the gap is already near 3M worldwide...
I think a price cut too drastic by MS would be seen as a desperation move.
Like "We know our console sucks, please buy it"
Ugh, get out of here with those BS numbers.
the gap is already near 3M worldwide...
I think a price cut too drastic by MS would be seen as a desperation move.
Like "We know our console sucks, please buy it"
Everyone knows the US market is completely loyal to Microsoft and the only reason any PS4s have been sold at all is because it is cheaper than the Xbone/Sony is holding their families hostage.I don't dismiss the fact that a cut in price would help the XBO, but talking about the "consumers love for the 360"; to be honest, the very, very loyal of MS/360, already had a Xbox One. How much the spike in sales would be, that's anyone guess.
going by the only world wide numbers we really have... ********... 4.2 to 6.9... after January I think it had reached 3 million difference though that may have been pre-correction when more solid numbers came in. I think Microsoft and Sony still have a ton of stuff left to prove for us to pick a winner... lets not forget how huge the 360's lead was just a few years ago. Innovating software will eventually drag gamers over to you no matter what..
edit: either way I win since I bought both of them :-D
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the gap is already near 3M worldwide...
I think a price cut too drastic by MS would be seen as a desperation move.
Like "We know our console sucks, please buy it"
the gap is already near 3M worldwide...
I think a price cut too drastic by MS would be seen as a desperation move.
Like "We know our console sucks, please buy it"
I don't dismiss the fact that a cut in price would help the XBO, but talking about the "consumers love for the 360"; to be honest, the very, very loyal of MS/360, already have a Xbox One. How much the spike in sales would be, that's anyone guess.
Finally someone who understands. March's NPD this week is only going to be the beginning of MS's comeback. Hell, even Wii U is going to slap PS4 around once Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. release.
the gap is already near 3M worldwide...
I think a price cut too drastic by MS would be seen as a desperation move.
Like "We know our console sucks, please buy it"
Seriously, the cost is holding
A large amount of the faithful back.
Read between the lines, there's
Copious amounts of evidence pointing
A rise in xbox one
Sales.
Most people just don't notice it.
Unlimited or not, MS will not let the Xbox division, a part of the company that has consistently lost money and managed to turn the public against it, have free access to billions of dollars
to spend freely. The Xbox division is already on thin ice as it is, and even if the reports of stockholders clamoring to sell the division off are false, you only have to look at the marketshare
they lost from last gen to see that going from nearly all, to under half will not look favorable to the people who control the company.
Sales parity is bullshit, and you've been linked to a very good post that proves that. Even so, why only the Xbone? I didn't see anyone rushing in to save the Zune when it was being
royally thrashed by the iPod, or the Betamax getting some help when the VHS destroyed it. Surely if Parity is as good as you say, then parity in every market is better? And why only
recently? I remember people fighting over the SNES Vs Genesis war, yet I don't remember anyone shouting from the rooftops that both were needed? Same with the NES and Master System.
I would remove that ASAP junior.
These sorts of threads really bring out the crazies.Ok, i dont come to neogaf as much as I would like nowdays due to work but I can only assume that this was some massive attempt by the posters in this thread to make me, and all the other people in similar positions, laugh and want to come back more.
Surely the posts here are not for real.
Why are people using VG Charts so much around here all of a sudden?
Is this a poem?
Only read the caps.
Why are people using VG Charts so much around here all of a sudden?
Is this a poem?
This thread is golden.
Believe it or not Xbox is the only part of Microsoft that is actually making money right now, R&D into backend cloud servers at live probably have a huge pool of money. That is the beating heart of Xbox One, not the console its self. Considering that Microsoft sold 4 million plus or so in limited territories and PS4 launched world wide with what is it now 7 million? That 3 million difference isn't as big as people are making it out to be. Microsofts Xbox is its consumer based product, it's not going away anytime soon esp with Phil Spencer as head.
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Yeah the Xbox division is making tons of money for them compared to the other business areas. Xbox is NOTHING compared to their other business areas and hence the reason for stockholders wanting it to be sold. The money that is thrown at Xbox could be used much more efficiently in other areas with more profit.
And even if Xbox have not officially launched in all countries they still are available to buy so the released will make little to close the gap.
Coincidence
And you just sited Chartz so there goes what little credibility you have left. So long, thanks for playing. Here's a site better suited for you.
They already cut the price...
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(Leipzig/Germany)
Those charts are a few months old...there servers are catching up to Amazon in terms of sales.
They already cut the price...
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(Leipzig/Germany)
lol.. So they're going to lose 160$ and possibly even more with the other price cut?$399 with Kinect, $299 without.
War over.
Believe it or not Xbox is the only part of Microsoft that is actually making money right now, R&D into backend cloud servers at live probably have a huge pool of money. That is the beating heart of Xbox One, not the console its self. Considering that Microsoft sold 4 million plus or so in limited territories and PS4 launched world wide with what is it now 7 million? That 3 million difference isn't as big as people are making it out to be. Microsofts Xbox is its consumer based product, it's not going away anytime soon esp with Phil Spencer as head.
Gamefaqs? You trust CNET anymore then you trust those other guys? It's the only site that has any hard numbers... it's one thing to except software numbers, but hardware is not generally to far off
Gamefaqs? You trust CNET anymore then you trust those other guys? It's the only site that has any hard numbers... it's one thing to except software numbers, but hardware is not generally to far off
Believe it or not Xbox is the only part of Microsoft that is actually making money right now, R&D into backend cloud servers at live probably have a huge pool of money. That is the beating heart of Xbox One, not the console its self. Considering that Microsoft sold 4 million plus or so in limited territories and PS4 launched world wide with what is it now 7 million? That 3 million difference isn't as big as people are making it out to be. Microsofts Xbox is its consumer based product, it's not going away anytime soon esp with Phil Spencer as head.
Those charts are a few months old...there servers are catching up to Amazon in terms of sales.
Believe it or not Xbox is the only part of Microsoft that is actually making money right now
Those charts are a few months old...there servers are catching up to Amazon in terms of sales.
Well, at least this way they've leaving some wiggle room; they could be using a knife, but it could be a comically bad karate chop too. They've already proven they can't kill Sony as per E3 2013.Funny that not a single new game announcement but a couple news about some dashboard updates, bundle firesales and an announcement that the same dude that was already responsible for all xbox games all the previous years is now in charge of the xbox brand and all of a sudden ms has enough strong wind and clean record to go for "sony's throat"
I don't have one but isn't it generally agreed using XBO with a controller is like pretending to be a trapeze artist in a moving labyrinth?First: Wich device requires a camera attached?
Second: The guy described an hypothetical case, If that happens I think MS will come up with solutions to all the isues that you said.
Gamefaqs? You trust CNET anymore then you trust those other guys? It's the only site that has any hard numbers... it's one thing to except software numbers, but hardware is not generally to far off
please point to where I typed unlimited.... don't get upset... we NEED both consoles (preferable all three) to do extremely well because in the end that is what drives things forward.
if you think the PS2 era was good... >_> there was more garbage on the PS2 then on the Wii
That certainly will be true... I imagine Japan will have more then a 2:1 ratio... some European countries, but US and UK are still the biggest markets and I don't care what Phil Spencer says I think consoles are all but dead in Japan. I really don't care if their is 4 or 10 million dollar difference when in the end you hope to see both systems go past the 80 million mark at the end of their life span.
Keep digging that hole for yourself.
We don't need any of that. The market will choose and show what consumers want. If that means XB1 will be a distant second place then thats a good thing. Its telling MS people want cheaper, more powerful hardware as well as no BS DRM.
Well thats because PS2 had a far far far larger library. Biggest in gaming history. It also has the best gaming library in gaming.
The ration in JP will more likely be 20:1 lol
If you can point me to a better site that tracks this stuff I'm more then happy to give it a look. I just don't understand why you link me GameFaqs... it makes no sense. I don't look at those guys as the be all end all, but they are the only site I know that post numbers anymore. You act like you know the universal truths so please point me to something with actual information that you find more valid.
Those charts are a few months old...there servers are catching up to Amazon in terms of sales.
Amazing thread. Very entertaining.
Thank you gentlemen.
more like Crappy: more crappy
and yes they had a MASSIVE library much of that was crap... if I had any desire I'd go and find out the ratio of good (70 +) to bad (50 and below) on metacritic... I wonder if it would be around the same ball part percentage wise?
more like Crappy: more crappy
and yes they had a MASSIVE library much of that was crap... if I had any desire I'd go and find out the ratio of good (70 +) to bad (50 and below) on metacritic... I wonder if it would be around the same ball part percentage wise?
If you can point me to a better site that tracks this stuff I'm more then happy to give it a look. I just don't understand why you link me GameFaqs... it makes no sense . I don't look at those guys as the be all end all, but they are the only site I know that post numbers anymore. You act like you know the universal truths so please point me to something with actual information that you find more valid.