oh yeah. that beginning arc was amazing, and then the boring ass chunin exams started and thats when I stopped. Played the games to catch up tho
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oh yeah. that beginning arc was amazing, and then the boring ass chunin exams started and thats when I stopped. Played the games to catch up tho
Japan Animator Expo - POWER PLANT No. 33
Ah yes, feels good to have an original piece of work again with some good animation. Definitely enjoyed it, although I do wish these type of things could be longer.
Freakin' TRIGGER's at it again......this time with a good writer.
Snarky comment and all that.. but where's the writer "achievement" in this?
ThatChairMan
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Shirobako 16
I wonder how common it is for creators to meddle in their anime adaptations of their works, or to what extent they are allowed to meddle. Would this episode be a showcase of the normal author approval process? I don't really want to compare it to what I've heard about Horizon's author.
And also, the veteran production assistant is literally worse than Tarou. At least he's genuine in his idiocy and admits it, but the new guy is just an ass.
I wonder how common it is for creators to meddle in their anime adaptations of their works, or to what extent they are allowed to meddle. Would this episode be a showcase of the normal author approval process? I don't really want to compare it to what I've heard about Horizon's author.
And also, the veteran production assistant is literally worse than Tarou. At least he's genuine in his idiocy and admits it, but the new guy is just an ass.
phoenix296
Member
Upotte 06
This has to be the most SDBurton anime I've seen. Move over Yamibo.
This has to be the most SDBurton anime I've seen. Move over Yamibo.
UltraGunner
Banned
Not until KLK is done airing.
Secret Character
Member
Yoru no Yatterman 1-3
I love how bleak this is. The tonal shift from everything that was early Tatsunoko animation is actually quite refreshing. I can't wait to see where this goes.
I love how bleak this is. The tonal shift from everything that was early Tatsunoko animation is actually quite refreshing. I can't wait to see where this goes.
nintendoman58
Member
Mazinkaiser VS The Great General of Darkness
Yes.
Yes.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Saekano a shit. That is all.
ShinRPGamer
Member
Mazinkaiser VS The Great General of Darkness
Yes.
I still need to watch this actually. It's kinda annoying how it isn't included in ADV's DVD release of Mazinkaiser.
What happened?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Saekano 3
I think maybe it's good that I didn't watch the otaku husband anime or the manga bookstore anime with Kobayashi last season, because Saekano engenders a kind of rage that I haven't felt since the end of the first SAO.
It was a slow burn through the three episodes, but just look at this shit:
Oh just fuck off. What was cute metatextuality 5 years ago on shows like Genshiken is now insufferable masturbation that satisfies no one except the very audience that should be smart enough to see through this shit.
I don't know if it's because I've become inundated with this garbage from both the Japanese side and the American side, but this self-aware fandom nonsense really has reached peak bullshit.
The thing is, I don't even care that it's a harem, or that it's a show about making a dating sim where the guy who wants to make it brings nothing to the table other than the fact that he has a penis that all the girls want to sit on. It's that shows like this just don't earn these kinds of moments:
Hey director/writer! YOU ARE NOT FUNNY. YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THE SHITTY WRITING OF YOUR SHOW JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE NERD AUDIENCE WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP.
When I seethe about the death of nerd culture, this is what I'm talking about, where the very media we consume isn't merely a reflection of our sycophantic desires, but an actual representation of it. Saekano is a show that keeps trying to remind me that I'm a part of this "insidery" group in an effort to get me to identify with the characters or at least the situations that the characters find themselves in, and all it does it make hate everyone involved... including myself.
I think maybe it's good that I didn't watch the otaku husband anime or the manga bookstore anime with Kobayashi last season, because Saekano engenders a kind of rage that I haven't felt since the end of the first SAO.
It was a slow burn through the three episodes, but just look at this shit:
Oh just fuck off. What was cute metatextuality 5 years ago on shows like Genshiken is now insufferable masturbation that satisfies no one except the very audience that should be smart enough to see through this shit.
I don't know if it's because I've become inundated with this garbage from both the Japanese side and the American side, but this self-aware fandom nonsense really has reached peak bullshit.
The thing is, I don't even care that it's a harem, or that it's a show about making a dating sim where the guy who wants to make it brings nothing to the table other than the fact that he has a penis that all the girls want to sit on. It's that shows like this just don't earn these kinds of moments:
Hey director/writer! YOU ARE NOT FUNNY. YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THE SHITTY WRITING OF YOUR SHOW JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE NERD AUDIENCE WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP.
When I seethe about the death of nerd culture, this is what I'm talking about, where the very media we consume isn't merely a reflection of our sycophantic desires, but an actual representation of it. Saekano is a show that keeps trying to remind me that I'm a part of this "insidery" group in an effort to get me to identify with the characters or at least the situations that the characters find themselves in, and all it does it make hate everyone involved... including myself.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
HATERS GONNA HATE!!! AMIRITE GUYS? KAPPA TROLLFACE MEME!!!!!!
Animator Expo #11 - Power Plant No.33
Can't say I could truly appreciate this one. It looked nice, and it gives the viewer a good understanding of the world it takes place in during just a short time, but I guess I didn't feel like enough happened in it to keep my interest. I guess the overt message in this one was people's reliance on technology, so much so that it becomes overbearing.
Animator Expo #10 - Yamadeloid
Really enjoyed this short. Though by the books, the story was told with so much energy and at such a pace that I felt I had seen an OVA once it was over. Was just fun a fun thing to watch. That dancing at the end was a bit silly (although fun, too).
Can't say I could truly appreciate this one. It looked nice, and it gives the viewer a good understanding of the world it takes place in during just a short time, but I guess I didn't feel like enough happened in it to keep my interest. I guess the overt message in this one was people's reliance on technology, so much so that it becomes overbearing.
Animator Expo #10 - Yamadeloid
Really enjoyed this short. Though by the books, the story was told with so much energy and at such a pace that I felt I had seen an OVA once it was over. Was just fun a fun thing to watch. That dancing at the end was a bit silly (although fun, too).
It certainly healed the wounds that were caused by Yami. That's for sure.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
Saekano 3
I think maybe it's good that I didn't watch the otaku husband anime or the manga bookstore anime with Kobayashi last season, because Saekano engenders a kind of rage that I haven't felt since the end of the first SAO.
It was a slow burn through the three episodes, but just look at this shit:
Oh just fuck off. What was cute metatextuality 5 years ago on shows like Genshiken is now insufferable masturbation that satisfies no one except the very audience that should be smart enough to see through this shit.
I don't know if it's because I've become inundated with this garbage from both the Japanese side and the American side, but this self-aware fandom nonsense really has reached peak bullshit.
The thing is, I don't even care that it's a harem, or that it's a show about making a dating sim where the guy who wants to make it brings nothing to the table other than the fact that he has a penis that all the girls want to sit on. It's that shows like this just don't earn these kinds of moments:
Hey director/writer! YOU ARE NOT FUNNY. YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THE SHITTY WRITING OF YOUR SHOW JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE NERD AUDIENCE WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP.
When I seethe about the death of nerd culture, this is what I'm talking about, where the very media we consume isn't merely a reflection of our sycophantic desires, but an actual representation of it. Saekano is a show that keeps trying to remind me that I'm a part of this "insidery" group in an effort to get me to identify with the characters or at least the situations that the characters find themselves in, and all it does it make hate everyone involved... including myself.
So it took you 3 episodes to reach the same point I did in 5 minutes of ep 0. OP included.
UltraGunner
Banned
Saekano 3
I think maybe it's good that I didn't watch the otaku husband anime or the manga bookstore anime with Kobayashi last season, because Saekano engenders a kind of rage that I haven't felt since the end of the first SAO.
It was a slow burn through the three episodes, but just look at this shit:
Oh just fuck off. What was cute metatextuality 5 years ago on shows like Genshiken is now insufferable masturbation that satisfies no one except the very audience that should be smart enough to see through this shit.
I don't know if it's because I've become inundated with this garbage from both the Japanese side and the American side, but this self-aware fandom nonsense really has reached peak bullshit.
The thing is, I don't even care that it's a harem, or that it's a show about making a dating sim where the guy who wants to make it brings nothing to the table other than the fact that he has a penis that all the girls want to sit on. It's that shows like this just don't earn these kinds of moments:
Hey director/writer! YOU ARE NOT FUNNY. YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THE SHITTY WRITING OF YOUR SHOW JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE NERD AUDIENCE WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP.
When I seethe about the death of nerd culture, this is what I'm talking about, where the very media we consume isn't merely a reflection of our sycophantic desires, but an actual representation of it. Saekano is a show that keeps trying to remind me that I'm a part of this "insidery" group in an effort to get me to identify with the characters or at least the situations that the characters find themselves in, and all it does it make hate everyone involved... including myself.
Aw yes, the Duke Nukem Forever approach to "satire": Deride the tropes common within the medium while also gleefully indulging in said tropes.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
There's an episode 0? Christ...
I feel like the difference is Duke Nukem is just sad. Like an old comedian trying to tell jokes that used to be funny in the 80s but are considered hack now. Saekano is very much reflected in the zeitgeist of nerd culture right now.
As a society, we're getting closer and closer to just having a show called "Reddit vs 4chan".
Yeah. 0 was a in media res episode set apparently at almost the end of the series.
I do kind of wonder about the books, which are supposedly famed for this commentary. I've not really read prose with fourth wall breakage etc. Just comics and animation/live action. I guess starting way back with Byrnes SheHulk runs.
I guess you didn't like Nozaki-kun either, which treads similar ground (media commentary).
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, it almost makes perfect sense for a show like Saekano to have an episode like that. lol
Thick James
Banned
Firehawk12 said:
So what's the diff. in what genshiken does and what saekano does Firehawk, coming from someone who never saw genshiken
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I think at that point nerd culture as a commodity didn't exist yet, so it never had the feeling of being gross. You also had more more counterbalance inasmuch as the nerds on Genshiken know exactly what they're going to do with books full of cartoon ladies getting impaled by various phallic objects.
Now, they are just packaging nerd culture as something nerds should just consume at face value. Hell, there is a company where you pay them 20 bucks a month for them to send you a box of "nerd" shit and Saekano feels like the anime equivalent of that.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Firehawk I caught up with Justified. S5 is by far the weakest but even a bad Justified season is better than your favorite anime.
Well genshiken is a lot about anime clubs and that culture. Not so much about the characters living a manga (aside from now in the manga as its been ruined by turning it into a harem comedy).
pls dont compare those two shows to crap like this or sao
See I consider those shows magnitudes worse than SAO at its worst or Saekano.
I only watched a couple episodes of the otaku husband anime but I'm not sure it deserves to be lumped in with those other ones.
A Black Falcon
Member
Great review! I entirely agree that going "lol isn't this genre terrible" with a series 100% within that genre is completely stupid. It's not funny, and it's not much in the way of commentary either; it's just stupid. If you know how bad it is, why are you making something so terrible? Make something better!Saekano 3
I think maybe it's good that I didn't watch the otaku husband anime or the manga bookstore anime with Kobayashi last season, because Saekano engenders a kind of rage that I haven't felt since the end of the first SAO.
It was a slow burn through the three episodes, but just look at this shit:
Oh just fuck off. What was cute metatextuality 5 years ago on shows like Genshiken is now insufferable masturbation that satisfies no one except the very audience that should be smart enough to see through this shit.
I don't know if it's because I've become inundated with this garbage from both the Japanese side and the American side, but this self-aware fandom nonsense really has reached peak bullshit.
The thing is, I don't even care that it's a harem, or that it's a show about making a dating sim where the guy who wants to make it brings nothing to the table other than the fact that he has a penis that all the girls want to sit on. It's that shows like this just don't earn these kinds of moments:
Hey director/writer! YOU ARE NOT FUNNY. YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THE SHITTY WRITING OF YOUR SHOW JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE NERD AUDIENCE WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP.
When I seethe about the death of nerd culture, this is what I'm talking about, where the very media we consume isn't merely a reflection of our sycophantic desires, but an actual representation of it. Saekano is a show that keeps trying to remind me that I'm a part of this "insidery" group in an effort to get me to identify with the characters or at least the situations that the characters find themselves in, and all it does it make hate everyone involved... including myself.
Of course, I do have a problem with how useless MC guy is, though. I know this is terrible harem, but with girls as accomplished as two of the main girls are, there is no possible reason that they would like a guy as useless as the MC is. But of course, it's apparently much easier to make an anime about an awful harem game being made within an awful harem series than it would be to make something actually competent. That doesn't excuse how incredibly bad this stuff is at all, though.
Eh, the otaku husband anime is decent, but manga bookstore series seemed awful from what I saw of it (two terrible episodes)...
SAO is far, far worse than anything else being mentioned here, they're not on the same level at all, but that otaku-bookstore show was NOT good.
UltraGunner
Banned
Animator Expo 11 - Power Plant No. 33
Not as interesting as the previous shorts. I do like how they were able to deliver a message to the audience (our over reliance on technology is bad) effectively within a short timespan, but overall nothing interesting happened. The Robot and Kaiju trade two punches, and 70% of their fight is spent winding up said punches. I do think that that is some impressive cgi on the robot and kaiju though.
Not as interesting as the previous shorts. I do like how they were able to deliver a message to the audience (our over reliance on technology is bad) effectively within a short timespan, but overall nothing interesting happened. The Robot and Kaiju trade two punches, and 70% of their fight is spent winding up said punches. I do think that that is some impressive cgi on the robot and kaiju though.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, S5 is trash (that Orange is the New Black ripoff) but I don't disagree. lol
I only watched the first episode of both, but they had the touch of the "we're nerds just like you!" sickness that Saekano has.
danna ga is a legit great short series (which i also foolishly dismissed after the first ep) and denki-gai is a decent adaptation of a much better workplace romcom manga. the later is still way better than tripe like sao + saekano tho!
I just found like most comedy shorts the married on terribly unfunny. As bad as the werewolf detective show. Much better is the Spotted Flower manga.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Don't get me wrong, I hate SAO for completely different reasons than I hate Saekano!
The lampshade is a move that you can only use if you earn it. For example, you can't tell me how lame your "take my wife" joke is unless you've already made me laugh with a much better joke. It's why I'm fine with something like Sabagebu has the narrator that basically explains the joke to you, but when it's used just to excuse a flaw, it is just garbage.
A Black Falcon
Member
True. And perhaps similarly, I think it's really stupid when a series such as this one or TWOGK has characters that talk about the "2d" world as if they are '3D", but then has these "3D" people act EXACTLY the same as the 2d ones! The girls are equally obsessed with MC guy for no reason, etc. There is no "3d" world in these shows, which makes it so much stupider when the characters talk as if their world is different from the one they're referencing.
That is a major part of why this kind of thing makes the harem element of these shows worse and even harder than usual to believe, something I said some other reasons for disliking in the paragraph I added to my last post.
But yes, something like Sabagebu is great. I liked that show a lot, would watch more for sure!
yami was too yuri for sdburton. No way Upotte could top it.
Thats a great problem to have.
AquaWateria
Member
How's your impression of the series so far?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Stole this from another site, pretty neat though.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Gonna be the Twintails! Episode 12
You'll always be Solar in my heart. <3
You'll always be Solar in my heart. <3
There better be a season 2.
No, it really isn't. Maybe for you, but you're super special in your anime habits compared to... well, pretty much anyone else I know of.
Almost all the "main" stuff I'm eyeing for Spring are sequels, too. How the hell does that even happen?
Gonna be the Twintails! Episode 12
You'll always be Solar in my heart. <3
There better be a season 2.
You totally fell in love with this show hehee.
i dont blame you though!
Lee Chaolan
Member
More like fell in love with Solar ;o
Although yes, I figured I'd love the show. Any idea how well it did? Would love to see a new season, and would love to get some figures of Tailred like we've seen in the show! lol.
I definitely enjoy it a lot. Gotta good comedy mixed in with a handful of sweet moments. Wondering how they're gonna pull off the ending though. I can't imagine he's going to stay there permanently and put calligraphy to the side for good. If he does indeed leave like I expect him to, I just wonder what they'll do with Naru.
ThatChairMan
Member
Saekano 03
It's
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