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Hoo-doo

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Does it do anything with the high score table, like track your previous scores, and those of others on the system? (And ideal friends but maybe that's pushing it for Nintendo)

Oh undoubtedly it does, but only scores and leaderboards don't really do it for me.
 
Progression as in you play and beat a few levels, you save and you pick up later, eventually finishing the game.

Some of the games, like Pikmin have progression. Most don't. It definitely feels like someone cobbled together a bunch of cheap iPhone games and made one big game out of it for 60 dollars, which is a ripoff imo. The coolest part about Nintendoland is the plaza. At least for me. And the Plinko machine.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
would not pay $60. i got it with my deluxe. if you intend to use your wii u for party gaming at all though i'd say it's a must-have. kind of surprised anyone would think it's anything other than a basic party game though.
 
Really doubting my deluxe model right now after Vinny ripping on it on the Bombcast. Having zero actual progression would fucking kill any excitement i'd have playing these games. And seeing as how I will spend 99,9% of my gametime playing by myself I don't think that it's worth it anymore.

Thing is, it's pretty much the only game I was somewhat interested in, the rest of the launch lineup is pretty damn barren.

I think nintendo land is pretty much a family game (in the good sense). They shouldnt have tied the black wiiu to nintendoland.

but..Not interested in zombie u?
It is a bit harsh saying it is la barren launch line. That been said this is my first console since i got rid of the wii and 360 right after mario galaxy so i am pretty excited.
 

Effect

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The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, and Sniper Elite V2 have been added to NewEgg.com. Sniper is listed as being $49.99 while the others are $59.99. No new coupons from NewEgg yet though. However you can preorder the games if you wish.

I thought Sniper Elite V2 was going to be a new game that was getting a Wii U version. It's another port though. :(

Was wrong. Got the sniper games mixed up. Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 is the new game using the CryEngine 3. Guess this means Sniper Elite V2 is also coming but I wonder why even bother porting that.
 
He just realized it has zero actual progression in the games. You play for 15 minutes and get bored and want to play something else, guess what, you're playing the exact same stuff again next time you boot it up. In most games there's no level select or progression.

It's my own damn fault for thinking there were actual real, full, single-player games in there instead of quirky score-a-thons. That coupled with the fact that it isn't all that fun to play by yourself and you've got a game I know I would get tired of within minutes, especially since streams and other footage have pretty much shown 90% of everything there is to do already.

I get that other people love that style of gameplay though, but i'm really not one of them.

GiantBomb and Wii U don't mix I heard that podcast and I found them talking about shopping for beds more pleasant even skipped ahead when I got tired of the Wii U bashing, but I am kinda shocked anyone here would be so focused on NintendoLand being anything more than a time waster
 
Mass Effect 3 Wii U is getting pretty high scores across the board so far. Other than the obvious issue with DLC, it appears to be one of the better Wii U launch titles.
 

boxter432

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Progression as in you play and beat a few levels, you save and you pick up later, eventually finishing the game.

Metroid, Zelda and Pikmin all have that... All with 2 different playstyles (Zelda arrow or sword, Metroid with Ship or Arm cannon, Pikmin as olimar or a pikmin)...
 

Gannd

Banned
He just realized it has zero actual progression in the games. You play for 15 minutes and get bored and want to play something else, guess what, you're playing the exact same stuff again next time you boot it up. In most games there's no level select or progression.

It's my own damn fault for thinking there were actual real, full, single-player games in there instead of quirky score-a-thons. That coupled with the fact that it isn't all that fun to play by yourself and you've got a game I know I would get tired of within minutes, especially since streams and other footage have pretty much shown 90% of everything there is to do already.

I get that other people love that style of gameplay though, but i'm really not one of them.

They're arcade games. They were never positioned as a single-playing progression game. It's a party game. I don't see why you're so shocked by this.
 

Bisnic

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Mass Effect 3 Wii U is getting pretty high scores across the board so far. Other than the obvious issue with DLC, it appears to be one of the better Wii U launch titles.

I thought it had audio and framerate issues?

And i suppose it will get Leviathan and Omega one day, once Nintendo do something about DLCs on Wii U.
 

Fess

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Seems like no one once to answer that question, but it was assumed that it don't work with two Wii consoles.
I googled a bit and found out that it actually do work :)

Can Data From Multiple Wiis Be Transferred to a Single Wii U?
Answer:

Yes, Wii Shop purchases and Wii Points will be combined. However, there are numerous items that will be replaced during this transfer process:

* Download content and save data for software titles that exist on both systems will be replaced by the save data and add-on content from the last system to perform the transfer.

* Mii characters in the Wii Menu of the target Wii U console and the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection ID of the target Wii U console will be replaced with the Mii characters and the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection ID of the last source system to perform the transfer.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wiiu/en_na/system_system_transfer.jsp


Awesome!
Now we only have to fight about whos save data that we should keep..
 
Mass Effect 3 Wii U is getting pretty high scores across the board so far. Other than the obvious issue with DLC, it appears to be one of the better Wii U launch titles.

I am saving it for last. Right now AC3 seems to have captured my focus. I played some ME3 still early on but I want to take that slow. Omega DLC seems to be reviewing on the shitty end anyway.

It has most of the other DLCs on disc right?
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
He just realized it has zero actual progression in the games. You play for 15 minutes and get bored and want to play something else, guess what, you're playing the exact same stuff again next time you boot it up. In most games there's no level select or progression.

It's my own damn fault for thinking there were actual real, full, single-player games in there instead of quirky score-a-thons. That coupled with the fact that it isn't all that fun to play by yourself and you've got a game I know I would get tired of within minutes, especially since streams and other footage have pretty much shown 90% of everything there is to do already.

I get that other people love that style of gameplay though, but i'm really not one of them.

I'm a little puzzled at how anybody with the Internet at their disposal could believe that Nintendoland was filled with full-length single-player games.
 
I thought it had audio and framerate issues?

Yep, it has both, but the framerate issues are limited to times when there's a bunch of characters on screen at the same time.

I am saving it for last. Right now AC3 seems to have captured my focus. I played some ME3 still early on but I want to take that slow. Omega DLC seems to be reviewing on the shitty end anyway.

It has most of the other DLCs on disc right?

It has Arrival and the extended ending on disc. Not sure about the gun packs or appearance pack.
 

Bisnic

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Yep, it has both, but the framerate issues are limited to times when there's a bunch of characters on screen at the same time.



It has Arrival and the extended ending on disc. Not sure about the gun packs or appearance pack.

But Arrival is a ME2 DLC. :p

From the Ashes, that includes the extra squadmate, would be more right.

Oh yeah, and multiplayer DLCs too, although i can't say if they have the latest one with Collectors.
 

Gannd

Banned
I didn't really think that. I just thought there would be some meat to the games.

How? Why? What did Nintendo do to give you that impression? Every step of the way they've been very clear that they were not doing that. Nintendo has been very upfront about what Nintendo Land is and isn't. It's a party game. That is your own fault.
 

Linkhero1

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I'm a little puzzled at how anybody with the Internet at their disposal could believe that Nintendoland was filled with full-length single-player games.

Likewise. It's like thinking Mario Party games are a full-length, meaty, single player experience.

I didn't really think that. I just thought there would be some meat to the games.

It's been regarded as the Wii Sports for the Wii U. It should have been obvious that they weren't trying to make the experience difficult for anyone to jump into, meaning there was no way Nintendo would have made this the experience you had hoped for. It's just a bunch of minigames you play with family and friends. Not saying that's bad. It's actually a great experience.
 
But Arrival is a ME2 DLC. :p

From the Ashes, that includes the extra squadmate, would be more right.

Oh yeah, and multiplayer DLCs too, although i can't say if they have the latest one with Collectors.

Haha whoops. From Ashes is what I meant. I had just read the Eurogamer review of Omega, so Arrival was on my brain. They compared Omega to being as bad/boring as Arrival. Bullet dodged, Wii U. I hated Arrival.
 

Effect

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I have a concern that Mass Effect 3's servers will be shut down by EA sooner rather then later once they get sales numbers. They're not against shutting down a game's servers mere months after it's release.
 

Bisnic

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Haha whoops. From Ashes is what I meant. I had just read the Eurogamer review of Omega, so Arrival was on my brain. They compared Omega to being as bad/boring as Arrival. Bullet dodged, Wii U. I hated Arrival.

Omega is not as bad as Arrival though.

It's not as good as Leviathan, but it's definitely not as bad as Arrival.
 

Madouu

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Some of the games, like Pikmin have progression. Most don't. It definitely feels like someone cobbled together a bunch of cheap iPhone games and made one big game out of it for 60 dollars, which is a ripoff imo. The coolest part about Nintendoland is the plaza. At least for me. And the Plinko machine.

I feel that you are harsh in saying all of the games are cheap Iphone ones, but I agree with your opinion that it shouldn't have been a $60 game.

Some games have a surprising amount of depth. DK crash course controls magnificiently, has a really great level design for a game of this type and appeals to the competitive minded through the possibility of finding shortcuts, sharing high scores/speedruns on miiverse etc.

I have been reading a lot of positive comments on the three muliplayer games too even though I haven't been able to test them yet in an optimal setting.

I do dislike the three cooperative mini games. Even though I am a huge fan of Pikmin for example, the minigame just feels too shallow and is uninteresting to me compared to the full game. Same goes for the other two.

Cheap iphone games is definitely harsh but yeah, a 40 bucks entry fee for this game would've been more logical. I still think that buying the basic model and grabbing Nintendo Land for around this price is the best deal anyone can get (barring specific console packs for people who are interested in certain games) because it shows a lot of what this console is about.
 
I'm a little puzzled at how anybody with the Internet at their disposal could believe that Nintendoland was filled with full-length single-player games.

Because people like Giantbomb like to talk about the game in ways that it should have been more than it is?

early on in the year you hear ah I am expecting another tech demo, after they get it oh this is just lazy Nintendo why do I have to start these stages over? Why can't I continue where I last died? What is this shit? (Duh)

They could have put some time into ZombiU and talked about it even bashed it and it would be worth a listen but NintendoLand was the game they wanted to talk about. They forgot all about the low expectations really fast.


Haha whoops. From Ashes is what I meant. I had just read the Eurogamer review of Omega, so Arrival was on my brain. They compared Omega to being as bad/boring as Arrival. Bullet dodged, Wii U. I hated Arrival.

Bullet Dodged is not known until the next Wii U update with a DLC patch. Who knows how far EA wants to go to cash in. $15 on eShop for OMEGA in August 2013 I bet. Wii U dodged nothing.
 

Gannd

Banned
I feel that you are harsh in saying all of the games are cheap Iphone ones, but I agree with your opinion that it shouldn't have been a $60 game.

Some games have a surprising amount of depth. DK crash course controls magnificiently, has a really great level design for a game of this type and appeals to the competitive minded through the possibility of finding shortcuts, sharing high scores/speedruns on miiverse etc.

I have been reading a lot of positive comments on the three muliplayer games too even though I haven't been able to test them yet in an optimal setting.

I do dislike the three cooperative mini games. Even though I am a huge fan of Pikmin for example, the minigame just feels too shallow and is unintersting to me compared to the full game. Same goes for the other two.

Cheap iphone games is definitely harsh but yeah, a 40 bucks entry fee for this game would've been more logical. I still think that buying the basic model and grabbing Nintendo Land for around this price is the best deal anyone can get (barring specific console packs for people who are interested in certain games) because it shows a lot of what this console is about.

I guess it depends on how you view it. The game features 12 mini-games and that's $5 a game. I think it should have been a free pack-in like Wii Sports was but I don't think it's overpriced when you think of it as a $5 a mini-game title.
 

Gannd

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Because people like Giantbomb like to talk about the game in ways that it should have been more than it is?

early on in the year you hear ah I am expecting another tech demo, after they get it oh this is just lazy Nintendo why do I have to start these stages over? Why can't I continue where I last died? What is this shit? (Duh)

They could have put some time into ZombiU and talked about it even bashed it and it would be worth a listen but NintendoLand was the game they wanted to talk about. They forgot all about the low expectations really fast.

I think it's because they want to find reasons to complain and if they talked about Zombie U that they couldn't really do that (based on their prior conversations on that game). Nintendo was very upfront with what Nintendo Land is, people shouldn't be surprised and for what it is, it's pretty enjoyable. I just wish it was a free pack-in title.
 
I didn't really think that. I just thought there would be some meat to the games.

If you're comparing it to Wii Sports, there's FAR more meat to the games, and as with tons and tons of more recent first party Nintendo software, what may seem somewhat shallow and simplistic on the outside is hiding awesome depth and strategy for those who are willing to seek it out.
 
Mass Effect 3 Wii U is getting pretty high scores across the board so far. Other than the obvious issue with DLC, it appears to be one of the better Wii U launch titles.

I played ME1 on my laptop at 20-25 fps. I quite enjoyed though.
I hear ME2 is great. Hype building up.
I consider PS3 expecting revision would be around £100.
It is a lot more. I lean towards ninty
EA releases ME3 for an audience thay probably hasn't played the previous games.


what to expect:
EA says me3 port has poor sales
EA won't publish trilogy to Wii U
 

Gannd

Banned
I played ME1 on my laptop at 20-25 fps. I quite enjoyed though.
I hear ME2 is great. Hype building up.
I consider PS3 expecting revision would be around £100.
It is a lot more. I lean towards ninty
EA releases ME3 for an audience thay probably hasn't played the previous games.


what to expect:
EA says me3 port has poor sales
EA won't publish trilogy to Wii U

I don't know why they just didn't release the ME Trilogy on the WiiU. That makes a whole lot more sense.
 

Madouu

Member
If you're comparing it to Wii Sports, there's FAR more meat to the games, and as with tons and tons of more recent first party Nintendo software, what may seem somewhat shallow and simplistic on the outside is hiding awesome depth and strategy for those who are willing to seek it out.

Yup this sums it up pretty well. The accusations of it being a lazy effort aren't fair at all in my opinion. I'd argue that it is quite the contrary, especially for a launch title even if I do not agree with the pricing.
 
I don't know why they just didn't release the ME Trilogy on the WiiU. That makes a whole lot more sense.

it seems like a lot of wasted work went into ME3 Special Edition when people could have been fine with straight port of Trilogy. My bet is they still put Trilogy versions up on eShop as separate SKUs next year smh
 
Nintendo Land has more value with people to play multiplayer with. The problem is that some of the single player mini-games don't have enough stages to play (like F-Zero or Baloon Fight.)
 
So my fiance loves Nintendo Land. This is incredible because she hates video games. She didn't even like Wii Sports. But she loves Mario Chase, Zelda Battle Quest and Luigi's Ghost Mansion.

Oh, and whenever any of us gets coins, she has to be the one to play Pachinko. Everytime. I haven't played Pachinko in over three days because of her, hahaha.
 

sinnergy

Member
Preorderd mine for 329 euro premium with Nintendoland at Mediamarkt NL, can't wait! , but I must :(

The first console of next gen, gonna collect them all! (again ;) )
 

Bisnic

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I don't know why they just didn't release the ME Trilogy on the WiiU. That makes a whole lot more sense.

I heard EA wasn't even interested in bringing Mass Effect to Wii U and that it was only the perseverance of the Straight Right guys for convincing them that made it possible to have ME3.

But with the (assumed) poor sales of ME3 Wii U, good luck convincing EA again for the Trilogy package on Wii U Straight Right, nice try though!
 
I heard EA wasn't even interested in bringing Mass Effect to Wii U and that it was only the perseverance of Straight Right guys that made it possible to have ME3.

But with the (assumed) poor sales of ME3 Wii U, good luck convincing EA again for the Trilogy package on Wii U Straight Right, nice try though!

I never understood why some publishers even released ports of older games anyways. ME3, Arkham City, etc. I understand BLOPS2 and AssCreed III since those are new and there's demand for them, but it doesn't make sense releasing such old games that everyone who wanted to play them has already played.
 

Bisnic

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I never understood why some publishers even released ports of older games anyways. ME3, Arkham City, etc. I understand BLOPS2 and AssCreed III since those are new and there's demand for them, but it doesn't make sense releasing such old games that everyone who wanted to play them has already played.

Well, i know it might be hard to believe, but some people do not have a 360, a PS3 or a gaming PC. I know, shocking! D:
 

onipex

Member
I never understood why some publishers even released ports of older games anyways. ME3, Arkham City, etc. I understand BLOPS2 and AssCreed III since those are new and there's demand for them, but it doesn't make sense releasing such old games that everyone who wanted to play them has already played.

It would have made more sense to release the trilogy on Wii U , but I can't remember the last time third parties did anything that made sense on Nintendo hardware.
 
I heard EA wasn't even interested in bringing Mass Effect to Wii U and that it was only the perseverance of the Straight Right guys for convincing them that made it possible to have ME3.

But with the (assumed) poor sales of ME3 Wii U, good luck convincing EA again for the Trilogy package on Wii U Straight Right, nice try though!

How could it not have poor sales, though? Brand new console, limited userbase, part 3 only of a 3 part series, priced 40 dollars over the PS3/360 versions. Sounds like the perfect recipe for a failure.
 

moonbox

Banned
It would have made more sense to release the trilogy on Wii U , but I can't remember the last time third parties did anything that made sense on Nintendo hardware.

The Mass Effect Trilogy would have been absolutely amazing on Wii U. Experiencing that series through the intimacy of the Wii U gamepad would just be... Completely amazing. Sitting on my bed, with my earphones in, completely engaged, positively emersed in that beautiful sci-fi world. Man... :(
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I never understood why some publishers even released ports of older games anyways. ME3, Arkham City, etc. I understand BLOPS2 and AssCreed III since those are new and there's demand for them, but it doesn't make sense releasing such old games that everyone who wanted to play them has already played.

On one hand, it may be a bit of an assumption that everyone who wanted to play them already has. I know it's hard to conceive for the GAF audience, but there may be an unknown number of upgrading Wii owners who didn't have one of the HD twins. And so may be interested in famous games like Arkham City.

On the other hand, it could just as easily be a relatively cheap, disposable way to test the Wii U market for so-called hardcore games. From the publishers perspective at least, which doesn't have to many any sense. (Given how little sense some publisher decisions make.)

Ultimately it could just be about image. Wii U launching with a stable of "competitive" games is a very different situation from Wii's launch, where it was outclassed on day one by having zero games that the other hot consoles were launching with. The maturation of the game market and the length of this generation may theoretically provide Wii U a bit of a boost there. As seen over Black Friday, the 360 is still selling plenty of consoles. It's still a hot item, its big games still pretty major releases. Whether or not it does any good in the long term, the strategy surrounding the U feels as if it's banking on using at least a limited window of (general) software parity to establish Wii U as a console on equal footing with the other brand labels.

Personally, I also do believe that some 3rd parties may be sincere when they say they want Wii U to succeed. The only truth I think there ever was behind the conspiracy theories surrounding 3rd parites hating Wii, is that Wii caught everyone totally offguard. And 3rd parties may have wished that they wouldn't have to completely stop, spin, and retool to deal with this new reality. By contrast, we're at the tail end of a generation that's been very hard on many, and resulted in a lot of uncertainty about sustainability. It could be that some publishers DO wish Wii U will become somewhat as big as Wii was, so that there's a viable alternative platform to the Super HD Twins... in case cost increases do run out of control and bite everyone in the ass. I have to think some execs see in hindsight that they left money on the table with Wii, that a few companies like Ubisoft capitalized on.
 

Bisnic

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How could it not have poor sales, though? Brand new console, limited userbase, part 3 only of a 3 part series, priced 40 dollars over the PS3/360 versions. Sounds like the perfect recipe for a failure.

Every excuses is a good excuse to not support Nintendo consoles, haven't you learned yet? :p

"Oh this game had poor sales because of stupid marketing decisions/cheap spinoff instead of main title/rushed development/etc.? Series is doomed on this console, let's give up!"
 

Kevtones

Member
The Mass Effect Trilogy would have been absolutely amazing on Wii U. Experiencing that series through the intimacy of the Wii U gamepad would just be... Completely amazing. Sitting on my bed, with my earphones in, completely engaged, positively emersed in that beautiful sci-fi world. Man... :(



I said this back in May when they announced it or whenever. That would've been an AWESOME launch trilogy :(
 
Every excuses is a good excuse to not support Nintendo consoles, haven't you learned yet? :p

"Oh this game had poor sales because of stupid marketing decisions/cheap spinoff instead of main title/rushed game/etc.? Series is doomed on this console, let's give up!"

It's a shame though. When you read the Miiverse channel for the game, there's a lot of love for the game.
 

Bisnic

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It's a shame though. When you read the Miiverse channel for the game, there's a lot of love for the game.

Which reminds me i need to check it again, i loved seeing those Garrus "calibration jokes" drawings a few days ago. :p

I would gladly pay again for ME3 on Wii U if it wasn't sold at fucking 60 dollars. Which is like 20-30 more dollars than the other versions and the same price as the Trilogy.

Well, maybe ask it as a christmas gift i guess.
 
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