Xbox Series X running hot according to Journalists (Zero Noise, but Hot temperature )

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Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:
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And this is the cramped path the air has to take:
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If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.
 
I've heard this from 2 "influencers" (god I hate that word) out of the dozens that got Series X units. Some have even commented on this saying its working as designed. These units are also not production units.

The unit expels hot air out of the top -as it was designed to do. MS made a big deal out of cooling and designing the conaole for function, not aesthetics.

I would have to think after losing $1B over RROD, cooking would be at the forefront of any console design (i.e. the OG X1 was fucking massive LOL).

I think between how quiet a console is, how hot it get, etc....its gonna be a wait and see when u get yours.
 
However, in every scenario of solution for 1 and 2 above the simple truth is that the hotter your exhaust air the less efficient your cooling solution is.
Actually not at all. Exhaust air temperature is simple function of airflow and cooling capacity of cooler. If you would have two coolers. Both calculated in a way that they are able to cool off lets say 100W and one is doing that with 1m3/min of airflow and second one with 2m2/min they both would have same efficiency but difference in intake and exhaust air temperature for first one would be twice as big as for second one.
 
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"zero noise" is just fanboy bullshit.

It have moving parts = 0% chance it emits zero noise.

And someone already said that it is "barely audible" Idle = it is not silent.

So I expect next gen are still audible while gaming, but anybody whom claim any modern console is silent have forgot turn it on. Even switch is easily audible
 
Yeah very fancy. Impressive, even.

Looks like an electric toothbrush advert.

CFD using fluent, often abbreviated as Colours for directors, is often simplified and marked up for promotional and marketing purposes to look better.

I can assure you the engineering version wont look like that at all.

The XSX will be fine, they can adjust the fan speed anyway in an update if its needed, the only critique is the External SSD should be behind a screw away from litlle fingers IMO
 
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He said (translated by VGC): "The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn't make any noise, but damn it's hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It's almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."






I am concerned, we should all be concerned.
 
So a pic from MS showing airflow is BS but debunked FUD from a YouTuber isn't. Ok.
Look at the picture of the stand I posted. The corners is where the air will get pulled in unlike how the promo pic displays the air intake.
Also lol at that tornado at the top.
 
Look at the picture of the stand I posted. The corners is where the air will get pulled in unlike how the promo pic displays the air intake.
Also lol at that tornado at the top.

The picture shows air being drawn in around the stand and out the top?

What's wrong with that?
It's not like they hid the stand and make air "lines" where there are no vents?
 
I don't speak Japanese. But are the reviewers REALLY not allowed to touch it at all??? Or is this some inside joke that I don't get? Because I don't believe that this can be true. Why aren't they allowed to touch it?


 
The picture shows air being drawn in around the stand and out the top?

What's wrong with that?
It's not like they hid the stand and make air "lines" where there are no vents?
Its a pointless promo pic. Im not even sure why the poster replied with it.
 
Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:
3732584-ehhh4r2umaaa9sn.jpg


And this is the cramped path the air has to take:
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If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.

What is your experience with designing hardware and/or cooling systems?
 
Your post makes no sense. Basically because something happened 15 years ago means it can not be repeated? For reference Mclaren recalled latest models 2017-2020 for the possibility of a fire risk in all of them because there was a case that proved it could affect all cars. This is a car company that was founded in 1985, the models in question are $300.000-$1.000.000 . Boeing had decades of success and then they had a dud with 737 MAX. And they have been in the business and thriving since 1916. Just because X1X is well built, doesnt mean the new internals and box shape or fans will work exactly the same. Therefore always a chance that it can go wrong no matter how much RnD or money they throw at it even in 2020.

Also lets be honest here, that 1 bil warranty loss, they did that so that millions of people wouldnt sue them and get hundreds of billions out of MS because they admited that most consoles were knowingly affected. It was them eating a humble pie to stay in the business mand not become the most hated gaming console. They have money, they took one for the team. Not because they are your friendly neighborhood shop but because they didn't want to deal with a way worse outcome that would cripple them for years to come. Also as much cash as they have, if you think that they gave away that 1bil like it was nothing, think again. Tons of people got fired, things got restructured. 1 BILLION is a lot of money for any company.
Congrats!!! You win today's try hard reward. Pointing out the failure rates of the xbox 360 is an effort to troll. If you can't see this then you're either intentionally being dense or lack common sense. The things I pointed out were flaws with Sony during the PS3/360 era, yet are not expectations for the PS5. The entire premise of this thread was refuted by people who have their hands on Series-X's shortly after the claim was made.
 
What nonsense did I spread? That Im not suprised that it gets hot?
What credentials do you have to label my opinion as nonsense?

We both know, that you're clearly trying to act concerned that the cooling solution is ineffecient. Unless you have something meaningful to share about it, you're just another one in a long line of concern trolls. Go enjoy the PS5 teardown thread. I think you'll fit much better there.
 
I believe you need to read up on the definition of 'everything else equal' ;)

You obviously want a heatsink (skipping water cooling for now) that takes up as much heat as fast as possible. The heatsink's capacity to then shed that energy to the air is a function of the temperature delta between the heatsink and the air in direct contact with the heatsink - i.e. the hotter the air the less efficient is your cooling solution. You get a good measure of that by checking the temperature of the exhaust air.

Nothing deranged about that - a little bit of reading comprehension though.

Because, of course, all the air is isothermal is there is no possibility that the intake air is going to be substantially cooler than the exhaust air. Or maybe there is - because that is the whole purpose of a heatsink.

To put it more precisely, the absolute temperature of the exhaust air is largely irrelevant - what's important is the temperature delta between the intake and the exhaust.
 
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Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:
3732584-ehhh4r2umaaa9sn.jpg


And this is the cramped path the air has to take:
main-qimg-509a4550066fee63f03835f537d6b9f9



If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.
If you take a volume of air and funnel it through a smaller confined path then the air has to speed up which will also cool it.

Here's a simple experiment.. Breathe in steadily through your lips with them wide open and then slowly close your lips while still maintaining the same pressure from your lungs. feel how the air feels to move faster and cooler over the lips and tongue as you narrow the gap?

This is the Venturi effect. As the air goes through the heat sink in the XSX its at its most compressed, travelling the fastest, creating the biggest heat differential between itself and the heatsink and thus removing a lot more heat a lot more efficiently than if the air had unrestricted and constant flow from entering to exiting the case.
 
We both know, that you're clearly trying to act concerned that the cooling solution is ineffecient. Unless you have something meaningful to share about it, you're just another one in a long line of concern trolls. Go enjoy the PS5 teardown thread. I think you'll fit much better there.
Im not concerned at all because like you said I dont plan on buying this console (no games). Im just discussing the topic and unlike your brethens I dont even try to spread FUD.
So whats your problem? Im not allow to discuss this topic?
 
Im not concerned at all because like you said I dont plan on buying this console (no games). Im just discussing the topic and unlike your brethens I dont even try to spread FUD.
So whats your problem? Im not allow to discuss this topic?

Discuss all you want, but jumping into a thread, trying to stir up a fight with regards to a topic you have zero knowledge or even care about? Your career at Gaf will be short lived, if you keep that up.
 
If you take a volume of air and funnel it through a smaller confined path then the air has to speed up which will also cool it.

Here's a simple experiment.. Breathe in steadily through your lips with them wide open and then slowly close your lips while still maintaining the same pressure from your lungs. feel how the air feels to move faster and cooler over the lips and tongue as you narrow the gap?

This is the Venturi effect. As the air goes through the heat sink in the XSX its at its most compressed, travelling the fastest, creating the biggest heat differential between itself and the heatsink and thus removing a lot more heat a lot more efficiently than if the air had unrestricted and constant flow from entering to exiting the case.
This only works if the suction is strong enough. You think a single wide fan running slowly brings enough performance for that effect to take place meaningfully?
 
Hoping it'll work, they wouldn't design the thing without proper airflow and stress-testing it. If the top exhaust is getting hot so be it, better than keeping the heat inside.
That said I don't plan getting an XsX, since having Gamepass on a relatively new PC plus a PS5 when it's out.
 
Im not concerned at all because like you said I dont plan on buying this console (no games). Im just discussing the topic and unlike your brethens I dont even try to spread FUD.
So whats your problem? Im not allow to discuss this topic?

You don't even try to spread FUD? You know that people can remember what you've already posted, right?

Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.

Pure 100% fanboy FUD.
 
That promo pic is fucking bullshit.
Loling at they almost completely transparent stand.
Look up positive, negative and static pressure. Each of these works differently according to what kind of case you are using and the density of the components and the location of the heatsinks.

I'd guess that MS's very well paid engineers figured that this setup worked best. Looks to be negative pressure to me but could be static due to the density which would be ideal. Negative would actually work well in such a tightly sealed case with no openings all over like normal PC cases.
 
All of the people who were quoted as the source of this information have already stated that the response to this is either fanboys stirring or that it is not a problem and has been blown out of proportion.

The continuation of this thread is just that though, fanboy FUD. I am just surprised that this thread has been allowed to live so long? Unless new information is shown, this thread has no benefit other than one side provoking the other.
 
hey guys I'm setting up a liquid thermal replacement program for xsx you just gotta send me your console dm for prices
 
This only works if the suction is strong enough. You think a single wide fan running slowly brings enough performance for that effect to take place meaningfully?
Why do you think they designed it with an hour glass type of shape for the air flow with restricted intakes? The whole form factor of the console was designed around the airflow first and foremost. My guess would be that they had the idea of how they wanted to utilise this effect and then built the entire system around it. Bear in mind that this is not a venturi to create a vacuum powerful enough for the purpose of pulling a second fluid into the main stream but merely to create the biggest heat differential and the fastest airflow they could at the point inside the case where the most heat is being produced.
 
The fact that it's getting so much heat out is a good thing.
Exactly. In the PC world, we start worrying when the machine actually has no hot air coming out of it.

Also, it should be stressed that these new consoles (PS5 and XSX) should have enough "breathing room" around them for the hot air to dissipate. Otherwise both risk overheating.
 
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Considering how many people claim to own high end gaming PC's on this forum as a reason not to buy an Xbox, I'm surprised at the amount of "concern" for this...

Didn't realize so many people had an abundance of pots & LN2 stashed in their basement. I mean, that's the only explanation.

In all seriousness, it's mind blowing to me that some people don't understand how heat dissipation works.

This thread should be locked out of stupidity alone.
 

You can Google translate it, they could only hover over the exhaust for a temperature check with their hand nor take pictures of the back or bottom of the unit as they'd have to physically move it.
 
I am now remembering my time with the 360. It would heat up a lot, so much that I think most people won't believe me if I told them I was sweating in Fall/Autumn from the thing.

At the same time, probably not every 360 ran like that so hopefully this new situation is not a common occurrence either.

I wish console makers would prioritize airflow over sleek looks. People laugh at the phat PS3 and VCR Xbox One but at least the system was cool.
 
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Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:
3732584-ehhh4r2umaaa9sn.jpg


And this is the cramped path the air has to take:
main-qimg-509a4550066fee63f03835f537d6b9f9



If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.
It has intake vents on the rear as well.
 
I believe you need to read up on the definition of 'everything else equal' ;)

You obviously want a heatsink (skipping water cooling for now) that takes up as much heat as fast as possible. The heatsink's capacity to then shed that energy to the air is a function of the temperature delta between the heatsink and the air in direct contact with the heatsink - i.e. the hotter the air the less efficient is your cooling solution. You get a good measure of that by checking the temperature of the exhaust air.

Nothing deranged about that - a little bit of reading comprehension though.
The smugness in your posts doesn't cover up the fact that you're full of shit. Do you own a modern gaming computer? My guess is no. Do you think large heatsinks alone solve heating issues in PCs even with a much larger form factor? If you do you are clueless.

These consoles are the power equivalent to a modern gaming PC and everything in a modern gaming PC generates a significant amount of heat. Even my 570 motherboard has fans on it because the heatsinks aren't enough anymore.

Heat sinks may dissipate heat, but they don't eliminate it, not by a long shot. And that heat still ends up in your case, heating up all of your other components, hence the need for exhaust fans

What is usually on top of your major heat sinks in PCs? Fans. Have you seen the size of air cooled fans on CPU heatsinks for modern gaming computer? They are enormous. Look up GPUs that use heatsinks only and let me know how powerful they are... Here's a hint, they aren't.

Here is the reality.. These consoles are going to be hot. Both of them. You guys think that Sony put plastic covers on the outside of the PS5 purely for asthetics? Lol. My guess is they are also a thermal buffer between the actual case and your hands. Is the PS5 cool to the touch on the sides.. probably... you have a layer of plastic and air between the case and your hands, whereas the X doesn't.
 
Why isnt this concern troll thread still not locked? Sad seeing this crap everywhere...
I guess my tv, pc etc all are overheating because of hot air....

Smh
 
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