Then why greenlight it, or rather finshed it?
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Then why greenlight it, or rather finshed it?
I'm sure it was dogshit only after it had been filmed originally. Cameron Crowe is a generally bankable director who primarily makes feel-good films, and it had a pretty hot cast in terms of exposure right now. It looked good on paper.
They even (?) spoiled the death of you know who.
It was great
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Not a whole a lot of marketing budget have been spent on it, right?
Looks like Mad Max is around $280 million now, so yeah it be fine it seems.
Tomorrowland seems to have a bit of legs in foreign particularly, but bleh, what a shame. I still a bit amaze of how much they spent on marketing, which in the end was kind of crappy to say the least heh.
Tomorrowland seems to have a bit of legs in foreign particularly, but bleh, what a shame. I still a bit amaze of how much they spent on marketing, which in the end was kind of crappy to say the least heh.
Insane Metal
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Mad Max is at 280mil?? Damn, I'm so happy. Also, nice for San Andrea. I'll see it this week.
Discotheque
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Nobody, let it die with him. Much like terminator should have with cameron's absence
ViewtifulJC
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At least Cameron getting the Terminator rights back in a few years
gon make dat comeback like Miller's Fury Road and D'Angelo's Black Messiah
gon make dat comeback like Miller's Fury Road and D'Angelo's Black Messiah
Discotheque
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he should blue the fuck out of the real terminator 3: future war when he gets the rights back.
2 hours of stuff like this
BertramCooper
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That image was my favorite moment in the entire movie! I want a poster of ithe should blue the fuck out of the real terminator 3: future war when he gets the rights back.
2 hours of stuff like this
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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Nathan Jones doesn't have the appeal The Rock has.
ViewtifulJC
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the saddest e-mail ever
Charles Foster Kane
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Man this whole Crowe deal is sad.
I loved Almost Famous so much back then.
I loved Almost Famous so much back then.
TheKaeptain
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Marvel has their own marketing department.
This is a movie about giant people standing around looking baked while Kamen Rider kicks ass, right?
Say Anything, Singles, and Almost Famous are great movies. And Jerry Maguire will forever be known because of "Show me the money!" It's crazy how his career was never the same after Elizabethtown.
It's because everyone minus Piven and maybe Connolly has no career outside of the show.
I'm looking forward to the movie, fuck the haters.
Ninja Scooter
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I see him exec-producing or even directing some Netflix or network series in the near future.
For a movie with a supposed $30 million budget, it would be pretty dire if it couldn't reach profit!
Though I do wonder how much appeal the movie will have since it's not like the TV Show ever did massive numbers and even people who watched all of it (like me) probably found the series to be not very good in the later seasons.
Did Elizabethtown really tank his career?
PhoncipleBone
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He should do a music interview series. Just him sitting down with huge artists talking about their careers. I would watch the shit out of that.
excelsiorlef
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I'll never not love Elizabethtown but I fully admit it's because the soundtracks are so damn good, some of the best I've ever heard.
MrCunningham
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What's wrong with Disney marketing?
Oh yeah
With all of the artists employed at both Marvel and Disney, you'd think they would have someone on hand to make a decent looking movie poster.
That Ant-Man poster is generic but generic can work. Plus there's cool promos like the tiny Ant-Man bus stop sign, or the big white poster with the shrunken Ant-Man in the middle. As for Marvel as a whole I think Guardians of the Galaxy was the best simply because of the fun Forrest Gump-ish soundtrack (and they embraced the crazy Rocket Raccoon character), Ant-Man needs to be more like that so they can get the new and old "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" audience
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Thanks. I was pretty sure they did.
People just assume that because Disney owns something, Disney makes all the decisions, and it gets so pervasive that I start to question whether or not there actually is something to it.
But there isn't. It's just people talking shit for the sake of talking it. Like it gives them some semblance of pleasure to put forth the idea it's really Disney pulling every string instead of giving credit (and/or blame) to the company they know is actually making/selling the movie.
Although I'm sure there were people blaming Disney for Miramax and Dimension trailers back when they still owned that studio, too.
"Man, can you imagine if Disney wasn't cutting these Kill Bill trailers?"
It's like the thread people are not reading contains the answers to the questions they're asking.
Vanilla Sky is really good too. Kurt Russell is excellent, Jason Lee's better, and it's fascinating how many possible theories you can have for what the film is.
But a correct one? I doubt it. There are no recent pg-13 films I'm aware of that deserve an r-rating more than fury road.
The mpaa has definitely lost their way, but under the current system fury road should be r-rated. 20 years ago? PG-13, I suspect. If the current rating system wasn't broken? PG-13.
Ppl seem to forget that a pg-13 cut of this film exists. It is different enough to have tested significantly worse. FR has a number of violent sequences that perhaps individually would not get an r-rating but collectively would (and did). It could also have gotten it for "mature themes". Also...blood when shot. Mostly subtle, but frequency is key. Pg-13 can only get away with it a few times per film.
Discotheque
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vanilla sky ending is beautiful. cameron crowe left the building after that movie imo.
Yes, it was the start of his slow motion collapse. It cost a fortune and was written for Tom Cruise who passed early on. The studio went with Orlando Bloom, a move that killed his acting career stone dead and left Crowe on the outside of the studio system for years.
Also Elizabethtown is the worst cinema experience I've ever had. It was torture to sit through and people were constantly walking out of my screening swearing as they went.
In one frame Kirsten Dunst's weird grinning mug filled the screen and someone walking out shouted 'fuck you!' at her image on the screen which got the biggest laugh of the entire affair.
Terrible.
*sharp intake of breath*
Yes and no. They are corporate 'silos' and regularly co-ordinate with each other in terms of releasing and the projects that they make so that there's no 'overlap' in terms of their slate.
I don't feel that 'very independent' reflects that.
BronsonLee
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Sometimes I wonder what the fastest way to piss off Busty is.
I'm assuming it involves *rolls D20 dice*...Harry Potter?
I'm assuming it involves *rolls D20 dice*...Harry Potter?
Psst.
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Disney just cramming Star Wars films down our throats until the end of time.
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Paramount being totally out of ideas and just cramming Transformer films down our throats until the end of time.
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Sony Pictures being totally out of ideas and just cramming Spider Man reboots down our throats until the end of time. And I think their Spidey shared universe' is just a matter of when not if.
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James Cameron wasting his time and talent on a bunch of Avatar films that no one asked for. I don't think it's the money, I just have a sneaking feeling that he's grown tired of filmmaking and doesn't have the passion for it anymore.
That's...., just the tip of the iceberg to be honest.
BronsonLee
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So a lot of throat cramming, got it
So tired of the same damn franchises
y'know, I usually eat up trailers for movies I'm excited about, but Disney released so many trailers and teasers and clips and shit that I had to go out of my way to stop watching them because I felt like I'd have seen the entire movie before entering the theater. It got ridiculous.
(And then they cut a good portion of that shit out of the final film!)
Banjotanooki
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Notable for being the first film that Dreamworks produced and released.
teruterubozu
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It's also the movie that brought on "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" as a tired trope.
Nothing has been right with Crowe since his marriage with Nancy Wilson fell apart.
She was his muse.
PR only got a sequel because Universal is desperate for anything that could have a chance of being turned into a franchise. WB, the original studio behind it, had no interest in making it.
BattleMonkey
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PR only got a sequel because Universal is desperate for anything that could have a chance of being turned into a franchise. WB, the original studio behind it, had no interest in making it.
PR also has lot of merch possibilities they learned. After they screwed up by not having merch ready for PR and seeing the demand for it. The early stuff they put out was selling out left and right, licensors started going in for merchandising hardcore after. They know they can make it into a multimedia money maker for the nerds
rokkerkory
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I just saw Mad Max... man what a ride. It was fantastic if you like gritty action. Very surprised by the amount of varied action you can have in a 2 hour car chase.
That's an interesting point actually, I never thought of that. I'm quietly hoping that this new Showtime series he's working on can help him reclaim so magic.
If it's just 20% of Almost Famous on a weekly basis that will be a big win for me.
PR only got a sequel because Legendary is desperate for anything that could have a chance of being turned into a franchise. WB, the original studio behind it, had no interest in making it.
Fixed.
And yes, you're totally correct. I don't think that Universal, the new studio, are even putting any finance into it.
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