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[Clear]

If you take a volume of air and funnel it through a smaller confined path then the air has to speed up which will also cool it.

Here's a simple experiment.. Breathe in steadily through your lips with them wide open and then slowly close your lips while still maintaining the same pressure from your lungs. feel how the air feels to move faster and cooler over the lips and tongue as you narrow the gap?

This is the Venturi effect. As the air goes through the heat sink in the XSX its at its most compressed, travelling the fastest, creating the biggest heat differential between itself and the heatsink and thus removing a lot more heat a lot more efficiently than if the air had unrestricted and constant flow from entering to exiting the case.

If somebody was foolish enough to stand the Series X upright on carpet with a deep pile, its going to significantly compromise its ability to draw in air. Not exactly a design flaw, much more human error, but you know someone, somewhere is going to make this mistake eventually. And when they do, they most likely aren't going to take personal responsibility for it!

 

[Redlight]

If somebody was foolish enough to stand the Series X upright on carpet with a deep pile, its going to significantly compromise its ability to draw in air. Not exactly a design flaw, much more human error, but you know someone, somewhere is going to make this mistake eventually. And when they do, they most likely aren't going to take personal responsibility for it!

Someone is going to put a PS5 in a closed glass cabinet lined with velvet with no clearance on any side and no airflow. Should I make a thread?

 

[anaphase]

Lol at this entire thread.

I'm typing this from my mac which is running at 109˚ F currently.

RROD Apple products? Can someone make a thread for me? I'm still a Neo member

 

[CeeJay]

If somebody was foolish enough to stand the Series X upright on carpet with a deep pile, its going to significantly compromise its ability to draw in air. Not exactly a design flaw, much more human error, but you know someone, somewhere is going to make this mistake eventually. And when they do, they most likely aren't going to take personal responsibility for it!

haha Yeah there are bound to be loads of people who do that with it.

Have we seen a teardown of it yet? I know we've seen DF putting the thing together but taking it apart to clean out the dust can be an entirely different story with these modern devices.

 

[CeeJay]

Someone is going to put a PS5 in a closed glass cabinet lined with velvet with no clearance on any side and no airflow. Should I make a thread?

no need to be so defensive, i don't think he was console warriorriorring

Edit: I think a bigger issue with the SX placement is going to be people who have a shelf that it "just" fits into with no clearance at the top to vent out. It's almost like it could have done with 4 corner horns to prevent idiots from cooking it.

 

[Izumar]

See how this was pushed so hard yesterday leading up to the ps5 breakdown today? There was even console warring of this on cheap ass gamer, which I had never seen before.

 

[Redlight]

no need to be so defensive, i don't think he was console warriorriorring

Maybe, but in this thread? I hope you'll forgive my suspicious nature.

 

[Clear]

Someone is going to put a PS5 in a closed glass cabinet lined with velvet with no clearance on any side and no airflow. Should I make a thread?

LOL

Calm down, no need to be so defensive. Guess I hit a nerve by pointing out something a child might do.

Your example is stupidly obtuse btw. For a start off, a glass cabinet lined with velvet? Then one that fits so snugly with the PS5's oddly contoured shape? A shape that seems to me designed specifically to to ensure clearance from both external surfaces and the main chassis itself.

Point is, the utilitarian simplicity of the Series X, may be aesthetically pleasing but people are dumb. The PS5's wacky shape may not be to your liking but I can see the design logic behind it.

 

[Drewpee]

I'm pretty happy with the prospect of the Series X in the longer term. The last Major Nelson podcast had them saying that the staff has had these things in their homes for the better part of a year. I would imagine that if these prototypes would have big problems, they would fix it before they went into production.

Get out of here with your logic, can't you see we are in the middle of an overreaction? Noone wants to deal with your BS today Dave.

 

[Shi11]

PlayStation fans trying to replenish their copium reserves. Boring.

 

[Redlight]

LOL

Calm down, no need to be so defensive. Guess I hit a nerve by pointing out something a child might do.

Your example is stupidly obtuse btw. For a start off, a glass cabinet lined with velvet? Then one that fits so snugly with the PS5's oddly contoured shape? A shape designed specifically to to ensure clearance from both external surfaces and the main chassis itself.

So, you're claiming that I'm being too defensive and then list the reasons why that could never, ever happen to the gloriously designed PS5?

Marvellous.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:

And this is the cramped path the air has to take:

If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.

The left side is the huge vapor chamber. It's not cramped.

 

[Clear]

So, you're claiming that I'm being too defensive and then list the reasons why that could never, ever happen to the gloriously designed PS5?

Marvellous.

Updated my post to clarify my position. Both approaches have their own merits as I pointed out.

You resorted to an outlandish example tantamount to an engineered worst-case scenario, I just described a simple error a kid would make without thinking. Which scenario is honestly more probable?

 

[TeKtheSanE]

Can we just all agree only children and the non-experienced do things like put modern consoles or even their gaming PCs on carpet or inside a tight space with little to no airflow?

I don't think either the XsX or the PS5 will enjoy being on the carpet, but I can agree I see more issues if someone puts the XsX vertically standing on the carpet, less so if it is sideways.

 

[Alebrije]

Series X hight temperature is part of thier 4D strategy...they designed this way the console because will be needed to play Fallout 5 properly so you can cook Deathclaw steaks and other stuff.

Secret sauce strikes again.

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

I think both of these consoles have the potential to make a small room uncomfortable in the summer, lol.

 

[Aggressive Carrot]

If heat were a major issue Microsoft wouldn't have sent units out to be tested. I'm sure they would have caught the problems early.

 

[Eternal21]

You'd think they learned their lesson after RROD debacle.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

Not enough liquid metal.

 

[SportsFan581]

I'm so glad I took the time to read this thread. Amazing from an entertainment perspective. Especially from PS fans that are very concerned about the well being of the XSX, given that they all build high-end PCs as well it's surprising that they would have this reaction.

 

[Self]

Especially from PS fans that are very concerned about the well being of the XSX

Believe me, Xbox fans are very concerned about the well beeing of PS stuff as well.

 

[sixamp]

Reading some of these comments has me wondering wtf is wrong with people. The xsx expelled heat through the top, all the system heat will flow through the top so yes it's going to be hot the ps5 will be hot around the sides and back. I don't understand wtf anyone is talking about. Saying something is hot is much different than saying it runs hot. Running hot would mean they know for a fact that the chips are running hot like 90-140c or whatever.

Saying yes the Xbox is quiet but man there's alot of heat coming out of it is like saying wow the ocean is really wet.

My only issue with the Xbox's cooling is that the air is pulled from the bottom and lower back. The stand never seemed high enough for my liking. I would have preferred a row or 2 of vents going around or bigger feet at the bottom to lift the system a little high for better air pull

 

[Xdrive05]

Can't they just firmware it to run cooler with a little more noise?

 

[BattleScar]

This is meaningless.
The heat generated by the SoC has to go somewhere. That somewhere is the exhaust air.

Fucking christ.

 

[Black_Stride]

Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:

And this is the cramped path the air has to take:

If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.

The entire left side of that image is a heatsink.....would you want it to be smaller?
The Series X also has intakes on the back.
But we can just ignore them because that doesnt fit the narrative

 

[ultrazilla]

Series X hight temperature is part of thier 4D strategy...they designed this way the console because will be needed to play Fallout 5 properly so you can cook Deathclaw steaks and other stuff.

Secret sauce strikes again.

Was that your cat that decided to lay on top?

 

[RokkanStoned]

Zero noise? That is pretty good. Don't care about it getting hot as long as it doesn't ruin the console or throttles performance.

 

[nyr88nyg]

Series X hight temperature is part of thier 4D strategy...they designed this way the console because will be needed to play Fallout 5 properly so you can cook Deathclaw steaks and other stuff.

Secret sauce strikes again.

You mean if I get a series X I no longer need my craftsman grill?

Sold.

 

[Spokker]

Series X hight temperature is part of thier 4D strategy...they designed this way the console because will be needed to play Fallout 5 properly so you can cook Deathclaw steaks and other stuff.

Secret sauce strikes again.

The Xbox Series X features 100% made in America cast i-ron grilling grates. It's revolutionizing the way people grill. Chicken, steak, has never tasted so good! No more dry meat!

 

[Hustler]

This YT guy, it's a new hot take every day. Then a day or two later here comes a new video "THAT THING I WAS SCREAMING ABOUT, Yeah that's not true and here's why".

The same thing was said about PS5 consoles which is not true at all.

 

[frogger]

 

[Manstructiclops]

Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:

And this is the cramped path the air has to take:

If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.

Static pressure. No air/dust is being pushed in via fan, and any dust accumulation will get blasted out of the top.

 

[NickFire]

I think this is much to do about nothing. Seems obvious to me that it will generate a lot of heat, and I have to believe MS won't allow a repeat from the 360 era.

 

[PSNplanetcolony]

The good: Sounds like Series X will be whisper quiet.

The bad: Sounds like components will be running a bit too hot. Over extended period of time, this can lead to component failures.

If im an Xbox guy, I wouldn't be too worried yet. They could always update firmware and have fan work just a little faster to ensure heat doesn't become an issue for life of their consoles.

I will say looking at the innards of Series X, the airflow doesn't look good, whereas Sony made cooling and airflow a big priority for PS5.

 

[Punished Miku]

I think this is much to do about nothing. Seems obvious to me that it will generate a lot of heat, and I have to believe MS won't allow a repeat from the 360 era.

And even if they did, I will just put in one good word here since they earned it.

Despite their mistake, they paid for all the replacements back then. I had to send in two 360s since I got it at launch. They replaced both for free and paid shipping. It sucked, but they paid for it. Hopefully they learned their lesson.

 

[SoraNoKuni]

Getting some ptsd from these news, they still use the same xclamps as well.

Hopefully it won't be a problem.

 

[Boneyblaff]

This just reminds me of when the Navi GPU's launched and everyone was freaking out about the operating temps with them, with AMD later staring the high temps were within spec. The only issue here is that there seem to be people who don't understand how hardware works making these assumptions.

 

[MoreJRPG]

Im actually not suprised that the Series X is running hot.

This is the main air intake:

And this is the cramped path the air has to take:

If people think this thing already runs hot, just wait till some dust settles in.

Have you ever built a PC? The holes are more than adequate for cooling. The massive fan at the top does all the pulling of the hot air from inside the console. It's a complete non-issue. More holes doesn't mean the system is any cooler, it's all about the airflow generated by the fan(s) and the positive/negative pressure you're building due to that.

In terms of dust, unless you're living in a wood chipper I really don't see how that would ever be an issue. PCs have exhausts at the top and it's never been a problem. I have a launch PS4 that I'm certain on the inside is caked and it still runs fine.

Quite the concern though and a lot of speculation lacking any hard evidence. I wonder why?

 

[N0S]

 

[aries_71]

Wasn't this debunked in the first 30 seconds?

 

[tronied]

Yes, people just like to keep it going to bait. Mods are doing a bang up job

 

[MCplayer]

Would you fit a radiator of a truck to your car, to run it a few degree cooler ? It is a bigger engineering design challenge to fit more in smaller space and make it work reliably.

I love you for using the necromanse pic, Love Raised by wolves <3

 

[Ovech-King]

The first time I saw the internal breakdown of their box, I immediately said to myself look like this crammed pile of electronic will overheat. Specially with the restricted air intake at the bottom due to the base . I hope for them they reaaalllyy tested their thermals correctly and not just don't give a fuck because they have deep pockets and money to burn as long as they sell you the console they don't care about reliability that much perhaps..

 

[Hezekiah]

Like they wouldn't send out hundreds millions of consoles destined for RROD.

 

[The Hamburglar]

Nelly would like a word phil

 

[THE DUCK]

Considering the design and the massive fan, and lack of any real reports of heat issues, this thread should really be closed, it's nothing more than clickbait.

 

[MrFunSocks]

How exactly is this topic still not closed? It was debunked literally by the person that the OPs video used as a source.

Like they wouldn't send out hundreds millions of consoles destined for RROD.

The fact that you don't understand the difference between the 2 situations speaks volumes.

 

[Compsiox]

I don't think Microsoft would have gone this route if all the testing they did showed that the console gets throttled from heat.

I really doubt this will be anything worth worrying about.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Like they wouldn't send out hundreds millions of consoles destined for RROD.

And PSN accounts will be hacked any day now. Obviously these companies learn from their mistakes. I seriously doubt an RRoD will happen again.

 

[hard_boiled]

So? You're not supposed to obstruct the systems venting capabilities anyway... Its not as though you will be sitting on it lol. It is supposed to emit heat.