brotkasten
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Flashing a ROM is a step lower than an OS update. You're basically formatting the hard drive of your phone and installing the OS it came with.
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Windows Phone |OT3 Update 3| Please be excited
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Flashing a ROM is a step lower than an OS update. You're basically formatting the hard drive of your phone and installing the OS it came with.
Well...
Can't find where I originally read about it, but using Nokia updater software, it's possible.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/04/downgrade-windows-phone-8-1-to-8-0-possible/
My phone's battery is acting weird again too. Maybe if I sacrificed the old LG flip phone I had things would improve. Surround it with my other Microsoft products, put a picture of Gates at the top, set the LG phone on fire, and then yell Kali Ma for a few minutes. Might work.
If you think I'm being serious then I feel bad for you son.
Yep! Quickly updated mine!
Anybody knows how often the phone checks for updates from the Store? I usually find myself doing it manually.
I'm sure once a day, By default it is set to auto update.
I got 99 problems, battery drain is one...
Diagnostic-app isn't much use for battery drain either, since it only logs for 10 minutes
High 5
Seriously, I've spent the last hour browsing gaf on train wifi, having Spotify on (offline playlists), and lost 50% battery, and the phone is hotter than when I use the camera for long periods of times. Something's not right here.
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Checked my tabs and had like 10 opened, seems new IE doesn't reuse tabs but always opens new ones, wonder if that has anything to do with the drain.
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Checked my tabs and had like 10 opened, seems new IE doesn't reuse tabs but always opens new ones, wonder if that has anything to do with the drain.
Yeah, and every other week for a while. If they are releasing that frequently that means there is still probably plenty to do though lol.
This is true, lol.
they probably are
The existing preview of the app started on Windows Phone 8, so I don't know how universal the final one is going to end up.
Oddly I'm not having much trouble with the music app. Performance can be improved and the lock screen functionality is broken, but music plays fine. The video app however still won't work for me =/
I'm wondering if my performance issues were cortana related. It didn't take Cortana long to remember things about me at first, but she never did it after I wiped all of that saved data. She wasn't tracking my data even after the hard reset. Well I wiped everything locally and on the cloud again and entered some interests of my own instead of waiting for her to figure it out. Well the performance problems seem to have mostly cleared since then. Could just be a coincidence, who knows, I'm just happy I'm running into less lock ups and loading screens.
I'm wondering if my performance issues were cortana related. It didn't take Cortana long to remember things about me at first, but she never did it after I wiped all of that saved data. She wasn't tracking my data even after the hard reset. Well I wiped everything locally and on the cloud again and entered some interests of my own instead of waiting for her to figure it out. Well the performance problems seem to have mostly cleared since then. Could just be a coincidence, who knows, I'm just happy I'm running into less lock ups and loading screens.
I have no idea how they managed to introduce loading times to lists of games and music.
It's some achievement, really.
The worst thing is that there was already 2 updates to the games hub and it's still like that. Doesn't fill me with confidence that the music app problems will be fixed any time soon.
The xbox music app on Windows was horrible when it first came out. It's still not as good as Zune was (though it's a lot better than it used to be). But at least you didn't have to wait for literally half a minute your music to be loaded when you opened the app. And again every time you go back to artists.
And I don't mean literally in the Jamie Redknapp sort of way.
It's some achievement, really.
The worst thing is that there was already 2 updates to the games hub and it's still like that. Doesn't fill me with confidence that the music app problems will be fixed any time soon.
The xbox music app on Windows was horrible when it first came out. It's still not as good as Zune was (though it's a lot better than it used to be). But at least you didn't have to wait for literally half a minute your music to be loaded when you opened the app. And again every time you go back to artists.
And I don't mean literally in the Jamie Redknapp sort of way.
Must be coming soon, when they release a reading list app.
Also looks like Apple is baking in Song Recognition into iOS and tying it to their music store. Why has no-one else thought of that before?
No, not yet.
I'd say use Poki, but they haven't updated the app for 8.1 yet, so you can't share things to it at the moment.
Anton Sugar
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This is seriously cool: Bing Credits get you airline points/miles
I just wish they supported British Airways or Southwest
So we can all pretty much agree that Start screen backgrounds are awesome, right?
I just wish they supported British Airways or Southwest
So we can all pretty much agree that Start screen backgrounds are awesome, right?
It's strange how they always abandon everything they worked on and start from scratch with every OS release.
I get the feeling that microsoft has all these grand ideas that wants to be implemented at a fundamental level. So rather than iterate on the top level for too long, they will rebuild it from scratch with the learning from the last go.
So they probably build something technical that is amazing, but the end user experience needs more time to get back to where it was, before leveraging this new foundation.
The big example of this was Longhorn and Vista - which stuff like the WinFS (RIP), sound system and graphics drivers were redone.
Although saying that Xbox music is shit and never should have been released like this. Bring back Zune.
juliushandle
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you guys gonna cry about Kin too?
frontieruk
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Hmm got an email this morning saying gapless playback was under review, how did they let this happen after the fuss to actually get it on zune is beyond me.
Anyone else kinda iffy on the new people hub? I understand it's better for updates, and in future, more apps to integrate itself with. Though, for now the only change is that each Facebook post I click on takes several seconds to load up, and there's no way to get from content to comments, and hitting back doesn't work either... and did I mention that loading time, eeek!
for some reason 8.1 started hammering the battery in my 1520 and killed it midafternoon. I was stuck in the office without a charging solution so I left it off; luckily it got up to about 7% when I turned it on again as I was leaving for the day. I open up XM during my train ride home and because of the nearly depleted battery, it throws up some BS DRM failure to check error message, locking out all the subscription-based music on my phone. Fucking annoying.
All the hubs have been deprecated, and it fucking sucks. 8.1 makes WP more of a mainstream OS but takes away some of what made it special
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
People hub went from being great to awful. Like almost all the other built in hubs.
http://www.wpcentral.com/social-extensibility-framework-windows-phone-81-will-make-things-better
It's "awful" because you're using a developer preview, which exists explicitly so developers can get early access to it before the vast majority of customers do in order to build their apps in a way that use the new APIs as intended.
It's "awful" because you're using a developer preview, which exists explicitly so developers can get early access to it before the vast majority of customers do in order to build their apps in a way that use the new APIs as intended.
I prefer the new people hub. Inline images and URLs that are actually formatted properly are nice, and the new framework means there won't be a situation where features found in an application aren't available from the hub. The experience will improve once 8.1 isn't weeks old.
On that note, I like the new photos app. The panorama always seemed redundant when its live tile already displayed your photographs and other pivots could already be found elsewhere. Actually grouping albums in the camera roll is nice, and Twitter/Facebook/Onedrive are largely intact. I'm assuming OneDrive will be updated with the ability to upload images from the app.
No ability to zoom out when browsing photographs is the only odd omission.
Transparency is tied to tiles that use your phone's accent color. Some apps need to be updated by the developer. Backgrounds are available in start+theme.
On that note, I like the new photos app. The panorama always seemed redundant when its live tile already displayed your photographs and other pivots could already be found elsewhere. Actually grouping albums in the camera roll is nice, and Twitter/Facebook/Onedrive are largely intact. I'm assuming OneDrive will be updated with the ability to upload images from the app.
No ability to zoom out when browsing photographs is the only odd omission.
Transparency is tied to tiles that use your phone's accent color. Some apps need to be updated by the developer. Backgrounds are available in start+theme.
Anton Sugar
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Will it ever aggregate social notifications and update the live tile again? With that gone, I have zero use for it.
I don't know if the APIs enable apps to update the Me tile, but for me that functionality was never reliable anyway. Especially with the notification center, which enables developers to not just add new notifications, but also remove outdated notifications in the event it was "cleared" from somewhere else, the Me tile is a remnant of the past.
The Facebook app has been poor for years, and that's really the main issue with the new People Hub. So while there may be no OS limitation to the fact it's poor at the moment, we also have no reason to assume that suddenly the Facebook app will be good after all these years either, don't you see our viewpoint?
Edit: I could see the new ME tile being useful once we get a few new People hub apps. Still an easy to go to place to post your updates and such.
brotkasten
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The same was said about the apps that came with some pre-RTM Windows 8.0 version and how the big fat "preview" banner in those apps were an indication that they shouldn't be judged like final release versions. Then the consumer version was released and it took another year for those apps to become useful. Nothing is going to get turned around in another 3 months. The Xbox Music beta app has been out for a while now, but very basic things like the fucking scrubber are still missing. That has nothing to do with betas and previews and version numbers and it's simply a case of mismanagement.
So the bits are going to change when the "official release" is upon us?
Yup, music hub and general bugs.
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