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Leak?
Dawn $200m US/$509m WW
Rise $176m US/$481m WW
Rise had a smaller budget though so in the end I think it will make more, but I think the fact the sequel did the same business is good news for the franchise.
It will also help merchandising since NECA is pushing two lines currently of PoTA toys
alfredofroylan
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Movie was leaked 3 weeks before release
http://variety.com/2014/digital/new...wnloaded-189000-times-in-24-hours-1201268947/
Was leaked three weeks early I believe. Stallone will use the pirate excuse.
Dawn still has China and Japan to open in. Those two will likely add another 80m minimum.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, I was speaking more to the fact the budget (and marketing) was higher, but the money coming in was the same. FOX was hoping for more money than they got, I think.
Whereas both Guardians & Turtles overperformed, and are still doing so. So people are going to focus on that as a bigger "win" when it comes to discussing the summer as a whole.
Don't get me wrong - Apes making 200mil domestic is good. I like that there's a solid audience for that series. I just don't see Apes being part of the main narrative about the Summer beyond "The Apes movie did well, too" and that's it.
The big stories will likely be:
Nobody had any legs
Michael Bay finally stumbled a little
Guardian & Turtles were big wins
Lesser stories:
Why can't anyone fucking sell "Edge of Tomorrow" correctly
X-Men returned to prominence
Colonel Nasty
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Guardians, 14 days in, has already beaten Spider-mans domestic take.
Guardians is going to be the top Superhero film of the year domestically. It will pass Days of Future Past before next weekend and Cap 2 in the next 15 days.
This was the last weekend of the summer with a decent chance of a new $25M opener.
Bobby Roberts
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ehhhhhh
is it really a superhero film tho
is it really a superhero film tho
I'd add Grand Budapest making $170m to the lesser stories. That's by far Wes Anderson's most successful film. I'm also keen to see how much Lucy brings in worldwide.
Bobby Roberts
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Great call on both counts. Grand Budapest has been taking up prime space in Portland's second run/art house theaters since its release, and the number of screenings hasn't dropped, either. It's maybe the only decent example of anything having legs this year - although it's a quiet, scaled-down example.
Got a free viewing of TMNT thanks to a friend of mine.
I tried to like it given how much I like the Turtles, but the Turtles themselves were the only redeeming quality of the movie. At the very least, both it & Guardians are doing well financially. And GotG may end up passing Transformers domestically.
I tried to like it given how much I like the Turtles, but the Turtles themselves were the only redeeming quality of the movie. At the very least, both it & Guardians are doing well financially. And GotG may end up passing Transformers domestically.
BronsonLee
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Phoenician_Viking
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Weekend Projections
1. Ninja Turtles - $26 million
2. Guardians - $24 million
3. Let's Be Cops - $17 million
4. Expendables 3 - $16 million
5. The Giver - $12 million
Weekend Projections
1. Ninja Turtles - $26 million
2. Guardians - $24 million
3. Let's Be Cops - $17 million
4. Expendables 3 - $16 million
5. The Giver - $12 million
GotG has a 100 percent chance of passing Age of Extinction domestically.
Bobby Roberts
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The leak is going to be the scapegoat, no doubt, but we're also pretty far beyond at time where the argument that piracy hurts success has too many teeth left, too.
Basically - if the prospect of the movie had really excited anyone, they still would have gone. And if it had been good, those who DID steal it probably would have turned up at the box-office.
The leak is going to get blamed, but I'm pretty confident even if the film HADN'T been leaked, it wouuld have been similar numbers. People are tired of Stallone's chest-thumping geriatric badass bullshit.
Basically - if the prospect of the movie had really excited anyone, they still would have gone. And if it had been good, those who DID steal it probably would have turned up at the box-office.
The leak is going to get blamed, but I'm pretty confident even if the film HADN'T been leaked, it wouuld have been similar numbers. People are tired of Stallone's chest-thumping geriatric badass bullshit.
Dragonborn
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How bad was Megan Fox in it? Is it not bad enough that I may be able to ignore her?
Hopefully that's the case. Foreign is another story, though. Transformers already has China by the balls, so it may be difficult.
I'm one of those people who has been self-trained in the art of tuning out Megan Fox. It wasn't that hard for me to do so here, so you may be fine.
About time.
China pandering worked!
Gee I wonder where the next movie will take place.
Agreed. Look at X-Men Origins. A workprint leaked a month before the release and it was still a success.
Despite the "story" falling into place around her character, you don't need to really remember much of what she is saying.
Dragonborn
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PhoncipleBone
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Transformers foreign take alone is more than most other films worldwide total. It has the WW record on lockdown right now.
But yeah, I will give TMNT points for the personalities of the Turtles. It was enough for me to look past their overly-busy, gigantic designs.
Granted, I got in free, but it's the kind of movie you see at discount after you've had your fill of the other good movies that are out. Which reminds me, my local Studio Movie Grill may have another showing of Apes (& I'm starving). Even if it's not there, I can just go see Guardians, again.
Granted, I got in free, but it's the kind of movie you see at discount after you've had your fill of the other good movies that are out. Which reminds me, my local Studio Movie Grill may have another showing of Apes (& I'm starving). Even if it's not there, I can just go see Guardians, again.
You can't ignore the first 20 minutes, which are entirely about Megan Fox's character.
She is, you know, her usual self. Charmless, no charisma, no personality, dead inside. She will make her usual doe-eyed expression at the camera every now and then. If you go in knowing she is the main character of the movie and that everything plot-wise revolves around her maybe you'll have a better time than I did.
I had an easier time tuning her out than you seemed to.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, this is a great example. And the Wolverine leak was a much bigger deal back then, too. The Expendables 3 leak was sort of a "huh. poor old guys got their movie yoinked" and even people who were reporting on it seemed to be doing so with a tenor closer to "Why couldn't a good movie have gotten stolen?"
That's a bigger problem for the movie than the movie actually BEING stolen, I think.
Well, if *cough*someone*cough* hadn't insisted that Megan Fox wasn't the main character of the movie I would've gone in with different expectations.
Actually, if I had known that beforehand, I probably wouldn't have watched the movie at all tbh.
Yeah EX3 doesn't seem to have generated any sort of traction or hype, leak or no leak.
I did try to like the movie, I really did. I'm just hoping that Apes is still at my theater. I recall it being there yesterday. TMNT is a bad movie, simple as that.
you didn't try hard enough.
You failed me Neoxon. I KNOW WHAT SIDE YOURE ON.
Dragonborn
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Perhaps I could just arrive 20 minutes late? lol. Might as well give it a chance.
I truly did, you can't even imagine how many tapes my folks had of the 80's Turtles. From there I found the comics, & the rest was history. I did find a redeeming quality in the Turtles themselves, but that was it.you didn't try hard enough.
You failed me Neoxon. I KNOW WHAT SIDE YOURE ON.
<------------------------ That side!
And is it wrong that I like good movies, & appreciate good actors (as an actor myself, albeit in training)?
The turtles are the best part of the movie, they're genuinely well realized, you might yet enjoy it if you ignore everything else.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Just Megan Fox being in a movie reduces the chances of it being good.
I don't people will look at Age of Exctinction and see it as a stumble though. Still crossed a billion worldwide despite the drop in popularity domestically, still made boatloads of money. That'd be like calling The Hobbit movies stumbles (which people, who are probably insane, did).
X-men is a big story because it outgrossed every other X-men movies by a huuuge margin, and it's most likely going to be the highest grossing superhero movie of the year worldwide. If Fox doesn't fuck up Apocalypse, it's going to be even bigger too.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Sometimes I feel weird for having very little to no nostalgia for stuff like TMNT or Transformers even though I was a kid in the late 80s early 90s.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
but that's probably why I think it's going to be called a stumble: you specifically mentioned the drop in domestic numbers - and the Hobbit movies are also considered stumbles when compared to the Lord of the Rings movies that preceded them. Both those factors are actually part of the reason I think Age of Extinction is going to be seen as an indicator that Bay doing his Bay thing might be starting to wind down a little.
STOP NOT LIKING THE THINGS I LIKE ;-;
no but really a lot of people didn't like it and I understand. I myself don't really find it as junk , I enjoyed it, my fanatical friend who was excited for it enjoyed it.
I'm content in that I guess, I knew it wasn't really this big revolution in movie characters.
I'd have seen guardians if I wasn't broke. Oh well.
The best example of piracy not affecting movie grosses (if the film is something audiences want) is probably the first Taken movie. The film came out in Europe like a year before the US release. I'm pretty sure it was already on DVD (and therefore ripped onto the net in great quality) like 3-4 months before the local release.
Despite that, the film made close to $150M domestic.
Despite that, the film made close to $150M domestic.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I'm guilty as charged; thoroughly enjoyed The Expendables films however the third iteration, which I watched online *shameful*, was terrible. I ain't going to see it at the movies - I'm sorry Lionsgate. I'll buy an Imax ticket for Mockingjay Part 1 though
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