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Windows Phone |OT3 Update 3| Please be excited
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RT has served me well in college. Might upgrade after I graduate.
Microsoft the last thing you want is to piss off your developers...
http://wmpoweruser.com/mehdoh-dev-unpublishing-all-apps-due-to-wp8-1-api-changes/
http://wmpoweruser.com/mehdoh-dev-unpublishing-all-apps-due-to-wp8-1-api-changes/
The Faceless Master
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i can't rep RT, but i love my Surface Pro!
I think they've already pissed off developers a long time ago. Dropping Silverlight, XNA, going with JavaScript and HTML 5 for app development instead of .NET for W8 and now wp api changes.
HTML5 is just an option, .NET I'd still there. Agreed on the others though, this is the third time they have made substantial API changes
juliushandle
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This Lumia 2520 has made me believe in the RT platform. App situation is worse than WP but the browser makes up for it. I have my phone's browser favorites as well as my favorite bar from my laptop. Every single site I've tried has worked great including amazon prime video, amazon MP3 cloud player, Spotify, Pandora, and partycloud (although this runs a slight sluggish but the music never gets interrupted). If the browser allowed me to pin sites to the home screen it be perfect.
Seriously, with Office included, I am shocked these tablets heaved sold well.
My tablet is a steal at $300.
Seriously, with Office included, I am shocked these tablets heaved sold well.
My tablet is a steal at $300.
You can pin sites to the home screen.
I see more and more people with RT tablets now. I used to be the only one at my college who had a Surface RT but now I've seen like 4 other people with one. A fully functional Office suite on a ten inch tablet is not something to scoff at for sure.
juliushandle
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Yes but only IE desktop which sucks on tablets in comparison to IE metro.
antiquegamer
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Wait why can't you pin IE metro to start screen? Or am I misunderstood what you are saying?
Nokia purchase will be another in the long line of fail acquisition by Ballmer. I can't imagine Nokia get integrate into Microsoft and work well. Also devs complaining and abandoning WP should be alarming for Windows Phone. We already have small apps and can't afford to loose the one already here. Also will be hard to attract development if Microsoft continue to make it difficult for developers.
juliushandle
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yes, that's exactly what i'm saying. you can't pin IE Metro sites to the start screen but you can pin IE Desktop sites to the start screen. problem is that IE Desktop sucks with touch.
oh geez IE Metro is amazing. if this browser had been released on WP sooner i think MS would have a better standing in the mobile game. this IE works just like IE desktop but is made for touch. exactly what sooo many have wanted all along when moving into the mobile world but MS was too slow to react. now the masses have switched into this app-centric mentality and now MS is where they are now, digging themselves out from a ditch.
Steelyuhas
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What? You can definitely pin sites from the Metro version of IE.
LukasTaves
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juliushandle
Member
My bad, my bing search only produced instructions for pinning IE desktop. Found out how to pin IE metro sites now.
Fjolle
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Weren't people told to stay away from silverlight long time ago?
brotkasten
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Blah blah, not for the western market, blah blah.
Engadget reviews the Nokia X
Wrap-up
For its cost, it has respectable features and solid hardware, but it doesn't have enough redeeming qualities to help it pull ahead of its competition. The specs are comparable to a sub-$150 Android smartphone. However, the ecosystem is more confusing and the performance doesn't quite meet my expectations for a budget device. Plus, who knows how long Microsoft will keep it around and update it? Nokia's still a trusted brand, and it'll get a lot of interest in developing markets regardless of the competition, but I was ultimately too frustrated to recommend this over other similarly priced models.
The X works better as a possible Asha replacement than a full-on smartphone experience, and perhaps that will happen in the next year or two. I'm more confident in the performance of low-end Windows Phones like the Lumia 520 than I am in comparable Androids, and a dual-SIM Lumia in this price range would be a much more compelling deal.
Pros
Cons
Conclusion
For its price, the X has respectable features and good hardware. However, its confusing ecosystem and numerous performance issues make it hard to recommend over similarly priced budget phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/29/nokia-x-review/
Engadget reviews the Nokia X
Wrap-up
For its cost, it has respectable features and solid hardware, but it doesn't have enough redeeming qualities to help it pull ahead of its competition. The specs are comparable to a sub-$150 Android smartphone. However, the ecosystem is more confusing and the performance doesn't quite meet my expectations for a budget device. Plus, who knows how long Microsoft will keep it around and update it? Nokia's still a trusted brand, and it'll get a lot of interest in developing markets regardless of the competition, but I was ultimately too frustrated to recommend this over other similarly priced models.
The X works better as a possible Asha replacement than a full-on smartphone experience, and perhaps that will happen in the next year or two. I'm more confident in the performance of low-end Windows Phones like the Lumia 520 than I am in comparable Androids, and a dual-SIM Lumia in this price range would be a much more compelling deal.
Pros
- Reasonable hardware for the price
- Battery life is good for most tasks
Cons
- Poor performance and responsiveness
- No access to Google services
- Can't multitask from apps
- Mediocre call quality
Conclusion
For its price, the X has respectable features and good hardware. However, its confusing ecosystem and numerous performance issues make it hard to recommend over similarly priced budget phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/29/nokia-x-review/
antiquegamer
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Is this RT only thing? I pin IE Metro site all the time on my Windows 8 computer, actually on this computer that I am typing right now I have Bing IE Metro and GAF Metro pin to start screen. I agree that IE Metro is really good, I was hoping we would get same browser on Windows Phone. I use IE Metro exclusively on my Windows 8 tablet (ASUS) and on that I also have several IE sites pin to Start Screen so unless it's RT limitation, you might want to check.
Spectral Entity
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I'm actually curious to see how Microsoft will promote the WP brand now and get the public to care about it.
I've taken a new job at DirecTV and the general reaction to my WP phone runs along the lines of "meh" and "really?".
One guy who has a Note 3 said they were too slow as he has octacore (yet didn't know we also use Qualcomm processors) then pointed at the interface and said he didn't like the tiles, to which I rebutted how they are merely icons like on Android, or a PC.
Another time, we were in a tech workshop learning about the various devices you can stream DirecTV programming on and the guy only kept mentioning Android, IOS, so I say there's a third option, Windows Phone, and held up my 925. Some girl actually went "Aww" like in pity. ?!
tl;dr Damn people are ingrained with only 2 choices: Android, IOS. MS has a battle ahead to win the masses over.
I love my Windows Phones, and the Microsoft ecosystem.
I've taken a new job at DirecTV and the general reaction to my WP phone runs along the lines of "meh" and "really?".
One guy who has a Note 3 said they were too slow as he has octacore (yet didn't know we also use Qualcomm processors) then pointed at the interface and said he didn't like the tiles, to which I rebutted how they are merely icons like on Android, or a PC.
Another time, we were in a tech workshop learning about the various devices you can stream DirecTV programming on and the guy only kept mentioning Android, IOS, so I say there's a third option, Windows Phone, and held up my 925. Some girl actually went "Aww" like in pity. ?!
tl;dr Damn people are ingrained with only 2 choices: Android, IOS. MS has a battle ahead to win the masses over.
I love my Windows Phones, and the Microsoft ecosystem.
The decision to develop and worse, actually release these things boggles the mind.
brotkasten
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The days where Windows Phone is ahead of Android in terms of design are over.
Spotify for Android just got a major UI overhaul (not that it looked bad before).
vs
(Last updated: 12/5/2011)
Boooo.
Spotify for Android just got a major UI overhaul (not that it looked bad before).
vs
(Last updated: 12/5/2011)
Boooo.
runningjoke
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I think I'd prefer the WP UX for that app, but it needs white text on a black background.
The days where Windows Phone is ahead of Android in terms of design are over.
Spotify for Android just got a major UI overhaul (not that it looked bad before).
vs
(Last updated: 12/5/2011)
Boooo.
It's your own fault if your name is Hugo.
In french. Ügö!
Seriously, Spotify is really bad in terms of app development on WP. I don't understand it.
trineo_feo
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mine last updated on 12/07/2013?
but yeah, still ugly
Wasn't the WP Spotify app actually developed by MS anyway? I recall reading that somewhere.
brotkasten
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I got that from the web store page.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/spotify/ca8d6603-a9ae-4a05-8643-baad091ecdd1
You are not the first person I've seen here think this. Why do you think they dropped C#?
Anton Sugar
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The days where Windows Phone is ahead of Android in terms of design are over.
Spotify for Android just got a major UI overhaul (not that it looked bad before).
vs
(Last updated: 12/5/2011)
Boooo.
Half-assed third party WP app design ≠ WP design.
Spotify is ass, though.
juliushandle
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I finally posted that I did finally get I to work. Bing search for instructions only showed me how to do it with IE Desktop. Now I have facebook, Spotify, Pandora, amazon prime, and amazon cloud player all pinned and looking like legit apps but actually take you to their full features websites.
Anton Sugar
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So are your searches via Cortana not saved as Bing searches? It was nice to have a unified search history.
So quick question:
- I updated my phone to 8.1 (with all the items set for backup to one drive)
- My phone developed (or already had) a hardware fault and i sent it in for repair
- The phone has been imaged back to WP8.0
What is the best restore strategy? I'm worried that if i sign in under WP8.0 all the 8.1 backup will be deleted, so when i update to 8.1 it'll not work.
Any thoughts?
- I updated my phone to 8.1 (with all the items set for backup to one drive)
- My phone developed (or already had) a hardware fault and i sent it in for repair
- The phone has been imaged back to WP8.0
What is the best restore strategy? I'm worried that if i sign in under WP8.0 all the 8.1 backup will be deleted, so when i update to 8.1 it'll not work.
Any thoughts?
Don't do a restore, then do the upgrade to 8.1, do a factory reset and restore.
frontieruk
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I'll believe it when I don't see those apps after the 8.1 launch, did the same thing going to 7.5 and 8. He does seem more pissed this time though.
lastflowers
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I believe your restore will still be there for 8.1, though I can't guarantee it. If you are really worried, you can make another MSA, do the free app-dev process online, upgrade to 8.1 on the phone, factory reset the phone, and then sign on with your real MSA.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Sucks about the mehdoh developer, that's the twitter app I use. Hopefully its just a tantrum that he will get over. Can't afford to lose any of these devs that build better clients than the first party services that ignite the platform beyond token support.
My thought with this is that as soon as I upgrade to 8.1, it might start overwriting the backup I had.
Going down this route. I don't even need to sign up for the app-dev process as i can log in separately for the "previeew for developers" app.
Hah have to do GDR3 first..."updated to the latest software" my arse. (at least "migrating your data" will be quick).
Thanks.
lastflowers
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brotkasten
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Words to live by.
NeOak
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Based Joe!
Anton Sugar
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Windows 8's Reading List is now useful (for me)! Windows Reading List comes to Windows Phone 8.1
Download link.
Download link.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Nice, that's a killer app for me.
frontieruk
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Bah I called it, glad to see he's not walking though.
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