Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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ShockingAlberto
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I think a screenless controller (or an untethered classic controller) is definitely a possibility, too.
bgassassin
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ShockingAlberto
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bgassassin said:
Truly fantastic photoshop skills here.
Gamer @ Heart
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The option should exist for it though. I can't imagine sending dual menu screens to two controllers will be that taxing or limit EA's design. Would be a great demo for Nintendo to show at their next software reveal event.Gravijah said:
Zoramon089
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BurntPork said:
It's not launching for months so why are people jumping to conclusions?
Puppet Shadow
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Do it, Rockstar.
TheNatural
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BurntPork said:
Forcing someone to use something doesn't make it any better, that's what got Nintendo into the problems the past few generations with third parties is forcing them to use something. If there's compelling software that uses things well, it will stand on its own volition, not because you shoved it down people's throats.
Wii U or traditional controller, isn't going to change the way companies are going to make use of the Wii U controller. If they're going to do something with it, they're going to do something with it, having a traditional option isn't going to change that. And if they're just going to use it as a simple meaningless GUI as a replacement for an item screen, that's what they're going to do too. Having two screens on the DS didn't change a damn thing for companies who used it on basically nothing. Having it 100% available for every game didn't mean everyone did anything that couldn't have been done on one screen.
Puppet Shadow
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Although I agree with what you're saying (regarding 3rd party support), someone less familiar with console sales reading through it would then be amazed to learn that the DS and the Wii are the most successful gaming consoles in the last five years.TheNatural said:
My guess is developers will mostly ignore the Wii U as well.
DaSorcerer7
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TheNatural said:
Try not to limit your imagination mate, you don't know what developers are planning and just because you can't see else can be done with it, doesn't that developers are drawing blanks as well.
lwilliams3
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The problem with that thinking is that alot of third party developers did not like that they missed the boat with the Wii. This time, it is expected for at least a few of them to take whatever Nintendo does more seriously.Puppet Shadow said:
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... until MS and Sony release consoles with higher specs that offer more eye candy. But, who knows?lwilliams3 said:
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Has Nintendo ever done that?Maxrpg said:
Zoramon089
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Right, like how that happened when the Xbox and GC were released after the PS2...Puppet Shadow said:
DaSorcerer7
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What do you think of Wii U? Its probably too early for licensed games, but what are your thoughts on the hardware?
With the right opportunity for us, with the right title, absolutely. Their showing and demonstration was very impressive. I think everyone was floored with what the unique new controller can do. If theres a game creator out there that puts out something very compelling and we get a chance to publish that, then yeah we would like to seize that opportunity.
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With the right opportunity for us, with the right title, absolutely. Their showing and demonstration was very impressive. I think everyone was floored with what the unique new controller can do. If theres a game creator out there that puts out something very compelling and we get a chance to publish that, then yeah we would like to seize that opportunity.
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Seriously... People are so dead set on Nintendo never getting the respect of 3rd parties that it's not even funny.Puppet Shadow said:
Nintendo could kidnap the children of every CEO at every publisher and people on GAF would say "yeah, they'd rather let their kids die than support Nintendo."
phosphor112
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The Wii U wont be able to get a consumer base as large as the PS2. First of all, the Wii U doesn't have a big enough distinction between Nintendo's former console. Most of those who wanted their party games already have them, and wont dish out 400 or so for something that offers very similar games to the PS3 and 360.. consoles they already have. Not only that, but those who spend most money on games will probably wait for a full Xbox or Playstation release. Brand loyalty is pretty larger right now, and MS and Sony working real hard to get a fan base to support them will get consumers to hold out for something that looks better, and potentially offer a technically advanced gaming experience.Zoramon089 said:
Of course, this is speculation.
walking fiend
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BurntPork said:
- move came 4 years after the PS3 was introduced
+ wiimote will be available from the launch
+ ACTUALLY; remote has been available 3 years before launch, and at least 28 million motion+ has already been sold (wii sports resort has sold that much)
- move launched at 100
+ wiimote+nunchuck will launch at 40$
+ second controller HAS TO be either wiimote or classic controller (maybe not in favor of Wii U in general, but in favor of Wiimote support)
As we didn't see how significantly it did for PS3 considering it came after PS2.
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JoshuaJSlone
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It shouldn't really. Maybe such a game might include a way to jack up the brightness of the controller screen image if someone might be using glasses which would dim their view.maeh2k said:
MS still seems to have ahold of the first, though I don't know if that eventually runs out and reverts so Bioware's new overlords could put it elsewhere. I agree that if this thing is released within 2012, especially mid 2012, it'd still be too soon for them to want to bundle 2+3 even.BurntPork said:
What's the reason to pick "no local multiplayer" over "same local multiplayer as the other versions"? Or heck, if they did go out of their way to make the Wii U version different I don't see why they couldn't create a different local multiplayer version as well. At least for games where local multiplayer is seen as a significant feature.Mr_Brit said:
I have no idea what devs will do, but I see no good reason to scrap local multiplayer altogether.
PdotMichael
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Disorientator said:
woah... please not!
no game will be better with this
Jorok Goldblade
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Disorientator said:
One Nintendo franchise that could really benefit from this controller is Battalion Wars- use the buttons to control your active unit, the screen for the strategy side of the game:
Also on the subject of games NOA refuses to localize, we really need a New Play Control: Fatal Frame. The screen on the controller would be great as the viewfinder on the camera.
walking fiend
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lots of people type without learning not to look at the keyboard, and seemingly it is not that bothersome for them, since otherwise they would have learned typing without looking at the keyboard eventually.Concept17 said:
And typing is a process that needs constant collaboration between what happens on the screen and what you press on the keyboard; keyboard is also quite complex considering it has over 100 buttons.
although it won't be as seamless as DS, I think people will manage
walking fiend
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I believe the concern is keeping focus on whats happening on the screen while using the controller; you cant spend half a second on CoD trying to change to knife when someone is rushing at you; you will get knifed yourself.KrawlMan said:
I believe people will either learn to use the touchscreen without looking at it, or only look at it occosionaly, or look really fast using eye movement, or get knifed.
AceBandage
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Like anything else that you practice over and over, using the UTab will become pure muscle memory.
walking fiend said:
I guess using the word "tiresome" is what made it seem insanely lazy. The purpose of the controller will be decided entirely by individual devs. In the case of CoD or any other game where the top screen demands your utmost attention, I would hope that the devs would be smart enough to not put all of the crucial information on the controller screen.
Concept17 said:
It's also a 6" touch screen that has to overcome "fat finger syndrome." I seriously doubt any dev would give you a screen that is just jam packed with button choices that they require you to choose between quickly. If a game is very fast paced, the most I see the bottom screen including are a few large buttons on the screen at once and maybe some displayed information, nothing too difficult to learn.
fabricated backlash
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Concept17 said:
Why would that be a problem... sure as hell wasn't a problem on the DS.
Personally one cool use for the touchscreen would be stylus aiming for fps games. Would make for some extremely fast games.
Concept17 said:
You're fears are only applicable to a specific type of game (very fast paced). Not all games will use the Wii U controller in the same way. Zelda (or any Adventure / RPG for that matter) could easily be enhanced with the Wii U controller by having any easy to use inventory screen in your hands.
For those fast paced games, the purpose of the controller would have to be different. Maybe a larger tactical map as some people have previously indicated. No, you can't look at it the entire time you are playing, but consider getting under cover before you use it? Cover is a pretty common mechanic shooters these days
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you don't become competetive on the game that you don't play ofter, you wouldn't become anyway if you don't play much. It is not as if you can't finish CoD campaign without being able to knife in a blink of an eye.Concept17 said:
and again muscle memory is really muscle memory and you won't forget it when games change. My keyboard is bilingual, and after I learned to type English without looking at the keyboard after several years of not being able too, learning to type persian took few months.
they could have used a keyboard but
1: pressing buttons while not holding keyboard again something firm would be difficult
2: interface doesn't need to be limited to buttons; layout and the size of buttons can change too
3: most importantly, the whole purpose of the screen is not functioning as an on screen keyboard
SoulstealerMex
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Concept17 said:
Yeah, looking at two screens for vital information could get in the way, but after playing OOT 3D, I really liked the touch screen for equipment.
I think this controller could work really well for games like Zelda with lots of equipments and stuff to change (Demon Souls/Darksiders/RPGs, etc..) or even RTS with real time actions on the map with a single touch (Pikmin 3 should lead the way!) , but for FPS I fear that the standard buttons wont be enough (I can't come up with a good scheme for COD, I hope we don't have to move the controller to run or something like that)
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