Wii U's Nintendo TVii, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu Plus, and Netflix pushed to Dec.

Van Owen said:
It shows its not a priority. Might be other stuff missing day 1 too...
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They're obviously coming in hot with everything. I fail to see how not prioritizing video streaming services and the TVii thing on a gaming console is a bad thing. The important thing is that the eShop is ready for day one (unlike what happened with the 3DS) and that Miiverse is accessible for all the games. Both those are set in stone. Of course it would be awesome if everything was perfect and there from day one but a few weeks of extra waiting shouldn't be too much of an issue, really.

matthwq said:
I thought he was referring to Dec. 30th. Which would make sense with Nintendo, as they tend to delay their updates and shit until the last possible second. Although it'd probs be Dec. 28th for real because of their standard Thursday update thing.
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Oh I read that as November for some reason.

Tathanen said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wu1kGo5j7NU#t=157s

Bill Trinen listing Nintendo Services, explicitly including Nintendo TVii, and saying "connect to the Internet on Day One for a system update that will give you all of these." Posted 3 days ago.

So if this really changed, it sure fuckin changed recently.
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Looks like they're really sweating right now to get everything ready.
 
Funny, I'd already assumed this stuff was coming in December, like how the eshop was late for 3DS. (I honestly thought that one of the official Nintendo websites had said as much about TVii when it was first announced. Along with the hints that they're trying to work things out with cable providers to get other DVRs on board.)

Just want the Miiverse and eshop at launch and I'll be okay, as long as the delay for this isn't too long. It's the part of the OS I'm most excited for.
 
TheNatural said:
Not really, my point here is it's a company quality control issue, not a bells and whistles issues. Remember: these companies are the ones asking you to pay $350-$500 hauls, day one for the system and game(s). Not the other way around.

If that's the case EVERY damn thing in the system, day one, should have been prepared for. Hell, not only prepared for, but double and triple prepared for. Not "oh shit we're not ready, we'll patch it up later on." That's not even counting the rush jobs because of the development kits that it looks like some of the ports have.

Lost in all of this is the people that aren't going to have the means to get the update, period. Lets not forget, Wii wasn't exactly an online friendly system, and many played it offline. I imagine a lot of kids will be getting this for Christmas, and things that have to be patched in through an online update like the TV and Wii BC things, some people just won't get them because they don't have a WiFi modem or maybe even the internet. That's a pretty shitty way to handle those types of consumers.

And we haven't even gotten to the launch to see if there are widespread issues, like the 3DS having scratch problems that still doesn't sell from Amazon by last check because of it.

Bottom line is, companies need to stop getting a free pass on shitty launches. Everything better be available day one that they've pushed for a year now as a feature. And things like the system actually being reliable and working DAMN sure better be there. They're the ones asking for money, not the other way around, and the games aren't going anywhere if you don't play them day one they're available. They'll be there a month, a year, 5 years from now on the shelf. Being new, shiny, and marketed out the ass isn't a replacement for delivering on promises, value, and making sure everything works. They shouldn't be rewarded day one if that's the case.
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that would be nice. it's also not realistic... not because such a thing is impossible to pull off, but because such a thing rarely happens. so it's not realistic to expect such a thing.

I was disappointed when the eShop didn't make it at launch on the 3DS. This is no major inconvenience for me. Wii TV looks like a really convenient way to tie together all my different content on different services. I can deal accessing that content the way I've been accessing it for the last few years for a month or so longer.

If something was going to have to slip, this was the one that should have been lower priority for making launch, so I'm glad it is. My TV, my phone, my PC, my Surface, my Xbox 360, my PS3, and my Wii can all play Hulu Plus and Netflix content. My 3DS also can play Netflix.

so... yeah. Rayman Legends getting delayed was much more annoying.
 
Eh, December isn't a big deal, I mean it could be 2 weeks from launch for all we know, most of us probably won't even own the damn thing yet. But still, I can see how some see this as a sign of future shitty things to come.
 
I wonder if it's an issue of needing more hardware available in NA regions for a longer period to get things thoroughly beta'd with the various services. This is just conjecture, since I'm still unsure how the things from the demo like "now playing on CBS" are actually meant to work with different cable providers. I'm unclear on whether it's just accessing a general listing service, if it's serving as a universal remote to switch over to your cable signal, if it's only available for certain channels, or if that's solely a Tivo feature.
 
DeuceGamer said:
Maybe that's the cause for the delay? Anyway, I missed that rumor do you happen to have a link?
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Mainly from this:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/02/time-warner-job-listing-points-to-hbo-go-on-nintendo-systems/

It's a bit old, but I don't see why the info would now be invalid. HBO Go has been released on 360 and PS3 since this posting, so it would point towards a Wii U release too.

Here is my guess for the delay: A last second bug hit TVii, and instead of rushing out and patching later Nintendo decided to wait until the bug is fixed. Since TVii is integrated into the other services, they have to hold off release as well.
 
Total bullshit Nintendo. Very unprofessional and disingenuous. Shit, in my country you'd get an arse kicking for advertising features that aren't going to be there. You've had years to sort this out.

I bet MiiVerse will be buggy or only partly done.


CuboidFX said:
A delayed feature will eventually be good, a bad feature will forever be bad.

It's just a few weeks anyway.
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And a promised feature actually being delivered is just plain good business practice. I can't even get TViiiiiiii in my country but I stil think this sort "We'll patch it later" attitude sucks. Nintendo has finally followed suit with everyone else.
 
RichIGN: TVii ETA is "December" while all VOD apps are "coming weeks" (whatever that means). We know there's no Wii U VC (yet). eShop should be fine. ETA is "December" while all VOD apps are "coming weeks" (whatever that means). We know there's no Wii U VC (yet). eShop should be fine.
 
AzaK said:
Total bullshit Nintendo. Very unprofessional and disingenuous. Shit, in my country you'd get an arse kicking for advertising features that aren't going to be there. You've had years to sort this out.

I bet MiiVerse will be buggy or only partly done.
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So let me get this straight, you complain about them delaying features (probably because they're buggy) AND you complain about features that weren't delayed (claiming they're probably buggy). Does anyone else see how this makes no sense? How it's one of those either way Nintendo loses things?
 
AzaK said:
Total bullshit Nintendo. Very unprofessional and disingenuous. Shit, in my country you'd get an arse kicking for advertising features that aren't going to be there. You've had years to sort this out.
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Looks like they're going to have to reprint all the boxes too then. Lol.
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Ken Masters said:
Had no interest in this feature but still laughable they couldn't launch the major service of this system on time
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But it's not a service, there is no sign up needed, it does two things: 1) it searches for content across three media content deliveries - Netflix, Amazon and you local tv guide.
2) It's an IR blaster to change tv channels.

It's the same thing that's included with Sony or Samsung tablets.

I think people are still confused about what the TVii is.
 
Magic Ovaries said:
But it's not a service, there is no sign up needed, it does two things: 1) it searches for content across three media content deliveries - Netflix, Amazon and you local tv guide.
2) It's an IR blaster to change tv channels.

It's the same thing that's included with Sony or Samsung tablets.

I think people are still confused about what the TVii is.
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Bolded the part that is a service.

(edit) to be clear, signing up doesn't make things a service... Anything that does something for you is a service unless a physical good is exchanged.
 
Van Owen said:
RichIGN: TVii ETA is "December" while all VOD apps are "coming weeks" (whatever that means). We know there's no Wii U VC (yet). eShop should be fine. ETA is "December" while all VOD apps are "coming weeks" (whatever that means). We know there's no Wii U VC (yet). eShop should be fine.
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Makes it sound like Netflix etc are apps that can be launched from within Nintendo TVii or maybe you have the option to launch them without using TVii. For example if you just wanted to go on Netflix to continue your queue or something.

The whole searching TV thing is the part that will be missing. You'll still be able to use the pad as a universal remote. Multiple sites have already talked about it.
 
Holy shit you guys , seriously , we have to wait 2 weeks for features that you can currently get on literally every other piece of technology you own ? I mean WTF do people think this is a gaming machine meant for playing videogames ?


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seriously you guys, has any system ever launched with 100% of it's features working 100% of the time from day 0 ? Especially from nintendo ? I'm fairly adamant that the only people who give a shit about this stuff not only weren't buying a console but are now merely looking for a way to troll the system for a couple of weeks.
 
Zoramon089 said:
So let me get this straight, you complain about them delaying features (probably because they're buggy) AND you complain about features that weren't delayed (claiming they're probably buggy). Does anyone else see how this makes no sense? How it's one of those either way Nintendo loses things?
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No I'm suggesting that the whole build up to Wii U has felt rushed and that Nintendo was struggling and not sure of themselves. Things like this lead to delayed features and bugs. Dropping the ball like this at a console launch is shitty.

I'm still reeling a little from the last minute revelation about poor 8GB owners have 3 GB when all is said and done. That's a bit disingenuous too.
 
dose said:
So do we still have no idea when/if the UK will get TVii?
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I'm not convinced we will (although I'd love to be wrong).

The quickest way for Nintendo to get a fairly full sevice to a large amount of people in the UK would be to get the system working well with Sky and Virgin boxes....as they already include most of the catch up services people will want.
 
Pachinko said:
Holy shit you guys , seriously , we have to wait 2 weeks for features that you can currently get on literally every other piece of technology you own ? I mean WTF do people think this is a gaming machine meant for playing videogames ?


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seriously you guys, has any system ever launched with 100% of it's features working 100% of the time from day 0 ? Especially from nintendo ? I'm fairly adamant that the only people who give a shit about this stuff not only weren't buying a console but are now merely looking for a way to troll the system for a couple of weeks.
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They key difference is that when the PS3/Xbox 360 launched they were "feature complete" in relation to what customers were expecting and added services over time. The Wii U is launching in an incomplete state to what we were told would be there on day 1.
 
I feel like the outrage is a little goofy. It sucks I won't be able to watch Mad Men on it the first day I own the system, but I can still watch the show a billion other ways.
 
bryehn said:
They key difference is that when the PS3/Xbox 360 launched they were "feature complete" in relation to what customers were expecting and added services over time. The Wii U is launching in an incomplete state to what we were told would be there on day 1.
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Oh well.

Let's play video games.
 
bryehn said:
They key difference is that when the PS3/Xbox 360 launched they were "feature complete" in relation to what customers were expecting and added services over time. The Wii U is launching in an incomplete state to what we were told would be there on day 1.
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We didn't learn about TVii till the event on September 13th; so its hardly been a large priority and I think is definitely something they added later.
 
Van Owen said:
RichIGN: TVii ETA is "December" while all VOD apps are "coming weeks" (whatever that means). We know there's no Wii U VC (yet). eShop should be fine. ETA is "December" while all VOD apps are "coming weeks" (whatever that means). We know there's no Wii U VC (yet). eShop should be fine.
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Hmm, why not say December for both? VOD apps delayed to beyond December, or maybe they just can't commit to December for those?
 
December?

So about a month? A few weeks, maybe? Why is this a big deal? It's a far cry from what happened with the eShop on 3DS. This will likely be a negligible issue for people who are actually interested in the system.
 
I feel better about not pre-ordering now. I was considering camping out Saturday night.. but I think I'll pass.

I hope the issue is with the app makers, but this just reeks of classic Nintendo.
 
EloquentM said:
What does this have anything to do with the article above?
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Because all of them deal with online? Nintendo seems to always be lagging when it comes to online services. I just don't get why.
 
Has anybody received any word on if DirecTV will work with TVii? I haven't seen anything about it.
 
Whatever the case I do believe this will hurt them in the short term. Tvii looks like a decent system for tv viewing, and you do end up with first day buyers showing family and friends over thanksgiving a video game console, instead of whatever grand scheme Nintendo have thought up.
 
A bummer, but this works out for me as I won't be able to get one until around December-ish.

assuming I can find one then >_>
 
Engadget has updated the article. Netflix support for TVii will come even later it seems.
Update: Netflix reps tell us the app will be available "when Wii U ships," but won't be part of Nintendo TVii "until Q1."
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Quentyn said:
Engadget has updated the article. Netflix support for TVii will come even later it seems.
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So a Netflix app will be day one, but integration with Tvii will be next year.
 
AzaK said:
Total bullshit Nintendo. Very unprofessional and disingenuous. Shit, in my country you'd get an arse kicking for advertising features that aren't going to be there. You've had years to sort this out.

I bet MiiVerse will be buggy or only partly done.



And a promised feature actually being delivered is just plain good business practice. I can't even get TViiiiiiii in my country but I stil think this sort "We'll patch it later" attitude sucks. Nintendo has finally followed suit with everyone else.
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Where do you live?

I'm just glad they are coming. I'll be using Amazon a lot. Really nice. Now, where can I request HBO go and MLB.TV?
 
So we'll have netflix... just not it integrated into TVii at first... because TVii isn't out at launch.

So not a big deal just got made into even less of a big deal.
 
Gonna go cancel my preorder. I wanted this thing only to stream movies and tv shows and not play games In a new way. Not gonna pay for day 1 if those features aren't present. I'd rather have those working than the disc drive and gamepad.
 
KojiKnight said:
So we'll have netflix... just not it integrated into TVii at first... because TVii isn't out at launch.

So not a big deal just got made into even less of a big deal.
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But what about the rage? RAGE!!!!

Wait, what's the article's source? He couldn't wait on Netflix to respond before posting the article? Lol, gaming journalism, again. Can he contact Amazon?
 
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