Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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MrBelmontvedere said:
Wasn't that same argument used when Nintendo decided to drop the immensely popular Game Boy brand name? Even though the DS was initially deemed a third pillar, abandoning the Game Boy name didn't seem to hurt them. Or if it did, they at least managed to recover, and the DS then went on to become their most popular handheld ever.
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Calling it Wii 2 would be more straightforward.
donny2112 said:
That's the funniest thing I have heard all day.
It's good to see that Nintendo is thinking early on about things like game demos.
Stuff like that should be offered from the start of the console's release, not years after. Wii didn't get downloadable DS demos via Nintendo Channel until May 2008.
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Not an area Nintendo is focussing on.
The 3D television market "is not expanding enough" for Nintendo to consider making 3D a focus for the Wii U, but says the new console is technically able to support the medium, Nintendo President Satoru Iwata has told Mercury Evening News
"If you are going to connect Wii U with a home TV capable of displaying 3-D images, technologically, yes, it is going to be possible, but that's not the area we are focusing on," said Iwata.
He further explained: "When it comes to 3D, we already have the 3DS, and each owner of the Nintendo 3DS is capable of viewing 3D images. However, when it comes to the home console, it depends upon the availability of 3D TV sets at home, which, unfortunately, is not expanding enough."
He concluded: "Rather than pouring a lot of energy into that kind of area, with the Wii U we'd like to focus more on each Wii U owner being able to have an equal opportunity to enjoy it."
Gearbox has stated that the Wii U will be able to produce better textures than current consoles, so the machine is clearly going to be more than capable of running games in 3D too.
Wii U will be released in 2012.
The 3D television market "is not expanding enough" for Nintendo to consider making 3D a focus for the Wii U, but says the new console is technically able to support the medium, Nintendo President Satoru Iwata has told Mercury Evening News
"If you are going to connect Wii U with a home TV capable of displaying 3-D images, technologically, yes, it is going to be possible, but that's not the area we are focusing on," said Iwata.
He further explained: "When it comes to 3D, we already have the 3DS, and each owner of the Nintendo 3DS is capable of viewing 3D images. However, when it comes to the home console, it depends upon the availability of 3D TV sets at home, which, unfortunately, is not expanding enough."
He concluded: "Rather than pouring a lot of energy into that kind of area, with the Wii U we'd like to focus more on each Wii U owner being able to have an equal opportunity to enjoy it."
Gearbox has stated that the Wii U will be able to produce better textures than current consoles, so the machine is clearly going to be more than capable of running games in 3D too.
Wii U will be released in 2012.
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guek said:
obviously Nintendo agrees with my sentiments as the system is called Wii U. Wii is a highly successful brand and they would be foolish to abandon it.
Their problem is them marketing Wii U as an extension of Wii rather than as a new platform which is one of 3DS's biggest problems. Even their interviews are showcasing it as a Wii extension.MrBelmontvedere said:
How would that work exactly? They have completely different controls and using Wifi to connect the two adds lag and as it doesn't have bluetooth you can't connect it that way.Plinko said:
Mr_Brit said:
As I've said in other threads, I don't see why this has to be true.
Arguments like these generally seem to operate on the false presumption that understanding that the 3DS is a new platform is mutually exclusive with not seeing value in it. Why is it that consumers aren't idiots (as many like to suggest), and that they don't see value in buying a 3DS despite recognising that it is a new platform with new games distinct from those that they can buy for their DS?
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Mr_Brit said:
Well, that's part of the problem. They knew they were making the Wii U when they were making the 3DS. Probably would have been wise to use the technology to link the two together, but I guess the key qualifier would be "if possible." With the streaming technology used it probably just isn't possible.
Nintendo's experiment with connectivity colored the decisions around the 3DS. It will most definitely work with the WiiU at some point, but it won't be the all in one integrated experience some hope.
Iwata recently mentioned they didn't want to give the public the impression that you needed to buy both to gain the 'full experience' and citing directly the GameCube/GBA connectivity.
And on this issue I think he's right.
Iwata recently mentioned they didn't want to give the public the impression that you needed to buy both to gain the 'full experience' and citing directly the GameCube/GBA connectivity.
And on this issue I think he's right.
Iwata has acknowledged that the 3DS had a weak launch line-up.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/118/1181151p1.html
That can only be a good sign, as it means that they might try to avoid that with Wii U. Now all we need is someone from Nintendo admitting that the price was a problem...
http://wii.ign.com/articles/118/1181151p1.html
That can only be a good sign, as it means that they might try to avoid that with Wii U. Now all we need is someone from Nintendo admitting that the price was a problem...
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rezuth said:
And they did, it was the most successfull Nintendo Handheld launch so far. They just weren't able to sustain that momentum and the severe lack of good games and lack of expected hardware features was the core reason for that.
Yeah..
Guys we have to remember that this is going to be the first new console launch for a lot of people.
Those same people that were flabbergasted that we saw the Wii U a year away from release...the same people that are confused about the lack of quality software at launch...
I swear I wanna facepalm at almost a quarter of the posts I read about Wii U speculation because the question the person is asking or flaw theyre pointing out or suggestion theyre making simply implies that the person has never been around for a console launch before.
Guys we have to remember that this is going to be the first new console launch for a lot of people.
Those same people that were flabbergasted that we saw the Wii U a year away from release...the same people that are confused about the lack of quality software at launch...
I swear I wanna facepalm at almost a quarter of the posts I read about Wii U speculation because the question the person is asking or flaw theyre pointing out or suggestion theyre making simply implies that the person has never been around for a console launch before.
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Kyzer said:
I honestly don't remember a single Console that launched with a stellar lineup that had more than one or two great games, and was able to provide a steady lineup for the first half to first full year. The 360 was actually half way decent with Cod2 and Condemned at launch, but the software drought until GRAW and Oblivion was terrible.
boris feinbrand said:
Yeah people just don't remember it. Wii had Twilight Princess (a gamecube game) and Excite Truck. The rest were shitty third party efforts like not even a full featured Monkey Ball game, Raving Rabbids, etc...
And it was the best console launch to date! lol
Guys, I want to be real here. The Wii U has less than a third of the volume of the launch 360. The launch 360 topped-out at around 180W, and had severe overheating problems. The CPU is confirmed to be 45nm, and it's hinted at being based on Power7. By my calculations, despite the fact that most sources indicate an RV770, that's just impossible, even on 28nm. Even the RV740 would need it's power draw cut by about half. Based on what I can gather, the Wii U would probably need a maximum power draw of at least ~120W for both of these rumors to be true. Therefore, one or both must be wrong. That means quite a bit of heat, and I don't see how that case could handle it. Is it theoretically possible? And I don't want to hear about "Nintendium" or anything like that. This is a serious question. I really want to believe that Nintendo at least semi-future-proofed it.
I also found out that Wii U is smaller than Gamecube, so I think my concern is reasonable.
I also found out that Wii U is smaller than Gamecube, so I think my concern is reasonable.
He said 'instead' rather than 'in addition to' but you still make a good point.Instro said:
How do you people see local multiplayer in games that use the unique abilities of the Wii U controller working? Personally, I think most devs will just scrap local multiplayer for the Wii U version.
BurntPork said:
MSFT, with the launch of the 360, made some of the most careless, reckless mistakes I've ever seen in technology launches in general. Its almost like they never even tested their product properly. I hope they learned from that last time, since I think a lot of it can be attributed to them wanting to be the first of the new consoles released.
Nintendo, in terms of hardware, is the polar opposite. They are notoriously sound and take almost anything you throw at them. NES's around the world still work like a charm. Wii is the only system you can basically throw at the ground and it will still work. If they DID release a product capable of overheating and breaking on its own, it would be without precedence, because they have never, historically, released a product that breaks.
Kyzer said:
My launch Wii was the first Nintendo console that ever failed on me (about 6 months ago -- I think both the DVD drive and internal storage failed; might have been a total motherboard failure). It was disappointing, and I lost all my save data because I'd never backed it up on my SD card.
Assuming you're referring to multiplatform games, they've already created a working multiplayer feature that doesn't require the unique abilities of the Wii U controller, so they should be able to implement it in the Wii U version as well. If it's a Wii U exclusive, there is also the option for 5 player local multiplayer like we're seeing in a couple of games.Mr_Brit said:
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It used to be that console hardware was developed step-in-step with hardware. Miyamoto would make decisions about the N64 hardware, then walk across the hall and start working on Super Mario 64.boris feinbrand said:
That doesn't happen in the same way anymore. Really, the best chance for launch games a system has in PSVita because we've been hearing about developers having devkits since January 2010.
I meant multiplatform games. Take something like the Alien game made by Gearbox which is supposed to use the Wii U controller to play differently to the 360/PS3/PC versions or any other game that will be tailored to provide a different gameplay experience on Wii U compared to other platforms. I can't imagine the local multiplayer version being the same as the 360 version rather than the Wii U version and I doubt the devs would do something like that.Jokeropia said:
Would removing local multiplayer really save them any time or money, especially since the Wii U's physical controls are identical to the CCPro?Mr_Brit said:
My concern is that they'll lower the specs to make the console the size they want, rather than making the console bigger to reach the target specs.Kyzer said:
"Satoru Iwata reveals that the heightened risk of information leaking means Nintendo are forced to unveil their consoles earlier..."
http://www.********.com/news.php?nid=15875
That could explain the poor E3 showing.
edit: Oh that is a banned site apparantly? >_>
http://www.********.com/news.php?nid=15875
That could explain the poor E3 showing.
edit: Oh that is a banned site apparantly? >_>
after watching that game informer video about darksiders 2 development, I kinda wish ubisoft hadn't shown any killer freaks footage at all. It's painfully obvious that the game is really really early, but not only that, it's lead to a lot of doubts concerning the system's power. It just doesn't look that great, and it's obviously because they didn't have enough time to make an E3 worthy build.
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