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Windows Phone |OT3| Apollo has landed
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Zune HD was a peek at what might have been....
It's somewhere in Terry's office.
brotkasten
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I also missed the entire day and read some of the pages in the reveal thread. For a second I thought it was last years Surface price thread. Exact same reactions.
Other than that it was pretty much what Thurrot wrote. No surprises.
antiquegamer
Member
No. I fear for the future of Windows Phone on Microsoft hardware after today showing of Surface 2. Let make product no one want (again) and make it even more overprice comparing to competitor. Surface 2 = Surface HD. It will suffer the same fate as Zune.
PseudoKirby
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damnit AT&T Approve GDR2 already!!!!!!
At least it would look sexy. I'd take Surface over any of those cheap looking Samsung/Nexus tablets. Sony's tablet looks nice though.
Give me Surface Phone!
lastflowers
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that's what happens when steveB loses 900 million because of you!
He takes your youth as payment? Nice.
Anton Sugar
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I read this as "damn ATT approved GDR2 already!!!!!" FUCK YOU
Yeah I think I'm in for a Surface Pro 2 + dock I think. Would have been amazing if the dock had PCIe for external video though!
I would really like a Pro 2. See how much money I have left after getting the X1. If the Gen 1 Pro dropped another hundred I would maybe consider that as well.
(I typed this post using the Touch cover on my wife's RT. Works great, and the new covers sound even better).
(I typed this post using the Touch cover on my wife's RT. Works great, and the new covers sound even better).
antiquegamer
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I have no doubt the hold this update simply because of 1020 and 925. With the update the 920 is even better and I would have wait to get 1020 when the price is even lower. The Pro camera app is light year ahead of Microsoft crappy app. 920 also process picture really quick unlike pre-Amber 920 (one of my main peep with the phone).
Didn't Nokia promise Amber for everyone by the end of this month?
José Mourinho
cocknose
So my 820 just dropped from no higher than about 18" and the screen has cracked. But not the glass, just the screen underneath. Rather miffed.
Happened to my mothers - except it was more like 12 inches! Nokia was no help at all with it either... "oh sure, send it in" comes back with note "not covered under warranty" call back. "oh must have been a mistake, send it back!" note, one week later: "nokia doesn't fix cracked displays"
Called AT&T, got new phone.
José Mourinho
cocknose
I guessed it wouldn't be covered under warranty but I suppose I'll have to call Nokia and / or O2 tomorrow. Hope I get a straight yes or no as to whether it is covered or not, don't want to go through the hassle you mentioned of sending it in only to be told they won't sort it,
I was dealing with Nokia US though. So hopefully you have better luck with them.
Honestly, I didn't even care if display cracking was not covered under warranty. a 12" fall should not break the display, it was defective in my book.
Good luck!!
Poor Panos, he's gained weight and got gray hairs from all the stress of the Surface failure. Hope these version 2 devices go well for his sake.
antiquegamer
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It's not defective, it just have cheap glass. It doesn't matter how low you drop it, if it hit hard surface it will shattered. My co-worker drop his twice and he switch back to iPhone after it broke the 2nd time. He told me Nokia make cheap phone.
My son drop his from a chair and it cracked. You can get replacement glass fairly cheap, if you know how to replace it. My daughter 620 on the other hand get toss on to pavement, fling across our hardwood floor and not a scratch.
Jazzy Network
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Guys, android user here, I wanna start getting a feel for WP8. Is Lumia 920 good place to start or should I go for like a 925?
killer rin
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How do you feel about having Wireless Charging built in? If any indication that its a yes, go for the 920. If you don't care for the feature, go for the 925.
If you want to stick to Android and just get a second phone to try out Windows Phone, you could just get a Lumia 520/521. It's very cheap and yet still pretty great.
oh, the glass was fine. It was the AMOLED screen underneath that cracked!
antiquegamer
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You would have been in for expensive repair, good thing you get them to fix it for you. I am surprise that cheap glass didn't shattered also. I probably will put the 820 on eBay for cheap and give my son my old 920. It is just a matter of when he will drop it again.
José Mourinho
cocknose
As joshchw says, the glass is intact, it's the AMOLED that has cracked.
Edit: Nearest Nokia place is a few hours drive away and I O2 require it be sent to them before they can deliver the inevitable verdict that they will charge me to fix it. Options aren't great.
That happened with my Nexus One :\ AMOLEDs are pretty fragile sadly
http://www.wpcentral.com/innovation-reinvented-nokia-abu-dhabi-october-22
Remember the event that got pushed back?
Remember the event that got pushed back?
José Mourinho
cocknose
It's on it's way to O2 now. Nokia Care in Derry quoted me £60 so O2 best come back with a reasonable price.
Back to using this Galaxy Ace and honestly have no idea how I coped with it. It's so dire.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
It could be your carrier, weak or inconsistent signals will absolutely murder your battery.
brotkasten
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Android is getting PvZ 2 next month. Any bets on when the WP port will be released?
Thurrott thinks Microsoft's entire devices strategy is dumb: http://windowsitpro.com/cloud/microsoft-devices-services-software ... and he's not wrong. Xbox, PCs and tablets, and phones. The way things are going Microsoft's hardware division will probably rival its Online division when it comes to losing money.
At the same time, just concentrating on Software isn't ideal, either: "The biggest expense on some PCs is the Windows license, which explains why these companies are actually building Chromebooks now, too: Chrome OS is free. The PC business model might be irreparably broken."
Besides, in mobile, if Microsoft won't make Windows phones, no one will.
The thing is, if Microsoft's licensing model is actually broken and devices are a mistake, there really isn't much of Microsoft left. For now Office still works well, but at some point even Office may have a hard time competing with free.
At the same time, just concentrating on Software isn't ideal, either: "The biggest expense on some PCs is the Windows license, which explains why these companies are actually building Chromebooks now, too: Chrome OS is free. The PC business model might be irreparably broken."
Besides, in mobile, if Microsoft won't make Windows phones, no one will.
The thing is, if Microsoft's licensing model is actually broken and devices are a mistake, there really isn't much of Microsoft left. For now Office still works well, but at some point even Office may have a hard time competing with free.
I'm at my office with a solid signal. Same place I've used the phone 5 days a week since I got the phone back in June. On most days I'll go home with 65-75% battery left, today I'm at 35% with about 2 hours left.
NeOak
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Launch game for Windows Phone 8.2
Another article condemning Microsoft's Windows Phone strategy: http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2013/9/10/windows-mobile-one-more-push
"Arguably, Windows Phone is just a tactic, and a failing one at that. Microsoft, like Nokia in 2010, should move from denial to acceptance and work out what comes next. "
"What if Microsoft were to do what Amazon has done to Android? Make a suite of services for mobile, ranging from sandboxed apps for iOS to a complete ROM for Android, and everything in between. Buy Cyanogen and Good. Make its own launcher, UI and app store? Above all, put Office and Exchange on the iPad."
He isn't wrong, either. Microsoft would probably be better off just shutting down Windows Phone and not purchasing Nokia.
"Arguably, Windows Phone is just a tactic, and a failing one at that. Microsoft, like Nokia in 2010, should move from denial to acceptance and work out what comes next. "
"What if Microsoft were to do what Amazon has done to Android? Make a suite of services for mobile, ranging from sandboxed apps for iOS to a complete ROM for Android, and everything in between. Buy Cyanogen and Good. Make its own launcher, UI and app store? Above all, put Office and Exchange on the iPad."
He isn't wrong, either. Microsoft would probably be better off just shutting down Windows Phone and not purchasing Nokia.
lastflowers
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Fox Mulder
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don't they still make a shitload of money from their patent licensing agreements with android manufacturers?
brotkasten
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They're making money in Android and ChromeOS, but it might not be enough in the long run.
lastflowers
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and because I need a cup of coffee. I drink a cup for every purchase.
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