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Wkd BO 0602-0417 - Amazon princess crowned box office Queen and saves DCEU
- Thread starter xaosslug
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Man of Steel's first Monday was $12.6M, but Man of Steel had horrible weekday holds after that (dropping to $7M by Thursday).
Given the different trajectories, I think it's safe to say WW won't track similarly this week. And yeah, that's a great hold.
Wow, MoS's second Friday was the same as it's first Monday. You weren't kidding.
btw, on Infinity War, I was thinking about how the Marvel movies can't do serious, as a result of our 'Black Widow could work' (it can't) discussion in the previous thread, and almost every time the MCU tries to do 'serious' its downright awkward to the point of being unintentionally hilarious. That relationship talk in Age of Ultron was 'wait are they doing this? oh god they're doing this' material. I believe similar complaints exist toward the Jessica Jones and other Marvel tv shows as well.
So I'm really starting to wonder if Infinity War, which is apparently this deep dark jump into the abyss as far as Marvel goes, won't basically be the best worst unintentional comedy of all time when it goes all 'and here's a joke' and then some character violently dies or whatever.
Considering how extremely poorly the previous movies have dealt with it, I don't think they're suddenly going to 'get it' with that one.
Ironically, what the MCU needs, is a healthy dose of Zack Snyder.
This can't be a serious post, especially that last line 😂
PhoncipleBone
Banned
MoS had a harsh second weekend drop, but then stabilized after that.Given the different trajectories, I think it's safe to say WW won't track similarly this week. And yeah, that's a great hold.
Wow, MoS's second Friday was the same as it's first Monday. You weren't kidding.
Deadline has an updated Monday number of $11.7M for Wonder Woman. The Actual should be fairly close to that. They report that 50% of K-12 schools are out.
For 2 weekends. The second of which was a holiday weekend. After that was 3 consecutive high 50s-low 60s drops that killed the $300M domestic dream dead.
EDIT:
Deadline also had this to say:
However, I wouldn't read into that too much, since Wonder Woman was also the fourth biggest live action opening weekend in June. Age of Extinction and Harry Potter 3 were the only other live action films to crack $70M opening weekend in June.
MoS had a harsh second weekend drop, but then stabilized after that.
For 2 weekends. The second of which was a holiday weekend. After that was 3 consecutive high 50s-low 60s drops that killed the $300M domestic dream dead.
EDIT:
Deadline also had this to say:
Among all live-action features in June, Wonder Woman owns the fourth best Monday after Jurassic World ($25.3M), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen ($14.9M) and Man of Steel ($12.6M).
However, I wouldn't read into that too much, since Wonder Woman was also the fourth biggest live action opening weekend in June. Age of Extinction and Harry Potter 3 were the only other live action films to crack $70M opening weekend in June.
Roland_Gunner
Member
Per THR, industry expectations are that Wonder Woman will hold up very well next weekend and may come in above $50M. Wondy appears to be dragging down the Mummy as it has been downgraded from $40M to $35M.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...mmy-mortal-danger-losing-wonder-woman-1010543
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...mmy-mortal-danger-losing-wonder-woman-1010543
Per THR, industry expectations are that Wonder Woman will hold up very well next weekend and may come in above $50M. Wondy appears to be dragging down the Mummy as it has been downgraded from $40M to $35M.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...mmy-mortal-danger-losing-wonder-woman-1010543
WW dragging down the Mummy or simply a lack of interest?
BothWW dragging down the Mummy or simply a lack of interest?
WW dragging down the Mummy or simply a lack of interest?
Probably a bit of both.
So assuming hopefully WW gets around 50 million this coming weekend. I'm going to guess maybe 180-190 domestic?
Wonder Woman might be over $200m following the weekend, decent shot at $50m+ I think.I can't believe how well the calendar worked out for WB/DC here.
MoS had WWZ and Monsters U combining for almost $150m in it's 2nd weekend. That was a pretty nice June at the box office.
MoS had a harsh second weekend drop, but then stabilized after that.
MoS had WWZ and Monsters U combining for almost $150m in it's 2nd weekend. That was a pretty nice June at the box office.
Probably a bit of both.
So assuming hopefully WW gets around 50 million this coming weekend. I'm going to guess maybe 180-190 domestic?
looks like lifetime might get close to 250 million.
looks like lifetime might get close to 250 million.
If the second week drop really is only 50% and it will be at around 200M after the weekend, then at least 300M are a lock in my opinion, possibly even a bit more.
Wonder Woman might be over $200m following the weekend, decent shot at $50m+ I think.I can't believe how well the calendar worked out for WB/DC here.
MoS had WWZ and Monsters U combining for almost $150m in it's 2nd weekend. That was a pretty nice June at the box office.
Some of this will depend on whether Wonder Woman's Monday had more spill-over business from Sunday than is typical. If it did, we'll get a lower Tuesday increase, which will affect Wed/Thurs holds.
Just using Rough Numbers for now:
Monday: $11.7M
Tuesday: $14.0M (+20%)
Wednesday: $9.8M (-30%)
Thursday: $9.3M (-5%)
Total as of Thursday = $148.2M
$200M by Sunday will require a $51.8M second weekend, which would be a -49.9% drop. 44% without the Thursday previews.
It will be close, but I don't think a sub 50% drop is necessarily a given.
EDIT: And that's assuming that I am not being too generous with the daily drops above, which might be the case. Wednesday could be down closer to 35% and Thursday 10% for instance.
Man of Steel's first Monday was $12.6M, but Man of Steel had horrible weekday holds after that (dropping to $7M by Thursday).
That first Man of Steel's Monday followed Father's Day, did it help to reach $12.6M ?
BronsonLee
Member
Happy Father's Day! Sit there and watch your father be brutally killed by a natural disaster
That first Man of Steel's Monday followed Father's Day, did it help to reach $12.6M ?
Probably not. The Monday drop was steeper than typical in June, compensating for the inflated Sunday.
Here's a list of films that opened over $100M domestically, and had drops under 50% without extenuating circumstances (Holidays mostly. Father's day in the case of Jurassic World)
Spider-Man
Iron Man 1 (still a sub 50% drop with the $3.5M Thursday preview lumped into the OW)
Alice in Wonderland
Toy Story 3
The Jungle Book
Finding Dory
Beauty and the Beast
Shrek 2 would have easily been there without the holiday help. No for most (if not all) of the others.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Watch Universal blame The Mummy's underperformance on the female Mummy (the antagonist) while being beaten by a female superhero and shit.WW dragging down the Mummy or simply a lack of interest?
Watch Universal blame The Mummy's underperformance on the female Mummy (the antagonist) while being beaten by a female superhero and shit.
"Exit polls suggest that audiences prefer living women to dead women"
Even with how bad BvS and Suicide Squad are, I think that still might be the worst scene in all of the DCEU.Happy Father's Day! Sit there and watch your father be brutally killed by a natural disaster
NealMcCauley
Member
Anecdotal but the local IMAX shows of Mummy are not selling at all. Currently 19 tickets total for the entire weekend. GitS sold more advance tickets at this point.
Watch Universal blame The Mummy's underperformance on the female Mummy (the antagonist) while being beaten by a female superhero and shit.
Incredible"Exit polls suggest that audiences prefer living women to dead women"
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Even with how bad BvS and Suicide Squad are, I think that still might be the worst scene in all of the DCEU.
I am a fan of MoS but for two things.
Pa Kent (and particularly that scene) and the OOT destruction at the end of the movie.
But no, the worst scene in the DCEU is [Suicide Squad]
Amanda Waller going full villain and pointlessly killing her own staff.
Watched WW yesterday, and despite not being totally sold on the third act, I really enjoyed it and I hope it keeps doing amazing numbers as it really deserves them.
Also, one of the trailers shown was The Mummy, and it had the words "Witness the beginning of the Dark Universe" and I couldn't stop laughing.
Also, one of the trailers shown was The Mummy, and it had the words "Witness the beginning of the Dark Universe" and I couldn't stop laughing.
WW with a sub 50% drop its 2nd weekend. Yup
the legs!
mummy ain't doing shit!
The Mummy did $6.6M on opening day in Cruiseland aka Korea. A record for that territory.
http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-mummy-tom-cruise-south-korea-1202108458/
http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-mummy-tom-cruise-south-korea-1202108458/
The Mummy did $6.6M on opening day in Cruiseland aka Korea. A record for that territory.
http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-mummy-tom-cruise-south-korea-1202108458/
Man I didn't realize how much they love the Cruise Missile.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
WW will finally get my 8 tomorrow. Can't wait.
Damn.
The Mummy did $6.6M on opening day in Cruiseland aka Korea. A record for that territory.
http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-mummy-tom-cruise-south-korea-1202108458/
Damn.
Presales in China for The Mummy are also looking good. I'd say a $75M+ gross there would be on the conservative side of things, but it's hard to be certain with June being such a busy month.
The Mummy could easily end up being one of those $75M domestic, $400M worldwide films. Any news on when reviews hit?
The Mummy could easily end up being one of those $75M domestic, $400M worldwide films. Any news on when reviews hit?
LFMartins86
Member
Thursday, I think.Presales in China for The Mummy are also looking good. I'd say a $75M+ gross there would be on the conservative side of things, but it's hard to be certain with June being such a busy month.
The Mummy could easily end up being one of those $75M domestic, $400M worldwide films. Any news on when reviews hit?
Presales in China for The Mummy are also looking good. I'd say a $75M+ gross there would be on the conservative side of things, but it's hard to be certain with June being such a busy month.
The Mummy could easily end up being one of those $75M domestic, $400M worldwide films. Any news on when reviews hit?
Looking around the Twitter-o-sphere folks are saying Thurs, which is odd if already being released in some markets and know screenings are happening
MHWilliams
Member
I do feel like we should be coming to the end of Thor, cap and iron Man's story in MCU.
We likely are. Their contracts will only get more expensive with each additional film. RDJ is already crazy expensive.
The Mummy did $6.6M on opening day in Cruiseland aka Korea. A record for that territory.
http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-mummy-tom-cruise-south-korea-1202108458/
Maybe we're underestimating the Cruise Missile? At least in international gross. I can't see the film doing that well domestically.
LFMartins86
Member
Not really, if they don't have much trust on it, they will try and keep a lid on it has far as they can.Looking around the Twitter-o-sphere folks are saying Thurs, which is odd if already being released in some markets and know screenings are happening
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I'm not sure how the Mummy will do in the UK but they have been advertising the fuck out of it for months here
every time I've gone to the cinema and theyve played the trailer the people who I've been with have said they think it looks good
every time I've gone to the cinema and theyve played the trailer the people who I've been with have said they think it looks good
It's almost like they don't know what they're doing.I can't believe that Universal is waiting for Thursday to get reviews out there for the Mummy.
This is supposed to launch their cinematic universe.
I do feel like we should be coming to the end of Thor, cap and iron Man's story in MCU.
I will be sad to see Evans and Hemsworth leave, but I don't mind RJD going. Aside from the ending of Civil War, he's been on autopilot since the first IM.
OrangeAtlas
Member
To be fair the DCEU started off with a movie at 55%, and it took them 4 years to rise above that.
Even then I expect The Mummy to get about half that, but even a Cruise underpeformer is substantially higher than most other films.
Even then I expect The Mummy to get about half that, but even a Cruise underpeformer is substantially higher than most other films.
To be fair the DCEU started off with a movie at 55%, and it took them 4 years to rise above that.
Even then I expect The Mummy to get about half that, but even a Cruise underpeformer is substantially higher than most other films.
Batman and Superman are some of the most perpetually popular IPs on the planet.
The 90s/early 00s Mummy films were popular, but no one really cares about any of the Universal monster properties. This isn't a situation where they can coast on fandom while they figure things out.
Batman and Superman are some of the most perpetually popular IPs on the planet.
The 90s/early 00s Mummy films were popular, but no one really cares about any of the Universal monster properties. This isn't a situation where they can coast on fandom while they figure things out.
Has Cruise even hit the chat show circuit yet? That's like 90% of his films marketing.
OrangeAtlas
Member
Batman and Superman are some of the most perpetually popular IPs on the planet.
The 90s/early 00s Mummy films were popular, but no one really cares about any of the Universal monster properties. This isn't a situation where they can coast on fandom while they figure things out.
The Mummy and Tom Cruise is probably the smartest thing they can do to kick off this universe (and quality, but that doesn't seem to be happening with this one).
If only they'd scaled back the budgets, then a moderate success would be sufficient. I've been mentioning Dark Universe to some friends and they look at me like I'm crazy.
The Mummy and Tom Cruise is probably the smartest thing they can do to kick off this universe (and quality, but that doesn't seem to be happening with this one).
If only they'd scaled back the budgets, then a moderate success would be sufficient. I've been mentioning Dark Universe to some friends and they look at me like I'm crazy.
I honestly expect the movie to be good. I'm just not hype to see it and I'm just not seeing any hype here in the states for it period.
Like I feel if I watched this on Netflix I'd enjoy it, but I don't think I'm going to waste any money seeing this in theaters. Hell if anything I'm going to see WW again this weekend.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Maybe we're underestimating the Cruise Missile? At least in international gross. I can't see the film doing that well domestically.
neh, they're appealing HARD to the various Asian audiences with that movie, that much was readily apparent from trailers and all. Not to say that Cruise isn't a legit entertaining actor, but this a Kurtzman & Orci movie. It must die, for justice.
Domestic will probably be a dud (estimated currently at sub-100 total run), but China will probably literally save it. To be fair, this might actually be their first entry into this century running remake, so that's not really their fault. For their sake, they better fucking enjoy it if it's going to be a series.
Who knows, maybe it might actually be enjoyable. Then again, Crowe was also the world's greatest TomTom in Man of Steel (it actually works!), so having him in there doesn't immediately inspire confidence, I'm afraid (he's fantastic in The Nice Guys though).
I mean, it does have some talent in it.... so I can't discount it entirely.
Has Cruise even hit the chat show circuit yet? That's like 90% of his films marketing.
He was doing UK chat shows last week.
OrangeAtlas
Member
I honestly expect the movie to be good. I'm just not hype to see it and I'm just not seeing any hype here in the states for it period.
Like I feel if I watched this on Netflix I'd enjoy it, but I don't think I'm going to waste any money seeing this in theaters. Hell if anything I'm going to see WW again this weekend.
Honestly the thing that's getting me really excited to see it in theaters is that smooth 1:45 minute runtime. I can't remember the last time I saw a sub-2 hour long action movie in theaters, so hopefully that means if it's at least entertaining it won't overstay its welcome.
Obliterator
Member
The Mummy did $6.6M on opening day in Cruiseland aka Korea. A record for that territory.
http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-mummy-tom-cruise-south-korea-1202108458/
It's crazy how much star power Cruise still has on the international scene.