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Jocchan said:Pineapple... on pizza? Are you guys serious? :|
I trust you, but such ingredients on pizza are pretty blasphemous if you ask an Italian (as I am).The Sphinx said:Yes, it's very good when paired with select pork products.
I think I can picture it, thanks.Threi said:I wish i could transfer my middle finger through the interwebs right now.
I lack the courageSegata Sanshiro said:Oh god, Jocchan...you've never had?
DemDereNads said:No shit?!
So if the PS3 makes as much revenue as the original Xbox (basically a loss of some billions of dollars), then it's not a failure?DemDereNads said:You are throwing the terms success & failure around with no middle ground.
Gamecube made Nintendo Money
XBox got Microsoft into the Video Game Industry
PS3 will most likely end up making Sony money, as well as helping in the format war, and anyway you look at it, 8 months is way too soon to start calling things success or failure.
DemDereNads said:Your name is fitting![]()
Arde5643 said:So if the PS3 makes as much revenue as the original Xbox (basically a loss of some billions of dollars), then it's not a failure?
Tobor said:The writer of this book would disagree with you. Who are we to disagree with a published author?
belvedere said:So might Dr. Kevorkian. He has a book on Amazon too, plus he's a doctor!
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DemDereNads said:You are throwing the terms success & failure around with no middle ground.
Gamecube made Nintendo Money
XBox got Microsoft into the Video Game Industry
PS3 will most likely end up making Sony money, as well as helping in the format war, and anyway you look at it, 8 months is way too soon to start calling things success or failure.
DemDereNads said:You mean profit, not revenue.
I said PS3 will most likely end up making profit, but it's too early either way to say. I'm not going to go ahead claiming they will make a profit after bashing people for saying it won't and is going to be/already is a failure.
Jocchan said:Pineapple... on pizza? Are you guys serious? :|
mepaco said:So you think that if it makes money (Gamecube & PS3) or meets expectations (I think XBox did about what MS expected, even though they lost money) you consider them a success. So, what to you, qualifies something as a failure?
EDIT: Also, notice how well you fit in with my second option.
Sony's game division has lost 2.2 billion dollars in the last 1.25 years, and this is despite both PS2 and PSP turning a profit. PS3 has already lost more money than the PS2 has made since release.mepaco said:(which I think the PS3 eventually will be profitable).
Jonas said:Pharmacy you should take a prescription from this guy.:lol
mepaco said:So you think that if it makes money (Gamecube & PS3) or meets expectations (I think XBox did about what MS expected, even though they lost money) you consider them a success. So, what to you, qualifies something as a failure?
EDIT: Also, notice how well you fit in with my second option.
Are you really serious that you're coming back with that kind of retort here in GAF?Pharmacy said:yo momma takes a prescription from MY BALLS![]()
Pharmacy said:yo momma takes a prescription from MY BALLS![]()
Jokeropia said:Sony's game division has lost 2.2 billion dollars in the last 1.25 years, and this is despite both PS2 and PSP turning a profit. PS3 has already lost more money than the PS2 has made since release.
mepaco said:Yeah, it looks bleak right now but (assuming Sony plays it right ... which is admittedly a big assumption) I think they can turn it around a little. I still think the PS3 is a failure, just as I think the Gamecube was a failure.
:lol :lolPharmacy said:yo momma takes a prescription from MY BALLS![]()
Pharmacy said:The funniest thing is that your actually taking me seriously
With what you've been spouting so far - trust me, it's not that hard to think about you that way.Pharmacy said:The funniest thing is that your actually taking me seriously
Pharmacy said:$ONY HAS LOST. GAME OVER $ONY LOL
FUX MICRO$OFT AS WELL NINTENDO FOREVER
DemDereNads said:I feel bad for your children/future children when they don't come in 1st in a sporting event.
Presumably he didn't spend millions and millions of dollars developing his children. Then again, with the way people in the OT buy escorts...DemDereNads said:I feel bad for your children/future children when they don't come in 1st in a sporting event.
Pharmacy said:ps3 did not fail, it just didn't live up to expectations
Pharmacy said:ps3 did not fail, it just didn't live up to expectations
Sol.. said:for me, i'd break out the failure stamp a little bit into the PS4 cycle. When i see how much it has sold and if it still is selling. Then I gotta seee how much impact it had in the HD DVD market. Perhaps if anything, thats the reason the PS3 is schlumping along. Divine Retribution for tryin to get it all with one shot. You gotta admit theres more to win and loose with the PS3 than with any other system.
Is it so hard to say the PS3 is failing...and not FAILED?
besada said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure
"In general, failure refers to the state or condition of not meeting a desirable or intended objective."
mepaco said:How hard is it to understand that I think it is a failure because it has not come close to meeting Sony's expectations (which is very different from the scenario you describe). This is how businesses see things. You have to evaluate your alternatives based on their expected performance. If they don't go as planned, then your choices were poor and the product has largely failed because one of the other alternatives could have lead to bigger profits if your expectations were closer to reality.
DemDereNads said:Perhaps you would have some point if it didn't just come out 8 months ago? Kind of falls into my point.
Draft said:Presumably he didn't spend millions and millions of dollars developing his children. Then again, with the way people in the OT buy escorts...
DemDereNads said:I feel bad for your children/future children when they don't come in 1st in a sporting event.
Pharmacy said:hahaha, wikipedia, seriously?
Pharmacy said:hahaha, wikipedia, seriously?
besada said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure
"In general, failure refers to the state or condition of not meeting a desirable or intended objective."
expectation is what is considered the most likely to happen
involves setting specific, measurable and time targeted objectives
DemDereNads said:But he spent millions and millions of dollars in Sony?![]()
I feel that options 1 and 2 are at least defensible positions. It is the third that I take issue with, or those that think the PS3 will rocket into first place (in terms of market share) and start raking in the cash when they are still selling at a loss (or close to it).mepaco said:I think this is easy. Lets just look at history to determine your attitude. Based on what we have seen so far, you have three choices:
1) If you think that the Gamecube was a failure and the PS3 is a failure then you judge failure by expectations, market position, and support.
2) If you think that the Gamecube was a success and the PS3 is a success then you consider making a profit to be a success (which I think the PS3 eventually will be profitable).
3) If you think one was a failure and the other a success, then you are a fanboy.
StevieP said:The PS3 isn't going to dramatically change where it's at right now. Just so you know.
Well, if it makes you feel better, I am sure Nintendo could give Sony a neat little ribbon that says "We're all Winners!"
Pharmacy said:Failure is such a strong word in this context, it sounds like Sony didn't sell a single console. Under-achieving sounds much better.
That's fine, but if you go by the definition that making a profit = success, it is very probable that Gamecube is the only success of the two.mepaco said:I still think the PS3 is a failure, just as I think the Gamecube was a failure.
BenNX74205 said:A rose by any other name......
Jokeropia said:That's fine, but if you go by the definition that making a profit = success, it is very probable that Gamecube is the only success of the two.
Count Dookkake said:A turd by any other name still effing stinks.