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World of Warcraft: Cataclysm |OT| of Who the hell is Deathwing, anyway?
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You meant to say equally skilled? It'd obviously be more difficult for a whole raid to do ICC heroic in tier 7 than it would in tier 9. Most people say gearscore is meaningless to judge skill. When you consider people getting carried, rotations, boss strategy, movement, a 6kgs can easily preform like a 5kgs.AdventureRacing said:
AdventureRacing
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Trickster said:
Are you just fucking with me? That was exactly my point. If 2 players are equally skilled but one has better gear then that person will perform better in raids.
Trickster said:
Is it really that hard to unserstand? If there are 2 equally skilled players but one has better gear then the other the one with the better gear will perform better in raids.
Edit:looks like i made the mistake here sorry.
Spruchy said:
Your contribution is worthless and you are completely wrong. Congrats!
DeathNote said:
Oops typo, yes i meant skilled :lol .
I completely agree but that doesn't mean that gear is completely irrelevant.
AdventureRacing
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f0rk said:
That is irrelevant to my point. I am not trying to judge a persons skill.
I was replying to the idea that gear is completely irrelevant and that the only thing that matters is skill.
I countered this by saying that if there were 2 equally skilled people but one had better gear that person would perform better.
Or for another example. If you take the best player in the world and make him do ICC with a 5K GS they will only be able to do a certain amount of damage. Now take that same person and give them enough gear to be at 6K GS. Obviously the second time they will do more damage.
I am not saying gear > skill as that is just stupid. However that doesn't mean that gear is totally irrelevant.
Like I said, you would need to be clearing ICC10-25 to be getting 6k gs. My druid, who has a Bloodbathed Vanquisher, barely tips over 6k with all 264 gear.Raide said:
It's still a fact that, regardless of any kind of skill, if your gear doesn't meet the requirements for the raid dungeon gear check, you don't get to go. That's what gear score is for.
KibblesBits
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rhfb said:
On the plus side, the rep gain is not the slow crawl uphill it used to be...
Finally got my order through via Amazon.com. They put release date delivery back up for the game. Realized that getting the in game cinematics is something I couldn't compromise on. If I'm going to be paying full price for the expansion I want all if it. If the digital download version isn't going to have those files (downloading everything via the installer) then it shouldn't be priced the same as the box version.
I do wonder now how big of a patch I'll be facing once I reinstall the expansion from the dvd. Or I wonder if I can do a repair install so it installs all the missing files that aren't included by the launcher.
I do wonder now how big of a patch I'll be facing once I reinstall the expansion from the dvd. Or I wonder if I can do a repair install so it installs all the missing files that aren't included by the launcher.
A month-ish ago people on the official forums started reporting that the WOTLK cinematic weren't being installed.Fularu said:
A blue said:
"As such the Wrath loading cinematic, Wrathgate, etc... will no longer be installed with the game when using the digital streaming download. This may change in the future(no promises, heh) however for right now they are part of the digital download. "
Then they said:
"Wed like to take a moment to clarify how well be delivering World of Warcraft: Cataclysm cinematics to players who purchase the expansion digitally through Battle.net or download the installer from the web in the future.
Prior to the December 7 launch of Cataclysm, all current World of Warcraft players will receive the Cataclysm intro cinematic as part of an upcoming patch. In addition, all other in-game cinematics (including previous ones such as the Wrathgate movie) will be available for download to players who have not previously installed them. These cinematics will be automatically downloaded in the background while you play the game, after other critical game data has been received."
KibblesBits
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DeathNote said:
Exactly, I'm getting exalted status with so many factions at once it seems wrong. Now the feat of strength type factions... I don't know if they've been hastened or if the rep gain reduces with level/rep status... we shall see.
For those wanting to PvP as Horde with some gaffers...
Stormreaver is where I play, and Twig also plays there as well. Rac, Drkirby, and n0b have shown up to play with us too!
Stormreaver is pretty much filled with trolls (myself included) and it's certainly a hostile environment, but I couldn't play anywhere else.
Stormreaver is where I play, and Twig also plays there as well. Rac, Drkirby, and n0b have shown up to play with us too!
Stormreaver is pretty much filled with trolls (myself included) and it's certainly a hostile environment, but I couldn't play anywhere else.
What about the other horde factions though? My HUMAN paladin is almost exalted with STORMWIND, but every other single alliance faction is at 5999/6000 except for the new one, and that is getting close (only like 600 rep off it now). I'm just wondering how to increase my rep with the other factions outside of my starting one as quests don't seem to be increasing their rep any more, again except for the Worgens.Bisnic said:
Everything with 5999/6000 is spillover rep. You were doing quests that awarded Stormwind rep, and a percentage also went everywhere else. To break past 5999/6000 in Exodar for example you could go to the Dranei zones... or you can buy the Exodar tabard, wear it, and earn rep for Exodar while in dungeons. Each major faction has a tabard. If you want the Dranei mount, wear it till exalted hen pick the next tabard of choice.rhfb said:
hmm, really? i never knew that. do you know if you can make this request when renaming an existing character?notworksafe said:
that is really cool, better than the scorpion imo. scorpion is a bit over the top and over designed. lion is a more elegant.notworksafe said:Also I think the Alliance Lion looks cool (the white bit turns into your guild tabard).
Scrow said:
I just did this recently, character with the name didn't exist on the armory so was under lvl 10 or didnt get played for a really long time. First petition they wouldn't free up the name, second time they did. I did have to pay for a name change to swap to it of course.
SuperSonic1305
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My FPS went from solid 60fps pre-patch to constant drops to 30-40 in the trade district. Is this a common problem?
AdventureRacing
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Spruchy said:
Derp.
RPGCrazied
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I'm getting the CE from Amazon! With release day shipping! Of course it won't be here until like 8pm the day of, UPS around here always like to deliver then. Did I hear some people in this thread are from the Whisperwind server? That's my home realm, been playing there since 05.
SuperSonic1305 said:
Stormwind went from mostly low level players in the city to a ton of 80s just sitting in the city, all packed like sardines in the trade district, it's normal. They should have put a flight master/trainer in the dwarven district as well, and should have made Ironforge a more appealing place, to get people to spread out more. Though hopefully people spread out to the dwarven district when cata hits and the flight master won't be as big of a deal.
Angelus Errare
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Word, my mage alt is now level 65. Questing is so quick and fun, I went from level 7 on last Saturday to 65 today (I barely played during the weekday because I didn't have my computer up and running =( )
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Angelus Errare said:
I have no idea how people do this. I have been playing a few hours a day for like two weeks and I've only gotten my rogue from 32 to 47. Are you just running instances, or doing quests?
Angelus Errare
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AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Both, I'm also wearing heirloom gear, this is the fastest I have EVER leveled, I'm slow at it and I hate it.
I don't know what this seems to be a contentious point of interest in here.
The skillcap for playing any class within the upper bounds of its potential is not very high. Either you know how to gear yourself (proper choices for enchants/gems/reforging/balanced stat weights) as well as your rotation, or you don't. Class competency isn't something to be commended, it's something to be expected of each and every raid member. Keeping that in mind, the raw gear from which all your interaction from the game will stem makes a massive difference in performance, not because better gear inherently makes a better player, but because the player that already knows what he's doing will put up higher numbers with gear that has higher numbers on it.
This is, of course, acknowledging that gear isn't everything and that every raid and raid member has to start somewhere - the bottom, as everyone will on Tuesday. The part of raiding that separates good players/guilds from bad ones has been and always will be raid awareness.
The skillcap for playing any class within the upper bounds of its potential is not very high. Either you know how to gear yourself (proper choices for enchants/gems/reforging/balanced stat weights) as well as your rotation, or you don't. Class competency isn't something to be commended, it's something to be expected of each and every raid member. Keeping that in mind, the raw gear from which all your interaction from the game will stem makes a massive difference in performance, not because better gear inherently makes a better player, but because the player that already knows what he's doing will put up higher numbers with gear that has higher numbers on it.
This is, of course, acknowledging that gear isn't everything and that every raid and raid member has to start somewhere - the bottom, as everyone will on Tuesday. The part of raiding that separates good players/guilds from bad ones has been and always will be raid awareness.
Angelus Errare
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JoeMartin said:
Pretty much.
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Out of the 5 80's I have, they have all only gone through a small amount of instances at low level. Finding a good levelling guide helps out massively. There are a few add-ons that help with questing, so just grab one of those.
You pick up quests and try to complete and hand them in, using the most efficient method. Completing one quest, then handing in just sucks. Finish as many as you can in one area, then hand them all in, then go back for the next chunk.
Knowing where and how to level are part of the battle. Sometimes you have to go into braindead mode and just sit there grinding quests and levelling. :lol
Angelus Errare
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On this toon I have barely quested, tbh the only questing I've done are the 1-60 quests inside the instance, other than that.....I've just been instance queuing :lol I was level 58 yesterday (Sat midday) and now I'm sitting at 66 (just dinged) and going to sleep.
MadraptorMan
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I don't suppose you get a free month for buying a digital copy, do you?
Castor Krieg
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MadraptorMan said:
You don't get a free month with any expansion except the main game.
MadraptorMan
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Castor Krieg said:
Whaat...I could swear I got some free time with both BC and WotLK...maybe I am just thinking of the free trials though. :/
SUPARSTARX
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You won't regret it if you can muster up like 2 hours of game play each session.MadraptorMan said:
Castor Krieg
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MadraptorMan said:
Free trials, WoW was doing quite a number of them at various points in time, also for people who quit playing.
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