Why Did The PS3 Fail?

Everything I bolded is exactly what the Wii is doing right. How can it not be about the Wii?
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What I meant is that this is not a sum zero game. Had Sony / Microsoft did everything alright and releasing a true sucessor to the ps2 (a hardcore gaming machine with advanced graphics for its time yet an easy set up and reasonable price), they would be selling more but, the wii sales would be unaffected. The downfall of the HD consoles is not because the Wii is doing well, but their own fault. I really doubt that if the Wii hadn't existed the ps360 would be moving more systems.
 
Ikael said:
What I meant is that this is not a sum zero game. Had Sony / Microsoft did everything alright and releasing a true sucessor to the ps2 (a hardcore gaming machine with advanced graphics for its time yet an easy set up and reasonable price), they would be selling more but, the wii sales would be unaffected. The downfall of the HD consoles is not because the Wii is doing well, but their own fault. I really doubt that if the Wii hadn't existed the ps360 would be moving more systems.
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Wait, 360 is dead now too? This is news.
 
Ikael said:
What I meant is that this is not a sum zero game. Had Sony / Microsoft did everything alright and releasing a true sucessor to the ps2 (a hardcore gaming machine with advanced graphics for its time yet an easy set up and reasonable price), they would be selling more but, the wii sales would be unaffected. The downfall of the HD consoles is not because the Wii is doing well, but their own fault. I really doubt that if the Wii hadn't existed the ps360 would be moving more systems.
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I see what you mean now. We'll never know what would have happened now, will we?
 
Pureauthor said:
Current game library, sure. And that the X360 has been out longer is absolutely no reason to say the fact that the current X360 library stomps the PS3 library into the mud is somehow irrelevant. If a consumer walks into a store and chooses between the two, he's not going to say to himself 'Hmm, the X360 has more games I want - but only because it's been out longer. PS3 it is!"

Microsoft planned an early launch - and they took some lumps for it too, in case you forgot. This is their payoff.
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Just making sure you weren't implying Xbox360 had superior hardware.
 
part of the problem is sony's poor marketing of PS3 in mainstream media...or lack thereof......

anyone even so much as seen a warhawk commercial on US TV???? how bout lair, which came out a week ago???? I have seen a few Heavenly sword tv spots on late night tv, but there needs to be more massive ad campaign.....somethin like ads during the VMA awards or somethin....

cmon sony..get with the program
 
:lol same old bullshit, no system ahs fail yet, the damn thing has not even been out a whole year. It never goes away, I just laugh it off.While people bitch about how the PS3 is doing, real gamers will be enjoying it. :D
 
Grecco said:
4 years too soon? Really?
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I guess it depends on what's actually written in the book. If it talks about the PS3's failure to maintain market domination, then yeah putting it out now is fine. If it deems the PS3 as a failure overall then it's too early.
 
frAntic_Frog said:
part of the problem is sony's poor marketing of PS3 in mainstream media...or lack thereof......

anyone even so much as seen a warhawk commercial on US TV???? how bout lair, which came out a week ago???? I have seen a few Heavenly sword tv spots on late night tv, but there needs to be more massive ad campaign.....somethin like ads during the VMA awards or somethin....

cmon sony..get with the program
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This is true, I can't go 5 feet without seeing some Halo 3 merchandise or signage. Sony needs to step it up.
 
Master Z said:
I guess it depends on what's actually written in the book. If it talks about the PS3's failure to maintain market domination, then yeah putting it out now is fine. If it deems the PS3 as a failure overall then it's too early.
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Agreed, way to ealry i really hope no one is in this topic saying the PS3 is a failure already, no one can be that stupid, can they?
 
Loudninja said:
Agreed, way to ealry i really hope no one is in this topic saying the PS3 is a failure already, no one can be that stupid, can they?
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This thread is just set to infinite loop at this point.
 
Loudninja said:
Agreed, way to ealry i really hope no one is in this topic saying the PS3 is a failure already, no one can be that stupid, can they?
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Most of us that talked about the PS3 as a failure meant it in the context of it being the successor to two of the highest selling consoles in history. It also goes in line with Sony's expectations pre PS3 launch.

An example of a "failure" in the same sense is the PSP. Sony set out to take the market from Nintendo and dominate it the same way the playstation did when they released it. The console didn't do it, but became the most successful challenger to Nintendo in the handheld relm and it is the 2nd highest selling "current gen console" easily dominating the 3rd place challenger. It is damn successful in its own right, but when compared to Sony's expectations pre-launch it is a failure.
 
Loudninja said:
Agreed, way to ealry i really hope no one is in this topic saying the PS3 is a failure already, no one can be that stupid, can they?
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Dude, you missed your left turn. You oughta go that way --------------------->
 
Kintaro said:
Wait, 360 is dead now too? This is news.
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just look at its atrocious software sales!


Loudninja said:
:lol same old bullshit, no system ahs fail yet, the damn thing has not even been out a whole year. It never goes away, I just laugh it off.While people bitch about how the PS3 is doing, real gamers will be enjoying it. :D
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aren't you that joker from the ps3forums?

Keep living that dream, buddy.
 
Haunted One said:
just look at its atrocious software sales!



aren't you that joker from the ps3forums?

Keep living that dream, buddy.
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LMAO, thats all you going to say?keep living the dream?let me guess you dont have a PS3?
 
What if he is from the ps3forums? He makes far more sense than people calling a PS3 a failure, and then pulling some random BS explanation out like "it failed to keep Sony's dominance!"

In that case, Wii & DS are failures because they have yet to sell more LTD than their ancestors...

360 is a continued failure because Microsoft still hasn't made any money...

Go play some games other than System Warz.
 
I'm sorry but I can't hold back. I don't know why the PS3 gets so much stick whilst the Wii seems to be greater than thou right now. The PS3 has far more decent game than the Wii. It has a decent online service. It's an HD media centre. What does the Wii have? The weather channel, that's what. People should also stop complaining about price. $500 is nothing. Over here where I live I paid £425, that's $850, and I still think it was worth the money. Any person on a half decent salary can save up for a PS3 within a few weeks.

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Loudninja said:
LMAO, thats all you goping to say?keep living the dream?let me guess you dont have a PS3?
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For good reason too - the software lineup is pretty atrocious compared with 360 and pretty bad compared with Wii.
 
FabCam said:
I'm sorry but I can't hold back. I don't know why the PS3 gets so much stick whilst the Wii seems to be greater than thou right now. The PS3 has far more decent game than the Wii. It has a decent online service. It's an HD media centre. What does the Wii have? The weather channel, that's what. People should also stop complaining about price. $500 is nothing. Over here where I live I paid £425, that's $850, and I still think it was worth the money. Any person on a half decent salary can save up for a PS3 within a few weeks.

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Arde5643 said:
For good reason too - the software lineup is pretty atrocious compared with 360 and pretty bad compared with Wii.
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360 you have a point, which it should after being out much longer... but Wii?

I take it you don't have a PS3.
 
Woooo - here comes the juniors from the PS3forums.

Let the massive meltdown begin - and we haven't even come near NPD day yet.:lol
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
Slow down when you type, son. You seem to know how to spell just fine, but you're jumbling up the order of the letters and it makes you look like you nosh on paint chips.
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Sorry about that.:D
 
FabCam said:
I'm sorry but I can't hold back. I don't know why the PS3 gets so much stick whilst the Wii seems to be greater than thou right now. The PS3 has far more decent game than the Wii. It has a decent online service. It's an HD media centre. What does the Wii have? The weather channel, that's what. People should also stop complaining about price. $500 is nothing. Over here where I live I paid £425, that's $850, and I still think it was worth the money. Any person on a half decent salary can save up for a PS3 within a few weeks.

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$500 is still alot to the average consumer & households...but $500 buys a nice entertainment hub....sony needs to market their PSN more.....ad campaigns showing off new PSN download games and get their movies/music download working asap.
I agree that PS3 gets a lot of shit even though sonys been improving the systems functions thru downloads and the demo updates in the PSN is admirable. wtf does wii have except pushin out more accessories and minigames marketed as full priced fares? there even any full hearted download service besides $8 for 10 yr old N64 games? liek demos?
 
Loudninja said:
See that’s the problem, it so easy to talk about something you do not have.
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I have to buy one to understand that it's not selling? :lol :lol Please come to the next NPD thread, friend, we'll have a ball.
 
Easy way to solve these problems too. Get all 3 systems. All three systems have their advantages. My Wii just gathers dust right now, but by December it shall have some good games. I'm addicted to Warhawk on PS3 and I'mm looking forward to getting a 360 next year.

What is this "console war"?
 
Tobor said:
I don't know anyone who does outside of GAF.
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Umm, proud to say I don't either :p

I know two people with a Wii, and one with a 360.

Two Wii owners are as casual as they come, and the 360 owner is a young kid who pretty much put his life savings into it. :lol
 
frAntic_Frog said:
$500 is still alot to the average consumer & households...but $500 buys a nice entertainment hub....sony needs to market their PSN more.....ad campaigns showing off new PSN download games and get their movies/music download working asap.
I agree that PS3 gets a lot of shit even though sonys been improving the systems functions thru downloads and the demo updates in the PSN is admirable. wtf does wii have except pushin out more accessories and minigames marketed as full priced fares? there even any full hearted download service besides $8 for 10 yr old N64 games? liek demos?
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It's all about the sales... diiiirrrrr.
 
FabCam said:
What is this "console war"?
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It's the funnest game out there. It's a war fought with feelings so people are particularly passionate about the game. You are missing out by pretending to be rational.
 
tehbear said:
It's the funnest game out there. It's a war fought with feelings so people are particularly passionate about the game. You are missing out by pretending to be rational.
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Hmm, maybe I should try it out sometime... :lol
 
Tobor said:
You do realize your at GAF, right? Do you have the PS3 forums on another tab and forgot which one you were posting at?
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So you not going to answer my question? instead you going to ask a useless one?
 
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