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Would you buy a psp if a new version was released with ...

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Monk

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... a touch screen?

I know many of you guys have issues with the ds, but i never really see you guys complain about the touch screen. Would you buy it if it had one or would it act as a deterrant?
 
No way.

It's a neat feature on DS, but is not something I'd want standard. It seems that many games use it simply to use it. I mean, did Castlevania REALLY need to use that feature? No, it didn't.
 
Hah! Might as well, get the PDA version of this PSP since I'm already planning on getting the white one.

Oh yeah, this thread won't end well.
 
I don't see what the issue with this thread is.
A touch screen is a touch screen. As we've seen with the DS, not every game has to use it. Surely you concede that it improves the gameplay of some genres of games.

Personally, I would be surprised if the next iteration of PSP didn't have a touch screen. It just seems to me to be the natural evolution of handheld games. In fact, its the only thing that makes it an experience unique from what is offered on consoles.
 
If they released one with a built in hooker.... oh wait.. touch screen.. hmmm.
 
civilstrife said:
I don't see what the issue with this thread is.
A touch screen is a touch screen. As we've seen with the DS, not every game has to use it. Surely you concede that it improves the gameplay of some genres of games.

Personally, I would be surprised if the next iteration of PSP didn't have a touch screen. It just seems to me to be the natural evolution of handheld games. In fact, its the only thing that makes it an experience unique from what is offered on consoles.
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Seriously, could you tone down the Nintendo ass kissing? As we have seen repeatedly on the DS, there are some games that make good use for the touch screen. The large majority either abandon the concept, or impliment it in such a way as to be painful and a large step backwards in game play.

Yes, it's not a bad idea to add the functionality, but hardly would it justify remaking the system, or would it even warrant someone to rebuy a PSP if a touch screen was included. I think DCharlie hit the nail on the head of what would cause anyone to rebuy the PSP. Include a hard drive that can actually effect games in a more logical manner.
 
buh? the lack of a touchscreen is practically the best thing about the psp. i thought you were going to say "with a hard disk." in which case i would've said "yes."
 
A hard disk, so I can save money AND have no need to buy any new video iPod coming out.

Leave touch mini-games to DS. I mean, if the PSP2 released and had one, it'd be fine. As a whole, a touch screen does not alter my purchasing decision.

Besides: what about having just a light pen for games that need it? Although it'd scratch the screen to 7 levels of hell and probably require an inconvieniant cord, a light pen would be awesome for a few games.
 
Easy to see why Sony probably won't end up releasing it with a HDD: People keep forking money over for the half gig and gig duo's.
 
mj1108 said:
Easy to see why Sony probably won't end up releasing it with a HDD: People keep forking money over for the half gig and gig duo's.
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I bet the margins on memory sticks are fuckin killer. Probably more then makes up for the low cost of the PSP its self.
 
Red Mercury said:
Seriously, could you tone down the Nintendo ass kissing? As we have seen repeatedly on the DS, there are some games that make good use for the touch screen. The large majority either abandon the concept, or impliment it in such a way as to be painful and a large step backwards in game play.

Yes, it's not a bad idea to add the functionality, but hardly would it justify remaking the system, or would it even warrant someone to rebuy a PSP if a touch screen was included. I think DCharlie hit the nail on the head of what would cause anyone to rebuy the PSP. Include a hard drive that can actually effect games in a more logical manner.
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Ass kissing? Could you tone down the insults? Anyway, I guess I misinterperted the thread. You guys are arguing about whether or not you'd buy it again. I'm arguing about whether or not it would be a positive addition to the PSP. Clearly it would be. The only problems as far as I can tell would be price and screen quality.
 
Wario64 said:
touch screen? that's a good way for me to sell my PSP and go back to GBA
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See, I just don't understand this sentiment. Why the fuck wouldn't you want a touch screen? Again: Not every game has to use it.

buh? the lack of a touchscreen is practically the best thing about the psp
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Ok, could somebody PLEASE explain to me what would be so terrible about the PSP screen being touch sensitive? The only two I can think of are price and MAYBE screen quality.
 
few ds games make good use of the touchscreen. many ds games are marred by needless touchscreen gimmicks. i don't personally like the touchscreen as a game input device, and i don't think its potential is so overwhelming that it needs to be on every handheld.
 
There is only one way I would. And that is if the touchscreen functionality was only used for internet access/chatting in online games/selection options from the PSP Interface. But in the end probably still would not get it, because putting a stylus by that huge, gorgeous PSP screen would probably make me go crazy caring after its scratches.
 
Why not pine Sony to release a cheap light pen? Same effect, but no revised model. It'd be awesome for the RTS' hitting the PSP, and games that don't support it could possibly get fabricated support via updates.
 
civilstrife said:
Ass kissing? Could you tone down the insults?
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If I came off a little harsh its simply because this threads basic premise coupled with this:

civilstrife said:
[a touch screen] just seems to me to be the natural evolution of handheld games. In fact, its the only thing that makes it an experience unique from what is offered on consoles.
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It came off as nothing but a cheap DS ROX PR thread. The DS is not a bad system, and as I said before in the rare instance the touch screen actually helps gameplay its a nifty feature. There are however numerous other advances I would like to see in handhelds first, before the touch screen becomes a standard.
 
drohne said:
few ds games make good use of the touchscreen. many ds games are marred by needless touchscreen gimmicks. i don't personally like the touchscreen as a game input device, and i don't think its potential is so overwhelming that it needs to be on every handheld.
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Sure there are current a lot of games with the needless use of the touch screen, but thats just a phase, this is something new that devs have to work with. And as such it will be used for no apparent reason that just to have it there. I am positive that the next batch of games will not require you to use it so needlessly. It is like the snes, at first there were a ton of buttons just being used for the sake of using it. But as time went on, devs realised there is no point in making everyone use all the buttons nonsensically.
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
Why not pine Sony to release a cheap light pen? Same effect, but no revised model. It'd be awesome for the RTS' hitting the PSP, and games that don't support it could possibly get fabricated support via updates.
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That would be really nice.
 
Red Mercury said:
It came off as nothing but a cheap DS ROX PR thread. The DS is not a bad system, and as I said before in the rare instance the touch screen actually helps gameplay its a nifty feature. There are however numerous other advances I would like to see in handhelds first, before the touch screen becomes a standard.
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See this is what i dont get, why not mention these other things you want instead of just going touchscreen is gay? I made this thread because i felt that the ds would be obseleter if it wasn't for the touch screen. And I would rather buy a psp instead if it werent for it.
 
Red Mercury said:
If I came off a little harsh its simply because this threads basic premise coupled with this:



It came off as nothing but a cheap DS ROX PR thread. The DS is not a bad system, and as I said before in the rare instance the touch screen actually helps gameplay its a nifty feature. There are however numerous other advances I would like to see in handhelds first, before the touch screen becomes a standard.
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Like a PR thread? Was what I said false? Seriously, what else is there right now that seperates it from a console experience? And moreover, what is there on the horizon? What sort of advances are you talking about? I can imagine some portable apps, but I'm talking pure gameplay here.

Of course, you're right. Most touch screen games have been pretty gimmicky, but I truly believe that Nintendo has pushed developers pretty hard to come up with new things. Of course with all things, new is not neccesarily better. But when developers start calming down with the weird shit (Read: xx/xy) and you come down to the basics of it, when has extra functionality ever been a bad thing? But I'm going off on a tangent.

My main question is, what sorts of other advances are left to be made in handheld games?
 
No, because I have a PSP -- and regret buying it, because there aren't any games that will ever warrent the price.
 
civilstrife said:
Ok, could somebody PLEASE explain to me what would be so terrible about the PSP screen being touch sensitive? The only two I can think of are price and MAYBE screen quality.
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DEFINATELY screen quality. Amirox hit the nail on the head in that regards. A large factor in the PSP is the screen quality. It's crystal clear, and more than impressive. Hell, there was almost instant discussion on this board about how best to protect the screen. Now we are going to jab at it with a stylus? Ugh! Makes me cringe just thinking about it.

Monk said:
Sure there are current a lot of games with the needless use of the touch screen, but thats just a phase, this is something new that devs have to work with.
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Unforunately, while I think we'll stop seeing it being abused so much, I wouldn't hold out hope that we will some kind of basic understanding of not using the touch screen if you don't have to. The whole advertising effort on Nintendo's part is 'touching is good'. With the SNES it wasn't like Nintendo was pushing the fact that they had shoulder buttons. It's a different mentality.
 
Monk said:
See this is what i dont get, why not mention these other things you want instead of just going touchscreen is gay? I made this thread because i felt that the ds would be obseleter if it wasn't for the touch screen. And I would rather buy a psp instead if it werent for it.
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haha , could you imagine if Sony originally announced that PSP would have a touch screen? DS would be dead in the water.
 
Monk said:
See this is what i dont get, why not mention these other things you want instead of just going touchscreen is gay?
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Please tell me you actually read my post instead of jumping to conclusions. Here, let me repost the parts you seemed to have missed.

Red Mercury said:
I think DCharlie hit the nail on the head of what would cause anyone to rebuy the PSP. Include a hard drive that can actually effect games in a more logical manner.
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Also, I don't believe I ever said 'touchscreen is gay'. In fact I actually said the DS was not a bad system.

As for your question civilstrife, I see the main advances in handheld games being to get closer and closer to the consoles. I mean, look at how almost 99% of gamers everywhere came all over themselves when the popular theory that Nintendo's next handheld would be capable of playing GameCube games. Of ocurse some games are better suited to be played on the go, but I think by and large touchscreens are not what is largely needed. Closer emulation of home console hardware and play styles are what is needed. Wireless multiplayer is what is needed. Thats a bigger selling point to the DS than a touchscreen, provided Nintendo and execute it properly.
 
um, i'm pretty sure it's low development costs and nintendo franchises that are keeping ds afloat. rather than its touchscreen.
 
Closer emulation of home console hardware and play styles are what is needed
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I guess this is where we'll have to agree to disagree.

But even then, I'm not sure this qualifies as one of "numerous other advances" that can be made to handheld gaming before a touch screen should become standard.

And with PSP, we're pretty damn close, aren't we? Analog stick, post-dreamcast graphics... in terms of gameplay, what console experiences can't already be emulated? If rockstar is to be believed, and Liberty stories actually has an open environment...

Remember, I'm talking pure gameplay here.
 
drohne said:
um, i'm pretty sure it's low development costs and nintendo franchises that are keeping ds afloat. rather than its touchscreen.
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Once again, I'm talking gameplay wise. I don't care about sales.
 
polg said:
we need owls to reach a new LOW in threads...
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If they bundled it with PDA software that would be compatible with Word, Excel, and Outlook, I would. Touch games don't interest me at all.
 
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