Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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ClovingSteam said:
Wait, what? You don't want a console that's based on fairly recent technology? The reality is there's not much out there at present that's realistically going to be a huge technological game changer. It's unrealistic to expect the same kind of massive leap you got from last gen to this gen. Developers seem to be able to make whatever kind of game they want already.
H_Prestige
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You don't need to build a $600 machine to become an all entertainment hub anymore. Sony isn't going to do it either. It all depends on how robust the OS software and networking features are now, not the processing power inside the box, which all next gen consoles will have in abundance.ClovingSteam said:
You could stick the strongest processors around inside the Wii U and it still wouldn't be the one box underneath your TV that does everything. Nintendo isn't trying to make that kind of device. It will play video games and that's it.
ClovingWestbrook
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guek said:
Do you expect Sony or Micro to sell their console for more than $400? No. Do you expect their hardware to be more impressive than the Wii U? You better believe it. If I am paying $350 I want a clear distinction between the new generation it represents and the previous one. I expect to get that from the PS4/ Next Xbox. I hope to have it with the Wii U. And no, i will not be comparing it to the Wii since what the Wii has outputted outside of a couple Nintendo games is somewhere between the GC and the Wii generation.
bgassassin
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ClovingSteam said:
Underclocked alpha kit.
ClovingWestbrook
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bgassassin said:
And?
Exterminieren
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Can't reasonably be expected to show what specs a console has. WiiU has almost certainly got more power than those preliminary dev kits show.ClovingSteam said:
bgassassin
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ClovingSteam said:
In other words the comparisons were being made not only based on the alpha kit, but underclocked ones at that.
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/wii-u-dev-kits-underclocked
ClovingWestbrook
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bgassassin said:
No, I realize that. Nevertheless the type of language being used by those who have seen the kits and those who have some type of an inkling of what to expect haven't raved about a drastically increase in power compared to this gen. Those who claim to know what Microsoft and Sony are doing ARE using language that points to a genuine jump from the current gen to next gen.
ClovingSteam said:
I understand that sentiment. Personally, I don't believe graphical power is everything, and I'm more than willing to pay $350 (probably no more) at launch for a console that is clearly superior to the present gen that also provides new and interesting experiences such as asymmetrical gameplay or refined control options. And really, that's what I meant earlier when I said it depends on your definition of "significantly more powerful." By my standards, all signs point to hardware significantly more powerful than the current gen. I think it'll be a bigger leap from 360/PS3 than the Wii was from the GC.
At the same time, I don't believe that not being 10x more powerful than the current gen is going to severely hinder the gaming possibilities on the future console like it did with the Wii.
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ClovingSteam said:
The most concrete thing we've gotten about the other two consoles came from DICE who said BF3 on PCs is what you should expect and to look at current PC parts to get an idea of what will be in the consoles. And IMO they did a good job with the PS360 versions. Then there's Epic seemingly suggesting that current hardware targets aren't what they want to see for their games and want gamers to push for that direction. There's been nothing else stated with implied fact of what Sony and MS are doing. All we've heard are general assumptions. Being concerned about how close it is to the current consoles isn't as relevant as to how close it will be to the next consoles. And we are starting to see indications that it will be.
ClovingSteam said:
I understand your concern - I too want to be wowed with the Wii U, but does the tablet controller really mean that little to you? We know the Wii U is going to be more modern tech than the 5-6 year old P60 stuff AND it's going to get a tablet controller that will give us a myriad of options
If they do like they're doing now with the 3DS, and are happy to go for lower profit at first to get the units out there, then at $350 we would be getting a pretty grunty machine I imagine.
Because of the controller and all the things it has (touch, camera etc) some of the cost will obviously be sucked up by that and not be able to be allocated purely to power and visuals. That's life, but I do expect we'll see some beautiful stuff from the machine.
For Wii U a lot will depend on price an the leap between it and the Xbox 360/PS3. Iwata brought up the 3DS launch and one thing I found quite odd. He said something like "I haven't decided yet if we go in the red with the Wii U". This wouldn't be brought up if there weren't plans so I can take two fast conclusions...
1) Wii U will likely be sold cheap if necessary ($299?)
2) They won't try to gimp it enough to sell it at a profit
Iwata seems to have opened the war chest this time.
1) Wii U will likely be sold cheap if necessary ($299?)
2) They won't try to gimp it enough to sell it at a profit
Iwata seems to have opened the war chest this time.
Cheesecakebobby
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My worry is that even if the console is half the price of the PS4/ XboxWhatever (and that is being optimistic), the games themselves won't be much cheaper, or cheaper at all. If a multiformat game costs the same, will the ability to play on the U pad really tear us away from a much better looking game on the other consoles? How many people bought the Wii version of Call of Duty instead of PS360? I wish Nintendo would bite the bullet, release the Wii U with more expensive components thus providing us with a more expensive machine that we will choose to play multiformat games on.
ShockingAlberto
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GTAV has been in development for years and years
I doubt they want to add another system to their worries and I am sure Take Two is not eager to force them to
I doubt they want to add another system to their worries and I am sure Take Two is not eager to force them to
Sempuukyaku
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TunaLover said:
Really? Can't you be more creative with your troll attempts?
bgassassin
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Sempuukyaku said:
Lucky Charms is the troll, not him.
StreetsAhead
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Has anyone done the obligatory "GTAV trailer was totes running on Wii U" thing in here yet?
bgassassin
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Luckyman said:
I'm going to bet that the CPU is 0-100% better also. *rollseyes*
IsntChrisL
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Where has anyone stated the system is a marginal upgrade from PS3/360? I want to know where people are "hearing" this from.
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guek said:
Oh, I definitely agree. There was some might impressive lighting in there, but even so.
Besides, everyone knows that this is the only stealth Wii U trailer that's been released:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz-OTbThTf8
DrForester
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Just putting down a Nov. 18, 2012 prediction for the release date.
bgassassin
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IsntChrisL said:
It was mainly stated back in 01's article leaking the specs back in April. People have run with it since then. Then there was the 50% more powerful mention that came from an analyst's sources.
POWERSPHERE
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Just thinking about the possibilities and benefits for GTA V coming to the Wii U has me pretty excited.
Fantastical
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Yeah I'll definitely be buying it on WiiU if it is available.POWERSPHERE said:
ShockingAlberto
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I wouldn't get your hopes up, guys.
Take Two couldn't even get Bioshock Infinite on the Wii U and Ken Levine showed up in a promotional video!
Take Two couldn't even get Bioshock Infinite on the Wii U and Ken Levine showed up in a promotional video!
ShockingAlberto said:
When is bioshock infinite set to release? I think it all depends on how far along GTAV really is and when it's set to launch.
With games like this though, they're probably working like crazy up to the very last minute. It's one thing to decide to bring games like darksiders II or colonel marines which were still early-ish in development to the wii U but if GTAV was already far along, they probably wouldn't have time to squeeze in porting it over. At least not for day 1.
ShockingAlberto
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Mid- to late-2012.guek said:
It was announced in 2010.
I think Levine specifically said he didn't want to do a Wii U version, but maybe some other game in an unspecified future.
TheExplodingHead
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As for a big EA launch title to flex the system, anyone else see a possible new Fight Night being one of the big graphical showcases? Was pretty much the first game this gen that blew the doors off 360 graphically (and Gears). I'd be pretty excited for it being a fight fan. That, and a new Madden that uses the Upad well would be right up EA's alley. Throw in a FPS port and casual fit thing too...
TheExplodingHead said:
Nothing EA launches with WiiU will help its launch...
Nintendo is on its own. They won't get a day 1 exclusive game in a million sold series from another publisher.
Games that are published on WiiU and PS360 will likely look the same, at least at launch.
Best thing Nintendo can do, is have WiiU get all the COD, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Dead Space etc... of next winter season come up at the same time as their PS360 counterparts.
Then, maybe, subtle graphic/performance ameliorations will decide hardcore gamers to lust over WiiU and forget about their cheriched gamerscores.
The Upad for all its advantages cannot be as comfortable as 360 pad and touchable item/map screen is not the videogame Messiah.
Nintendo's biggest selling point is going to be Zelda, Mario et all in HD. The biggest hurdle will be the time it takes for Nintendo to roll out their big franchises and what they'll do once the initial 'omg Mario in HD I'm melting' shock is passed. Another important part of the Wii U is going to be all sorts of small apps for the tablet-like controller. There's really no telling how this is going to work out in the end. It's going to be an uphill battle but they certainly have the cash to fund it.
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