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Wkd Box Office 0522-2415 - Disney's house is clean, Tomorrow lands @ #1
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Messofanego
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Fair enough, but from watching the trailers I don't see where it's just for kids? The trailers don't seem to be kid-friendly. Ominous music, gunshots, violence, dismemberment and disintegration of human looking robots, barely any jokes, that's now how kid-aimed movies are advertised as in my experience. Seems more like young adult marketing or like the same for Avengers movies.
The Marvel movies are basically the definition of not reinventing the genre, so I don't think that's necessarily the gauge for what's going to hit or not.
To be fair, I didn't say it was just for kids; only that it was aimed at them. That being said, ads like this one are very specifically going after kids, and many of the other ads that are a bit more inclusive aren't really showing anything that's too intense for kids, as well as putting "the director of The Incredibles" at the forefront of the talent advertisement, even before Clooney. I had not heard of the robots being ripped apart, but that hasn't been something they've been showing on TV over here.
Can Crusher
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Actually I would say Marvel movies did exactly that, they revolutionized comic book movies and they are still reaping the rewards from it. It's not by chance that every studio and their mother want a shared universe.
I dont think the average movie goer even knows what is happening in the shared universe and what the stones are for. They just see super heroes fighting together and get excited. It is so terribly put together and convoluted that no one cares.
I guess it depends on what angle you look at it. Seems to me that the shorthand people use to talk about these movies is pretty accurate ("Guardians is like a space opera superhero movie," "The Winter Soldier is like a political thriller superhero movie.") so that each individual movie is proudly derivative, but the Marvel movies as a whole are, in a sense, uniquely genre-bending, as a result of the necessity of differentiating each sub-brand in the franchise.
I don't know if I would attribute Marvel's success to cinematic innovation except in a pretty limited sense.
So I think I agree and disagree with you.
If only their takeaway from John Carter and The Lone Ranger was "Less white men".
Obliterator
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Talk about being out of touch with actual audiences and reality
The lash back on GAF from some people to this film borders on delusional. The movie is at 1.2 BILLION Worldwide
It's not a very good movie though ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Obliterator
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It's not a very good movie though ¯_(ツ
Whether someone like it or not who cares?
The actual business analysis of its box office by some people is just not grounded in reality
Christopher
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Discotheque
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damn shame about lone ranger. despite the movie's flaws it's all easily worth it for that last 20 minutes which was like a love letter to the silent era action/comedies and westerns. the train scene was so good.
after this tomorrowland bomba disney is forever going to be marvel/star wars/live action fairytale
I hope this mad max underperformance (and jupiter ascending and edge of tomorrow bomba) don't convince WB to stay on the safe route too
after this tomorrowland bomba disney is forever going to be marvel/star wars/live action fairytale
I hope this mad max underperformance (and jupiter ascending and edge of tomorrow bomba) don't convince WB to stay on the safe route too
International 5th weekend excluding China:
Furious 7: $720 million
Age of Ultron: $650 million
China 13 days:
Furious 7: $298 million
Age of Ultron: $210 million
Domestic 4th weekend:
Age of Ultron: $404 million
Furious 7: $320 million
Adding all:
Furious 7: $1.338 billion
Age of Ultron: $1.264 billion
It's over. The age of Marvel is done. The Avengers lost to La Familia.
Difference increased a lot from last weekend's $13 million.
Furious 7: $720 million
Age of Ultron: $650 million
China 13 days:
Furious 7: $298 million
Age of Ultron: $210 million
Domestic 4th weekend:
Age of Ultron: $404 million
Furious 7: $320 million
Adding all:
Furious 7: $1.338 billion
Age of Ultron: $1.264 billion
It's over. The age of Marvel is done. The Avengers lost to La Familia.
Difference increased a lot from last weekend's $13 million.
Star Wars gonna lose too.
pixelation
Member
John Carter and The Lone Ranger are legit good though.
I wish someone would upload it to YouTube already, though.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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John Carter isn't legit good.
Liking this analogy.
pixelation
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*tear*
Christopher
Member
Lone Ranger is good John Carter is not
after this tomorrowland bomba disney is forever going to be marvel/star wars/live action fairytale
Thanks Lindelof!
If Star Wars doesn't end up breaking the $1.5B barrier, this will be the second year in a row that China decided the worldwide crown. AoU minus China will be higher than Furious 7 minus China. The same was true last year of Battle of the Five Armies and Transformers 4.
Messofanego
Banned
Isn't Rango a better western, and that's Verbinski too?
I liked Jon carter but fuck Lone ranger that shit was bad.
pixelation
Member
John Carter was shit. Lone Ranger had one of the best finales in a long time.
And Furious 7. The Real Avengers. -_-
Christopher
Member
Marvel basically paid for itself from Disney acquisition no? That's just from the films too...I'm not even talking about the comics, toys, merchandise, video games ect...
They really turned that brand around - if Star Wars reaches that kind of revenue then it paid for itself.
They really turned that brand around - if Star Wars reaches that kind of revenue then it paid for itself.
Marvel is in a different much better state than they were 15-20 years ago.
Star Wars might have the same turn around but I don't think they were hurting as much as Marvel.
BattleMonkey
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Disney is going to make more off Star Wars merch than it will off any of the movies.
Doctor Decimate
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So can we finally be done with the whole "LEARN ABOUT THE MYSTERIOUS THING" marketing tactic yet?
Star Wars was never in any sort of trouble. Lucas just wanted to retire from managing the series so that he could focus on other things. I don't think there was ever any doubt that the Star Wars purchase would pay for itself. Episode 7 will do over $5B in revenue when you add the box office to the merchandising and other media tie-ins.
You're a DC fan, aren't you?
Hope Tomorrow succeed, because I really enjoyed it. It really felt like 90s Disney movie with charming heroes and loveable cast of characters. The writing is very weak until you realise its a kids a movie, and I have to say, I really enjoyed it even more than many Kids movie such as Hugo.
The visuals were amazing and the action set-pieces were really Brad Bird.
Loved it!
The visuals were amazing and the action set-pieces were really Brad Bird.
Loved it!
xaosslug
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lol, what? You have to be kidding.
Maybe he/she is just a fan of good movies?
Are you telling me the general population has seen every marvel movie and knows what each stone does. Of course both of us are just guessing but I bet if someone stopped some movie goers outside the theater and asked them about Hydra and Shield or these stones they would not have a clue. Going by
the horrible magic pool sequence
A lot of people on the internet seem to think everyone other than themselves and like minded individuals are brain-dead idiots.
I've watched all marvel movies and even i dont know what all the stones do. i know one is for like omniscience or something like that.
I liked John Carter
There you go. Anecdotal evidence in my case suggests the same. They just want all these super heroes to come together and kick some ass.
ryutaro's mama
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Yeah, I see it all the time. "You like what I don't so you are stinkyhead!"
It gets old.
Relax ryutaro's mama. You rock. I never called anyone personally stinkyhead at all.
I dont see much hope for the movie but I really hope It has long legs.
I'm a Marvel fan actually, not a Marvel Studio fan. These movies are wasting great characters.
His death was a huge reason for the turnout in China though. Chinese people love Paul walker for some reason. Even before he died he was pretty big here. When fast 6 was here all the girls were posting his photos on wechat and other apps, when he died girls were all posting themselves crying or rip Paul tributes. I am confident in saying that his death contributed to a lot of the box office draw in China. Anyone know what fast 6 BO total in China was for comparison?
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