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Wrestlemania XXX Week |OT| We are all legit shook
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My total mark predictions and comments:
Tag Team Champions The Usos vs. Los Matadores vs. The Real Americans vs. Ryback & Curtis Axel
Usos retain
Andre Battle Royale
Surprise entrant Ultimate Warrior wins the match.
The Shield vs. Kane & The New Age Outlaws
The Shield.
Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
Daniel Bryan wins after interference from Stone Cold Steve Austin
Divas match
AJ
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
Wyatt wins. Feud continues.
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
Taker. After the match, lights go out and Sting descends from the rafters and points to Taker with his bat and then points to the Wrestlemania sign and says "31"
WWE World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. Bryan
Ref bump with Bryan down. CM Punk comes out through the crowd and enters the ring. Helps up Bryan to go for the pin but instead gives him the GTS and Punk pulls Batista over Bryan for the 3 count and we have our new Heavyweight Champion. The Authority come out clapping and Punk shakes their hands as they embrace in the middle of the ring standing over a fallen Bryan. NUCLEAR HEAT from the crowd.
Show end.
Tag Team Champions The Usos vs. Los Matadores vs. The Real Americans vs. Ryback & Curtis Axel
Usos retain
Andre Battle Royale
Surprise entrant Ultimate Warrior wins the match.
The Shield vs. Kane & The New Age Outlaws
The Shield.
Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
Daniel Bryan wins after interference from Stone Cold Steve Austin
Divas match
AJ
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
Wyatt wins. Feud continues.
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
Taker. After the match, lights go out and Sting descends from the rafters and points to Taker with his bat and then points to the Wrestlemania sign and says "31"
WWE World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. Bryan
Ref bump with Bryan down. CM Punk comes out through the crowd and enters the ring. Helps up Bryan to go for the pin but instead gives him the GTS and Punk pulls Batista over Bryan for the 3 count and we have our new Heavyweight Champion. The Authority come out clapping and Punk shakes their hands as they embrace in the middle of the ring standing over a fallen Bryan. NUCLEAR HEAT from the crowd.
Show end.
Mr. Luchador
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This weekend gonna be so good. WWE Network is living up to expectations on it's coverage. Really nice.
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Deleted member 47027
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Yeah, yesterday's Wrestlemania 2 hour special was really good and comprehensive. Looking forward to tonight's coverage.
I really enjoyed it too. AJ is on tonight, yay.
Also the live LoW is on tonight.
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This has been obvious since they added the stipulation to his match. I think these peeps saying otherwise are straight trolling, friend.
There was a time WWE was all about swerving, but they stopped doing that over a year ago, now they just stock to their planned stories and the company is better for it.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Some people are gonna be so happy that the strap didn't go to Bryan for like 12 hours and then realize how much of a mistake that was. But nope, people just want that heat for dat short term satisfaction to what would be Finger-poke of doom levels, Lex Express Levels, Starrcade 97 levels, of pure undignified bullshit.
But naw, fuck that wimp and the people, I want my tattooed big bald fantasy to come true. Be careful what you wish for dingus!
But naw, fuck that wimp and the people, I want my tattooed big bald fantasy to come true. Be careful what you wish for dingus!
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It wouldn't be a mistake though! A Bryan title reign would not be anywhere as interesting as this chase.
YOU'RE GONNA EAT SHIT TOO DUNCAN!
BATISTA IS GOING OVER
OVER OVER OVER!
TAG ME IF I LOSE!
Disgusting accusation. I'll see you in wrassle court.
Mr. Luchador
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Dr Duncan Steel
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YOU THINK YOU'RE SO GOOD? YOU THINK YOU'RE SO GOOD?
That chase has a godamn shelf life bro, and I'm absolutely positive no will give two shits about Bryan after Mania when he's in a mid-card fued with Alberto Del Rio as not champion. He will then be cast off into a montage of future HHH burials, just like Queen McMahon prophesied, I say fuck that prophecy and FUCK YOU (audience goes OOOHHH as JR apologizes for the classless remark)
THIS IS YOUR GODAMN FUTURE HUNTER/ORTON/BATISTA
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I agree it has a shelf life, but I think that's better extended by angles not involving the title but keeping it main event sized.
Batista beat Bryan and Orton at Mania, Bryan can jump into a 3 or 6 month feud with Orton or Haitch before coming back around, assuming Batista still has the belt. You can make this chase have its little detours and keep doing it all year until the next Mania.
I strongly, STRONGLY feel that if you give Bryan the title and let him hold it for any significant amount of time right after Mania, you're making a mistake. You don't get a second chance for a significant reign. We're lucky that they robbed him of the belt ASAP last summer, because this would be far less compelling if he had been champion for a significant amount of time previous.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Batista just needs the belt some amount of time before Guardians of the Galaxy opens. Preferally a day before, but probably a month before.
Maybe they can get Batista to paint his body green, too. That'll put butts in seats.
Maybe they can get Batista to paint his body green, too. That'll put butts in seats.
Daniel Bryan will lose. Daniel Bryan will keep chasing. You will keep watching. The beat goes on, yeah, and the beat goes on.
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If anyone's gonna screw Batista out of the title, it'll be Thanos. I don't think Thanos will be at Mania so we're good.
Give Bryan the belt at WM. Let him hold it for a few months, have him drop it to Batista at SummerSlam so Tattista can pimp it during his Guardians pressers. Then have Bryan win the Royal Rumble and have him win it again at WM next year the way they should have done it this year.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Have the hottest, most over babyface in the last 10 years being denied the title for another year?
It's like you think Bryan is gonna wrestle like Cena or some shit like that. You are gonna get some quality ass matches and generally a better product with Bryan as a fighting champion.
I was all about the yes purely for HHH. I've never thought he's win the title.
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But you'll get myfuckingratings.gif. Bryan needs a fantastic heel to spar with if his reign is going to be worth a shit. Remember Punk's year+ and how tepid that was? Gotta have the right competition.
I will say if Punk leaving was a work and he came back tonight to fuck over Bryan, then you could have a white hot feud. I don't see anything that any of the other main event guys can do to keep a Bryan reign interesting.
but you don't stop being over with the title, or without! Either you are over or you're not. He won't elevate the title and the title won't elevate him. It's a convenient excuse for motivation and it's going great. He has no other motivations, though. What then?
Imagine if Austin got screwed out of the title at WM14 and didn't get it until 15 and how pissed and annoyed and tired everyone would be by that point. But add 4 more hours a week of recaps on top of it. Did Austin winning the title hurt him?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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You'd be surprised.... They've gotta start setting up the Thanos vs. Darkseid winner gets balder match for Wrestlemania 32 some time.
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TheApatheticOne
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Predictions (If I know my WWE!)
Tag Team Champions The Usos vs. Los Matadores vs. The Real Americans vs. Ryback & Curtis Axel
Winners - Ryback & Curtis Axel
Andre Battle Royale
Winner - Sheamus
The Shield vs. Kane & The New Age Outlaws
Winner - Kane & The New Age Outlaws
Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
Winner - HHH
Divas match
Winner - My bladder
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
Winner - JOHN CENA
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
Winner - Taker
WWE World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. HHH
Winner - Batista
Now, outside Taker, one may say no fucking way. The crowd would go nuts, it makes no sense, that's terrible booking, why would they even do that?
If you've watched the product in the last 5-10 years, tell me those results are impossible. Maybe not probable..... but.....
Anywho, got the Network, looking forward to Wrestlemania!
Tag Team Champions The Usos vs. Los Matadores vs. The Real Americans vs. Ryback & Curtis Axel
Winners - Ryback & Curtis Axel
Andre Battle Royale
Winner - Sheamus
The Shield vs. Kane & The New Age Outlaws
Winner - Kane & The New Age Outlaws
Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
Winner - HHH
Divas match
Winner - My bladder
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
Winner - JOHN CENA
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
Winner - Taker
WWE World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. HHH
Winner - Batista
Now, outside Taker, one may say no fucking way. The crowd would go nuts, it makes no sense, that's terrible booking, why would they even do that?
If you've watched the product in the last 5-10 years, tell me those results are impossible. Maybe not probable..... but.....
Anywho, got the Network, looking forward to Wrestlemania!
At some point you need to give your most over guy the strap and run with him. Imagine if Austin didn't get the strap when he did and everyone waited a year or two more before he was finally crowned, that would have been stupid.
His motivation would be to keep the belt away from all of the people who screwed him over in the first place, because they're obviously going to try to steal it away from him again right away. You have Batista, HHH, and Orton who'd all want another crack at Bryan. And Bryan's over enough as a super-face that maybe you could even do the long awaited Cena turn.
Alternatively, just make the story be that now everybody and their sister wants a crack at the title because they think it's easier to win the belt from a sub-6-foot 200 pounder versus someone like GassedTista or Orton.
Dr Duncan Steel
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You underestimate Bryan's drawing power. His segments are consistently the higher parts of the show, even when he fueded with Wyatts so don't give me that HHH shit. People just want some fucking new blood with the title, just like how people SHAT on Orton/Cena at Rumble. Did that shit elevate the title Vince?
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Drax the destroyer is going to be champ
DEAL WITH IT
DEAL WITH IT
Macho Madness
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Then people stop caring because they don't believe he'll ever get the title. WWE has a balance to achieve, and it has to swing in Bryan's favor soon before people stop giving a shit. I don't think you can pull the chase out until Summerslam. There's no sense in it when you know he can pull out great championship matches against just about any defender. I know you want Batista to win, but the same can't be said. Batista has flopped as the "big time star" they wanted him to be. He popped one rating, hasn't done anything since that would convince anyone he could move big business. With Bryan as champion, that's still the unknown. They have no idea what it could mean.
I'm not saying Bryan keeps the title for a year, but you could easily stretch out his reign until Summerslam. It's not that hard when he's easy to work with.
Besides, mama and sis Danielson are in town. You think he flew them out to lose?
I don't get this. Is the company going to collapse if he doesn't win the title? There's no competition to them like it was in 1997. They went to Austin because he was the hottest thing going in the company and was becoming its biggest star. It also takes two to tango, thus aligning himself facing Mr. McMahon for the next few years. They need new blood in the main event. H's would be fine losing once, but a feud with Bryan for a year long or whatever isn't something I'm inclined to see. Orton could be that guy but they've wrestled a million times now and they've booked him worse than Swagger as champ.
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I'm legit shook about the Austin analogy.
Now I'm doubting everything. Fuck's sake.
There's still an overwhelming amount of reasons why Bryan wouldn't win it all:
-- He has a previous match with Triple H
-- Gives Triple H the opportunity to beat him in the first match (won't happen)
-- Gives Triple H the opportunity to beat him down and soften him up/injure him to keep him from the belt
-- Batista signed on for a reason, will be promoting a movie
-- WWE hates its fans getting what they want
-- Bryan is little
-- Batista is huge
-- Orton is fine
-- Chasing the title as a face is THE BEST and easiest way to get someone over. It's done though.
I just don't know if the positives of Bryan winning outweigh the possible positives out of him losing.
Now I'm doubting everything. Fuck's sake.
There's still an overwhelming amount of reasons why Bryan wouldn't win it all:
-- He has a previous match with Triple H
-- Gives Triple H the opportunity to beat him in the first match (won't happen)
-- Gives Triple H the opportunity to beat him down and soften him up/injure him to keep him from the belt
-- Batista signed on for a reason, will be promoting a movie
-- WWE hates its fans getting what they want
-- Bryan is little
-- Batista is huge
-- Orton is fine
-- Chasing the title as a face is THE BEST and easiest way to get someone over. It's done though.
I just don't know if the positives of Bryan winning outweigh the possible positives out of him losing.
Macho Madness
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It's like you haven't paid attention to anything over the past 6 months.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Every boneheaded, backwards, shitty, screwjob decision by the WWE that was seemingly designed to piss all over the fans from the last 5 years was all a work set in motion so that, when we got to this point, a lot of us would think Bryan wasn't going over.
It's brilliant, I tell ya.
It's brilliant, I tell ya.
Keeping Bryan in chase mode indefinitely will eventually turn people off just like "Same old crap" tires people of Cena.
We're doing the Network with cable PPV as a backup
We're doing the Network with cable PPV as a backup
Dr Duncan Steel
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Besides quality matches, what's there to gain? It's like watching 24 but Jack Bauer never catches the bad guy. It wears on you, until you stop caring.
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Not if they book it right. Look at Cena/Wyatt. That's booked excellently and has no title involved. You can keep Bryan hot if you have a good rival for him to deal with. I daresay Triple H has been wonderful at being his foil. But who's next? I'm just going with Big Picture problems.
Austin or Bastista interferes on Bryan behalf.or Bryan wins clean.
Then Bryan wins belt.
A)out comes punk to congratulate. Kicks him in the head for Vince. he gets special treatment like rock for main event next year title.
B)Bryan the fighting champion loses the belt to punk at wm. Punk quits (hopefully stays)with the belt.
C)Bryan wins.
They need something for summerslam.that fatal four way sounds good. A triple threat randy,punk,Bryan works too.
Not too sure about hhh still wrestling. If he keeps it up,it won't be as special and he will be a obvious filler. Like hhh vs punk.
Miracle.they start early for Austin vs punk. Or fine, punk has the title and Austin badmouths him enough for a wm fight. I can hope.
Then Bryan wins belt.
A)out comes punk to congratulate. Kicks him in the head for Vince. he gets special treatment like rock for main event next year title.
B)Bryan the fighting champion loses the belt to punk at wm. Punk quits (hopefully stays)with the belt.
C)Bryan wins.
They need something for summerslam.that fatal four way sounds good. A triple threat randy,punk,Bryan works too.
Not too sure about hhh still wrestling. If he keeps it up,it won't be as special and he will be a obvious filler. Like hhh vs punk.
Miracle.they start early for Austin vs punk. Or fine, punk has the title and Austin badmouths him enough for a wm fight. I can hope.
I'd mark out if Austin came out to help Bryan beat HHH - a la how he helped Foley win the belt.
Except all of Bryan's rivalries outside have circulated around someone getting in his way of the title. Eventually you need that payoff.
Except all of Bryan's rivalries outside have circulated around someone getting in his way of the title. Eventually you need that payoff.
Dr Duncan Steel
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"Booking it right" is just like saying "Unless you make it good"
Of course you make it good you fool!
And the fact that we're talking about WWE does not convince me at all.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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It's in the name, bro. The Higher Power has been missed long enough from TV, it's time to come back and take down he who spits in the face of all that is good for business.
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Bryan will need more motivation either way.
Just Wyatt. Cena has had nothing to prove for years.worse is that he never takes time off.so he's so overpushed there is nothing for him to do. Best thing was those three months of him gone. Characters were actually built.
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