ways Nintendo could have improved the design to eliminate this issue. Talking about that isn't a bad thing. Nobody is telling you that you can't like Nintendo or your Nintendo Switch 2. Take a mental health day, mate. You're going off the rails.
But isn't there no end to these suggestions? Nintendo could have waited ten years and the switch 2 would have been much more powerful. They could have used top of the line components and sold it for 1.500€ and it would have been much more powerful.
Yet, a lot of people complain about the price of the device as it is.
There is no pleasing everyone. I - and many others - are very happy with what we've got. Would I prefer having a couple of mm more in thickness to have a better cooling system? Yeah... Would I prefer having a chip in the dock or some overclocking to have a more powerful device? Yeah...
We can ruminate all day about what could have been, but some of the remarks in here and in other threads are just not in good faith it seems. And I have to agree...there are people who always bring up some other device that they love and when challenged it always comes down to 'you want an echo chamber of praise and love, this is a forum for discussion, live with it'
Same as in game OTs when people are constantly shitting on a game... Then when questioned say that people who like said game can leave if they only want to read praise... Not suggesting that the people in this conversation are trolls, but the amount of people going into threads just to shit on games or devices are through the roof these days
 
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