Chukhopops
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I doubt anyone is going to switch platforms and pay a sub just to avoid buying one game that they buy every year anyway, especially when marketing rights remain on the Sony side this year.
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XboxEra - Every First Party Xbox Game Will Launch Day One on Game Pass - Sarah Bond
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Little Chicken
Banned
I guess this means Nadella and the bean counters are confident that Game Pass is doing well enough to sustain itself, contrary to the handwringers on neogaf.
Klayzer
Member
Audiophile
Member
COD on Game Pass makes little sense unless you already have Xbox and Game Pass. Most people playing COD (Multiplayer) will be doing so for longer than 4mths which then outweighs the cost of buying it outright (and if it's physical you can sell it when you're done too). Warzone is already free and I don't think Single Player has been enough of a draw since 2019. At best it's a small value add for the plan, but I doubt it'd move the needle enough. If you're on PC or PS5 there's basically no reason to move over to Xbox for COD.
The reason to move over remains big, high quality exclusive titles. And when it comes to reasons to sub to GP, I think they're all there already, it's just not enough of a draw to make it truly sustainable in the long term.
Game Pass should have been a smaller, modular add-on to Xbox Live from which you can play XB/X360/X1 titles + select new titles kinda like PS Plus. All they've done is devalued their games by programming the average Xbox player to expect everything on the cheap. Now there's no going back without backlash, they're just backing into a corner constantly..
I think Xbox needs a completely fresh start with a new team, they need to rip the band aid off and model everything on how they can move forward in an optimal way, rather than by trying to make it work with their hands tied behind their back. They're just gonna mosey on in a state of mediocrity otherwise.
The reason to move over remains big, high quality exclusive titles. And when it comes to reasons to sub to GP, I think they're all there already, it's just not enough of a draw to make it truly sustainable in the long term.
Game Pass should have been a smaller, modular add-on to Xbox Live from which you can play XB/X360/X1 titles + select new titles kinda like PS Plus. All they've done is devalued their games by programming the average Xbox player to expect everything on the cheap. Now there's no going back without backlash, they're just backing into a corner constantly..
I think Xbox needs a completely fresh start with a new team, they need to rip the band aid off and model everything on how they can move forward in an optimal way, rather than by trying to make it work with their hands tied behind their back. They're just gonna mosey on in a state of mediocrity otherwise.
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FunkMiller
Member
Yes, it's clearly a success, what with all the lay offs and studio closures at Xbox.
Games of Today
Member
Day 1 on Gamepass alongside Day 1 on PS5 for actual revenue.
Dr. Claus
Banned
You are absolutely delusional. GamePass has stagnated and sees no growth. They are shutting down companies left and right as Indies also leave the service because they can’t earn much revenue/profit at all. Funding is drying up and you still want to think this is sustainable?
Nadella and the bean counters continue to show they have zero knowledge in the industry and their continued and ever increasing failures have long since been a joke.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sarah Bond Confirms Every First Party Game Will Still Launch on Game Pass - Including Call of Duty
In a new interview with Bloomberg, Sarah Bond has confirmed that every first party game, including Call of Duty, will launch on Game Pass.
insider-gaming.com
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Sarah Bond Confirms Every First Party Game Will Still Launch on Game Pass - Including Call of Duty
In a new interview with Bloomberg, Sarah Bond has confirmed that every first party game, including Call of Duty, will launch on Game Pass.
Across the whole slate could have so many different meanings
Gambit2483
Member
Exactly.
For the President of Xbox it feels like she doesn't know shit about what's actually going on.
digdug2
Member
This is so incredibly fucking stupid. How is one of the richest companies on Earth filled with morons? They have shuttered how many great studios recently because their games aren't making revenue, and now they're doubling down? Don't make 1st party games available on GP day one. Simple.
Your model sucks, and so does your logic, MS. "We have 1 person in the GP Ultimate ecosystem at $17 per month each and charge nothing extra for each game and drop it on GP day one."
First and foremost, you should release some fucking worthwhile games. Then when you have some decent games in the pipeline, you charge $56 for agame with a 20% GP subscriber discount and then put it on GP 2-3 months later while the game is still relatively fresh. Now you're still making money on GP subscriptions and you're selling copies of your game. You will probably have customers buying 3-4 games per year while still keeping GamePass for the other games that they want to play but don't want to plunk down extra $$ for on day one.
Your model sucks, and so does your logic, MS. "We have 1 person in the GP Ultimate ecosystem at $17 per month each and charge nothing extra for each game and drop it on GP day one."
First and foremost, you should release some fucking worthwhile games. Then when you have some decent games in the pipeline, you charge $56 for agame with a 20% GP subscriber discount and then put it on GP 2-3 months later while the game is still relatively fresh. Now you're still making money on GP subscriptions and you're selling copies of your game. You will probably have customers buying 3-4 games per year while still keeping GamePass for the other games that they want to play but don't want to plunk down extra $$ for on day one.
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00Magnum Gaming
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You guys are the worst
THE DUCK
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Interesting if they still do. Explore a scenario where gamepass alone isn't enough, perhaps the plan is to still release xbox hardware with gamepass as the hook, while going multiplatform at the same time.
They could even do all new games on gamepass, 6 month exclusive, and then out on other platforms and that might entice some people to buy xboxes (not at the same rate of course, but they might not care as much...... ) along with increasing software sales overall.
They could even do all new games on gamepass, 6 month exclusive, and then out on other platforms and that might entice some people to buy xboxes (not at the same rate of course, but they might not care as much...... ) along with increasing software sales overall.
Sneakysnake
Banned
"More importantly you get EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE GAMES WE BUILD DAY ONE"
COD is a game they build + All the games they build will be on gamepass day one = COD will be on gamepass day one
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The only way CoD doesn't launch on game pass day 1 this year is if Sony still has the marketing agreements by the time the 2024 entry rolls out.
Which it's possible they still do.
www.gamespot.com
Which it's possible they still do.
PlayStation's Call Of Duty Deal With Activision Ends In 2024, Microsoft President Says
"Everybody who has looked at this would say it's a better deal for Sony than the one they have right now with Activision Blizzard."
www.gamespot.com
TheGodfather07
Member
So the opposite is true. Microsoft never tell the truth. To even work for them, you need to be trained in the art of lying whilst getting people to believe your speaking the truth. Just look at their previous statements. All bullshit.
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Tfault
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feynoob
Banned
cod rain money. ms need that rain.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Exactly! COD will not be on GP day one. It'll be literally the dumbest Xbox move of all times!
THE DUCK
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Seems like it will, ms was just trying to figure out how to monetize the addition as much as possible.
My guess:
Xbox Game Pass Core (Xbox Consoles) - $9.99/month. - stays the same
No newer games like now. Adds some older cod titles.
Xbox Game Pass (Xbox Consoles) - $10.99/month. - goes up to $12.99
Includes all new games including activision
Xbox Game Pass PC (PC Platforms) - $9.99/month. - goes up to $11.99
Includes all new games including activision
Xbox Game Pass Ultimate (Xbox Consoles and PC Platforms) - $16.99/month.
Includes all new games, including activision
Price stays the same now, goes up a few months later, quietly.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Do you think GP Ultimate goes to $20 a month?