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Windows Phone |OT3 Update 3| Please be excited
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My birthday is in mid June. Any chance I'll be able to use 8.1 then?
God, this is getting hilarious. One year is stretching it. 15-18 months is kinda embarrassing. But it looks like it'll take even longer than that now?
WP 8.1 can make freshly prepared Strawberry Cheesecake for you though. That's worth the wait, isn't it?
juliushandle
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might hold on to my 920 a while longer and get my GF an unlocked Verizon HTC 8X for $149 rather then buying myself the 1020 for about $400 and handing her down my 920. looking to move into those new ATT mobile shared plan and upgrading her T-Mobile HD7 to an ATT compatible WP8.
lastflowers
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The new wearable is the easy-bake oven. Bluetooth syncage for alarm setting and notifications for when your strawberry cheesecake is done.
You know what, an oven that sends notifications ain't a bad idea.
juliushandle
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flappy birds exclusive for WP!!!
So I asked my sister's boyfriend about the issues with the 8X. Turns out it's not a messaging issue, after all.
He said the phone frequently freezes or reboots (which led him to not 'get' the messages).
No idea how often it happened exactly. Could be a hardware defect or software issue. When he gets his new Xperia Z1 Compact I'll do a factory reset on the 8X and test it myself. If it's a software issue, I'll buy the phone off him t replace my LG Optimus 7.
He said the phone frequently freezes or reboots (which led him to not 'get' the messages).
No idea how often it happened exactly. Could be a hardware defect or software issue. When he gets his new Xperia Z1 Compact I'll do a factory reset on the 8X and test it myself. If it's a software issue, I'll buy the phone off him t replace my LG Optimus 7.
lastflowers
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My mum had some bad issues with a sim card. If he is using the sim card from in the box, that might be the issue. Getting a new one fixed all of my mother's issues.
yeah most likely that's it.
April 2nd means April 2nd.
If you have the developer preview enabled you'll be able to download it then.
It's a month and a half from now. Took long enough of course, but now it's genuinely close. Take away this week and the week it comes, that's only 6 weeks. Since February isn't a real month anyway, it's basically only 4 weeks. 3, really.
Few things
WP8.1 will support javascript for programming.
WP and WinRt are categorize now under Store Apps in visual studio.
app list unchanged
Battery sense (see what apps are taking the charge), data sense and storage sense. Oh there is a new podcast app and bings app are install by default.
WP8.1 will support javascript for programming.
WP and WinRt are categorize now under Store Apps in visual studio.
app list unchanged
Battery sense (see what apps are taking the charge), data sense and storage sense. Oh there is a new podcast app and bings app are install by default.
I still don't have black update on my 920. don't know when I will get 8.1
3 Italy sucks!!!!!!
Fortunately, the black update isn't that big of a deal, so waiting shouldn't be too hard. If they take too long with 8.1 there are of course other options. E.g. with a developer account you could get 8.1 as soon as April. And there are ways to flash updates manually.
yeah I know its not big deal that's why I have tried other methods yet. I wont accept it for 8.1 though
Few things
WP8.1 will support javascript for programming.
WP and WinRt are categorize now under Store Apps in visual studio.
app list unchanged
Battery sense (see what apps are taking the charge), data sense and storage sense. Oh there is a new podcast app and bings app are install by default.
Battery sense is a welcome feature. It's good that Windows Phone and Windows are moving a bit closer together and it should make porting Javascript Windows apps to Windows Phone easier, but since the vast majority of Windows apps are written in C# anyway, it probably won't much matter.
Few other things
no more music+video. Now there is a music app that is exactly like xbox music. Same for the video app.
skydrive is now OneDrive.
GridView and ListView joing the WP family.
SD CARD install! But you can change the manifest to prevent your app from being install in SD.
no more music+video. Now there is a music app that is exactly like xbox music. Same for the video app.
skydrive is now OneDrive.
GridView and ListView joing the WP family.
SD CARD install! But you can change the manifest to prevent your app from being install in SD.
LukasTaves
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What about IE, does it now syncs favs and tabs with metro IE on 8.1?
MS also promised the reading list app for WP, is it installed too?
Xbone smartglass is still a separated app, or it's integrated to the games hub like the 360 one?
MS also promised the reading list app for WP, is it installed too?
Xbone smartglass is still a separated app, or it's integrated to the games hub like the 360 one?
can you give a link. reddit is a mess to search lol
killer rin
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Interesting. I wont have to rely on the Toolkit for ListBox anymore if I can just use ListView in the OS. Seeing all the new stuff, I already have Ideas for how I want to redo the Anitro UI.
LukasTaves
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So I take from this and the music +video info that they are moving away from the hubs...
Such a shame, would prefer to have more Apis which apps could use to hook up with the hubs...
killer rin
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That or they are just being split into two separate subs. Which I kind of hope they are considering how useful hubs are. That said, looking at his list of changes, as a developer, I'm extremely excited for the new tools and APIs.
They're going for the secret features that they don't want others to copy like they did with WP8. Which means there are no secret features. Everything should be leaked soon with the SDK out.
More stuff
No more silverlight. So apps now can share XAML between WinRT and WP8 (sometimes whole pages).
Instead of an AppBard there is a commandbard. (only bottom) You can bind to the buttons.
Tilt no longer requires a toolkit. Instead is build into most control styles using PointerDownThemeAnimation .
Goodbye XAP hello APPX.
Back button doesn't terminate the app. The whole life cycle is like win rt.
Back button doesnt go back by default, instead you do this:
No more silverlight. So apps now can share XAML between WinRT and WP8 (sometimes whole pages).
Instead of an AppBard there is a commandbard. (only bottom) You can bind to the buttons.
Tilt no longer requires a toolkit. Instead is build into most control styles using PointerDownThemeAnimation .
Goodbye XAP hello APPX.
Back button doesn't terminate the app. The whole life cycle is like win rt.
Back button doesnt go back by default, instead you do this:
Code:
public App() { this.InitializeComponent(); this.Suspending += OnSuspending; Windows.Phone.UI.Input.HardwareButtons.BackPressed += HardwareButtons_BackPressed; }
void HardwareButtons_BackPressed(object sender, Windows.Phone.UI.Input.BackPressedEventArgs e)
{
Frame rootFrame = Window.Current.Content as Frame;
if (rootFrame != null)
{
if (rootFrame.CanGoBack)
{
rootFrame.GoBack();
e.Handled = true;
}
}
}
Navigation: this.Frame.Navigate(typeof(AboutPage));Not just Cortana:
So I don't expect any leaks about user-facing features from the SDK. But I like what I'm reading about the developer side.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Loving the leaks, can't wait to install this on my "developer" device.
Yes, that helps a bit, but it doesn't protect much and makes it impractical to carry around so I only use it when I hike or special occasions.
I really don't think the size will be an issue. At all. My phone is more computer and entertainment device than phone. I think a wired headset will suffice.
The way I see it, the next Nokia flagship and the next flagship iPhone won't be out until October or so. That's 8 months. I'll just sell the 1520 then and buy whatever the best phone is for me in the fall. I'm hoping its a 1020 successor.
Yes, that helps a bit, but it doesn't protect much and makes it impractical to carry around so I only use it when I hike or special occasions.
I really don't think the size will be an issue. At all. My phone is more computer and entertainment device than phone. I think a wired headset will suffice.
The way I see it, the next Nokia flagship and the next flagship iPhone won't be out until October or so. That's 8 months. I'll just sell the 1520 then and buy whatever the best phone is for me in the fall. I'm hoping its a 1020 successor.
Compatibility with what? You mean running old apps?
I think the sooner they align Windows Phone with Windows the better. It's good they are adopting the same life cycle model and probably background execution model.
I just hope they'll get it right this time and won't have to overhaul the entire system within two years -- i.e. if Windows Phone still exists in two years
killer rin
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There will likely be a compatibility layer which un-updated apps would reference. No way in hell are they going to force developers to update their apps again so soon. That would be a sure way to lose almost every ground they had gained this past year.
You really don't think they have something up their sleeve for 8.1? They gotta be working on something dropping in April/May
My guess:
Same SOC, same camera, same screen (5" 1080p), but I think it will have additional sensors for the rumoured off-screen gestures, like you say.
Built-in wireless charging with the updated Qi coil that is smaller and lighter and allows for bigger distance between the plate and the phone (details here).
Maybe a few other small additions.
So in essence, yeah, same phone with different marketing.
Same SOC, same camera, same screen (5" 1080p), but I think it will have additional sensors for the rumoured off-screen gestures, like you say.
Built-in wireless charging with the updated Qi coil that is smaller and lighter and allows for bigger distance between the plate and the phone (details here).
Maybe a few other small additions.
So in essence, yeah, same phone with different marketing.
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